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Discerning Marriage

Theology of the Body Institute

Discerning Marriage is a weekly podcast hosted by Elizabeth Busby, MTS, MS, LMFT. Regardless of your state in life, you can begin preparing for marriage right now. Whether you are single, dating, seriously dating, engaged, on a break, or grieving a breakup, you can make use of this time for fruitful growth toward becoming a healthy and holy spouse. Intentional discernment of marriage starts today, even if you haven't given or received an engagement ring.

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  • #1
    Tuesday · 1 hr 6 min

    Raising Kids Who Choose Faith + Let Them Rebel at Home + Stop Parenting From Fear

    How do you raise children who don’t just inherit your faith, but actually choose it for themselves? Angèle and André Regnier share what they learned raising five children while building a Catholic movement for university students. We talk about why parents should model prayer instead of simply demanding it, what to do when your children don’t want to pray, why the people your kids admire can shape them more than you realize, and how to intentionally create that influence. We also explore respecting teenagers, giving children real freedom, teaching them to make decisions, responding to suffering, and why parents should stop parenting from fear of the world.Angèle and André's book: Ignite Hope Discerning Marriage Retreat Info 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • August 11 · 1 hr

    Don’t Pray at the Bedroom Door + Stop Dating for a Title + Forgiveness Isn’t Forgetting

    What can Hamilton teach us about dating, chastity, suffering, forgiveness, and marriage? Fr. Joseph-Anthony Kress joins Elizabeth Busby to explore why discernment is about faithfully taking the next step, not having your entire future figured out. They discuss why marriage is not a finish line, how couples can avoid waiting until temptation becomes overwhelming, and why we should not be scandalized by our own humanity. Drawing from pivotal moments in Hamilton, they also examine how suffering can draw us closer to Christ, why forgiveness does not mean forgetting, and what it means to choose a person, not simply the role they can play in your life. https://godsplaining.org/ Dominican Rosary Pilgrimage: https://rosarypilgrimage.org/join-us-for-the-2026-novena-dominican-rosary-pilgrimage/ Ignite Hope Discerning Marriage Retreat Info 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • July 28 · 1 hr 7 min

    Unfaithfulness to Spouse & Annulment + Dating Women Felt Safer + This Moment Changed Everything

    Kim Zember shares the extraordinary story of searching for love everywhere she could find it—same-sex relationships, success, missions, marriage, and even becoming someone she no longer recognized. She opens up about cheating on her husband, living with deep shame, and why none of it brought the peace she longed for. In this conversation with Elizabeth Busby, they explore unwanted singleness, same-sex attraction, healing, the difference between knowing about God and truly encountering Him, why so many people see God as a judge instead of a Father, and how discovering Christ transformed every desire without erasing the struggle.Restless Heart by Kim ZemberKim Zember’s IGKim’s website Ignite Hope Discerning Marriage Retreat Info 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • July 14 · 1 hr 3 min

    When You Envy Those Getting Married + Protomartyr for Marriage + Desert of Singleness as Preparation

    What does it actually mean to live for truth when it costs you something? In this conversation, we explore one of the most misunderstood figures in Scripture: John the Baptist. From his courage to confront powerful people to his willingness to die for the sanctity of marriage, his life challenges our understanding of discipleship, masculinity, and holiness. Along the way, we also hear Fr. Sean’s personal story, discuss discerning God's will, overcoming fear, and discovering joy through prayer. Whether you're wrestling with faith, searching for purpose, or wanting to understand why truth matters, this conversation will leave you thinking differently.Get Fr. Sean's "Prophet of Fire" here Ignite Hope Discerning Marriage Retreat Info 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • June 30 · 1 hr 3 min

    Why Looks Matter More Than You Think + Why You're Still Single + Marriage Advice Ruining Dating

    What keeps good people single? In this candid conversation, Catholic matchmaker Madigan shares the hard truths she's learned from working with thousands of singles. We discuss unrealistic expectations, dating app culture, ghosting, attraction, self-improvement, and why so many people struggle to find a spouse despite deeply desiring marriage. Madigan also shares her own unexpected love story, practical advice for discerning marriage, and her framework for knowing when you're choosing wisely versus settling. Whether you're single, dating, or helping someone discern their vocation, this episode offers hope, challenge, and a fresh perspective on modern Catholic dating. commitmentism.com/ 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • June 16 · 1 hr 8 min

    Why Good Catholics Stay Single + The “I Do” Test + How to Keep Your Kids In the Faith As Adults

    What does it actually take to build a marriage that lasts?In this episode, Dr. Gregory Popcak shares the surprising story of proposing after just two months of dating, how he and his wife Lisa built a 37-year marriage, and why prayer became the foundation of everything they created together. We discuss why so many faithful Catholics struggle to find someone to marry, the difference between piety and genuine devotion, how to identify humility while dating, and the single best predictor of future marital success.We also dive into parenting, why treating children like projects backfires, what causes adult children to drift away from their parents, and the habits shared by families who successfully pass on the faith. This conversation is packed with practical wisdom for discerning marriage, building strong relationships, and creating a home where faith truly comes alive. Dr. Gregory Popcak's Website Ignite Hope Discerning Marriage Retreat Info Spotify 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • June 2 · 30 min

    Should You Pursue Him First? + Men Who Aren’t Ready to Date + The Problem With “Trust Your Feelings”

    What do you do when you keep making eye contact with someone at Mass… but he never talks to you? Should you wait for someone who “isn’t ready yet”? Can you discern marriage and religious life at the same time? And how do you know if the peace you feel in a relationship is actually from God — or just emotions? In this Q&A episode, we dive into modern Catholic dating, discernment, masculinity, red flags, vocation anxiety, spiritual clarity, pornography, confession, desire, and the very real fear of making the wrong life decision. This conversation is honest, practical, deeply personal, and full of the kind of advice most people are too afraid to say out loud. Ignite Hope Discerning Marriage Retreat Info Fr. Ambrose Criste episode link 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠

  • May 19 · 47 min

    Falling in Love Every 10 Days + "Spicy" Truth on Divorce + Theology of Heartbreak X Fr. Gregory Pine

    In this powerful episode, Father Gregory Pine joins Elizabeth Busby to tackle the "spicy" reality of divorce and the permanence of marriage. They navigate the painful process of discerning a breakup, offering a "home run" of practical advice for anyone currently in the trenches of heartbreak. By exploring Thomistic wisdom and the necessity of "training the tongue," Fr. Gregory reveals how to stop catastrophizing and start "recollecting" your soul during times of loss. Ultimately, this conversation calls you higher—challenging you to look beyond your current relational status and anchor yourself in your "uppercase V vocation": partaking in the eternal bliss of the Trinity. Ignite Hope Discerning Marriage Retreat Info 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • May 8 · 27 min

    Answering "Devil's Advocate" Questions About French Kissing Before Marriage

    In this unscripted “devil’s advocate” Q&A, we respond to real questions challenging Catholic perspectives on dating and physical intimacy—especially kissing during engagement. Is it helping discernment or sabotaging it? Drawing from St. John Paul II and real-world counseling experience, this conversation unpacks the stages of dating, the purpose of engagement, and the difference between emotional bonding and intentional formation. If you’ve ever wondered how far is too far—or how to date with clarity, freedom, and purpose—this episode offers a vision that calls you higher, not just further. Ignite Hope Discerning Marriage Retreat Info 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • April 24 · 43 min

    Red Flags vs Spiritual Warfare + Not Discerning Marriage + Lower Your Standards (Not Like You Think)

    What if the way you’ve been “discerning marriage” is actually keeping you stuck?In this episode, Fr. Ambrose Criste breaks open a radically freeing vision of vocation, relationships, and spiritual warfare. We unpack how to tell the difference between real red flags and emotional or spiritual attacks, why fear and overthinking can paralyze your discernment, and the surprising truth that you may not need to “discern marriage” at all.We also dive into tough, practical questions—pornography in relationships, what you can (and can’t) compromise on, why “lowering your standards” might actually mean reordering them, and how to move forward with clarity and peace instead of anxiety.If you’ve ever felt stuck, afraid of making the wrong choice, or unsure how to move forward in love, this conversation will challenge you, ground you, and call you higher. 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • April 7 · 27 min

    Depression & Openness to Life + When Marriage Doesn’t Come + Sexual Struggles and Purpose | Q&A

    This Q&A episode with Elizabeth dives into some of the most honest and difficult questions around love, marriage, and personal struggle. From navigating depression while remaining open to life, to the deep ache of unwanted singleness, to breaking free from pornography and building a life of virtue—this conversation doesn’t shy away from the real battles.We explore how to approach dating with courage, how to grow during seasons of waiting, what it actually means to live out God’s design for marriage and intimacy, and how to make wise, intentional decisions about work, family, and relationships.If you’ve ever felt stuck, discouraged, or unsure how your desires fit into God’s plan—this episode is an invitation to rise higher, think deeper, and walk forward with purpose.

  • March 27 · 29 min

    When Love Ends Without Closure + Learning to Suffer Well in Dating + Rethinking Physical Boundaries in Dating | Q&A

    In this Q&A episode of Discerning Marriage, Elizabeth answers questions about heartbreak, waiting for marriage, and dating with intention. What do you do when someone you love moves on without giving closure? How do you keep hope when waiting for marriage feels harder with time? And how should couples approach physical affection while living chastely? Elizabeth discusses forgiveness vs. reconciliation, why suffering can deepen hope, the importance of physical boundaries, and practical ways to stay connected in long-distance relationships. If you're discerning marriage or healing from heartbreak, this conversation offers wisdom, encouragement, and a Christ-centered vision for love. 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • #1
    March 11 · 57 min

    Men vs Women Is a Lie + The Hidden Language of Men + Why Relationships Fail X Alison Armstrong

    What if many conflicts between men and women come from misunderstanding—not bad intentions? In this episode of Discerning Marriage, Elizabeth Busby sits down with relationship researcher Allison Armstrong to explore what decades of studying men reveal about how men and women think, communicate, and experience love. They discuss why men often prioritize respect while women seek connection, how misunderstandings about feelings and support create conflict, and why chemistry alone isn’t enough for lasting love. Whether you’re single, dating, engaged, or married, this conversation offers a hopeful vision: men and women learning to understand each other so they can truly thrive together. 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Alison's resources: Own Your Own Ultimatums webinar The Queen's Code audiobook In addition, your viewers can receive the following products for FREE using the promo codes and instructions below: Thrive Your Life webinar Click on "FOR ME"At check out, enter promo code AlisonThrive2025 (promo code expires 6/30/2026) Making Sense of Men: A Woman's Guide to a Lifetime of Love, Care & Attention from All Men eBook, available on the Alison Armstrong Mobile App Click on "FOR ME"At check out, enter promo code AlisonGift2025 (promo code expires 6/30/2026) Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • February 27 · 55 min

    He Hated Christianity + Navigating Major Moral Disagreements + More Than a Piece of Paper X Sips with Serra

    Adrian Lawson from Sips with Serra joins Elizabeth to share the full story behind his marriage journey: meeting his wife in high school, dating for seven years, converting from atheism to Protestantism to Catholicism, and navigating major moral disagreements along the way. They discuss what actually changed when he became Christian, why marriage is more than “just a piece of paper,” how to handle conflict without turning on each other, what it’s like when spouses don’t share the same faith, the process of having a marriage recognized by the Church, and how perseverance in truth leads to deeper unity. This episode is about love that matures, conviction that costs something, and a marriage built on more than feelings. 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • February 13 · 57 min

    Dropping Hankie, Not Standards + Masculine Pursuit + 24 Saint Club X Michael & Claire Couche

    What does it look like to discern marriage in a world confused about masculinity, femininity, and commitment?In this deeply personal conversation, we explore vocational loneliness, the surprising story of the “24-year-old saints,” intentional dating, dropping the hankie with courage, and the lost art of masculine pursuit. We talk honestly about infertility, miscarriage, surrender, and how God often writes our love stories through suffering rather than ease. ⁠Friendship guide⁠ ⁠Christopher West & Elizabeth Video⁠ ⁠Heart of Perfection Book⁠ ⁠Finding Philothea⁠ ⁠Finding Philothea IG⁠ 📸 ⁠Elizabeth’s Instagram⁠ 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our ⁠Next Step⁠ course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠⁠ 📚 ⁠⁠Course schedule⁠⁠ 🏔️ ⁠⁠Pilgrimages⁠⁠ 🛍️ ⁠⁠Store⁠⁠

  • January 30 · 51 min

    Surrendering Your Vocation + Omelet Man Coffee Date + Kissing Until Commitment X Trey & Mari Wagner

    Mari and Trey Wagner (West Coast Catholic / Ever Be Podcast) share their “behind-the-veil” discernment story—from an iconic meet-cute that started with Catholic mission and Bible studies, to the deeper spiritual battle underneath dating: learning to trust the Father, surrender the dream, and receive it back as a gift. Along the way, they get practical about emotional chastity before “official” dating and offer concrete long-distance engagement tips you can actually use.Mari's IG West Coast Catholic Website 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • January 13 · 51 min

    The Freedom to Walk Away + Incarnational Speed Dating + Hope for Catholic Singles X Taylor O'Brien

    What if the “worst thing” that happened to you was actually God protecting your future? In this episode, Elizabeth sits down with Taylor from Candid Dating to talk about a broken engagement, the freedom to keep discerning even after the invites are sent, and how healing in front of the Eucharist can rebuild hope. Then they go straight at modern dating culture—why we’ve lost the art of conversation, how to stop treating people like commodities, and what it looks like to date in a way that’s truly human (and truly Catholic). Taylor's Instagram Candid Dating 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • January 2 · 1 hr 18 min

    Lies That Harden Women + Beauty of the Wedding Night + Family Virtue X Emily & Daniel Hussem

    What if the “spicy” parts of marriage were never the point—and the real battle was for your heart? In this episode of Discerning Marriage, Elizabeth sits down with Emily & Daniel to talk spiritual warfare (and Stoneheart), long-distance discernment, why “awkward” is the wrong frame for purity and intimacy, and the practical habits that protect real love—like presence, teamwork, and a home where hearts stay soft. Sacred Spark app Emily Wilson IG 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

  • Dec 19, 2025 · 1 hr 1 min

    Meeting When in Seminary + Reality vs. Romance + The Novena That Got Me Engaged X Jackie & Bobby Angel

    What happens when you meet “the one” while he’s still discerning the priesthood? Elizabeth Busby sits down with Jackie & Bobby Angel to unpack their wild Theology of the Body Institute meet-cute, the moment “scales fell from my eyes,” and the prayer-story that includes a 54-day novena and a “future husband” journal.Plus: their most bracing dating advice—how to tell “reality vs. romance,” why wasting time is real, and what marriage should feel like when it’s right. 👩‍❤️‍👨 Fresh Start: A Dating & Discerning Marriage Conference 📸 ⁠Elizabeth’s Instagram⁠ 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our ⁠Next Step⁠ course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠⁠ 📚 ⁠⁠Course schedule⁠⁠ 🏔️ ⁠⁠Pilgrimages⁠⁠ 🛍️ ⁠⁠Store⁠

  • Dec 5, 2025 · 56 min

    Signal Graces, Lust & the Future of the Church, and God Wants Your Youth | Cameron Riecker

    A conversation to wake the sleeping giant inside men and women. From discernment, vocation, prayer, and sacrifice — this episode is a rallying cry to stop drifting and step into the mission God built you for. 📸 Elizabeth’s Instagram 👩‍❤️‍👨 If you’re seriously dating and thinking about getting engaged, check out our Next Step course to help discern if you’re both ready for engagement. Theology of the Body Institute Resources: 🔥 ⁠3 FREE sessions of our flagship course on the TOB⁠ 💬 Text TOB to (404) 647-7682 ⚡️ ⁠Support us & get access to leading TOB formation⁠ 📚 ⁠Course schedule⁠ 🏔️ ⁠Pilgrimages⁠ 🛍️ ⁠Store⁠

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