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Dirty Chats

Marisa Twentyman I Dirty Copy

Pop culture meets marketing and business growth. Dirty Chats is the marketing podcast that turns celebrity gossip, trending scandals and viral moments into brand strategy, marketing psychology and entrepreneurial tips...so you can gossip AND grow your business. 
Hit follow to join founders, marketers, and creatives who want marketing advice with a side of juicy pop culture.


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  • April 9 · 43 min

    33: Blake Lively vs Justin Baldoni: What the Ruling Actually Means (And the PR Plan She Needs) 🐉

    Hold your florals, because in this episode I SAVE BLAKE LIVELY'S REPUTATION. Also in this ep, it's the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni case explained - well, the updates anyway. Because Judge Liman just gutted two thirds of Blake Lively's lawsuit against Justin Baldoni. So, in Dirty Dish: I break down exactly what happened with the Blake Lively vs Justin Baldoni ruling. What was dismissed, why it's not as simple as "she lost," and what's actually heading to trial in May. I also go line by line through her post-ruling statement, and discuss the diabolical dragon emoji 🐉 Plus I have a full image rehabilitation plan for Blake that I genuinely believe could save her career. Dirty Business: Selena Gomez's Rare Beauty has done two activations back to back that shows she's at the top of her marketing game. And I want to explain why they work on a brain level, not just a "oh that's cute" level. Scratch-and-sniff billboards in New York City. A casino slot machine that dispenses foundation samples outside Sephora. And the psychological concept that ties them both together: the pattern interrupt. I also bring in Steven Bartlett's £13,000 blue slide and what it has to do with your content strategy in a post-AI world. → Why Judge Liman dismissed Blake Lively's sexual harassment claim and what "independent contractor" actually means legally → What's still going to trial in May and why the smear campaign claims were always the heart of this case → How Rare Beauty's experiential marketing activations use pattern interrupts to trigger dopamine and create brand memory → The neuroscience of novelty and why your brain remembers unexpected experiences more vividly than anything familiar → What Steven Bartlett's £13,000 blue slide can teach you about standing out in a saturated, AI-content-flooded market → The one question every brand needs to answer: what's your scratch-and-sniff billboard? I'm Marisa Twentyman, founder of Dirty Copy and host of Dirty Chats. Find my website HERE

  • S2 · E4
    April 2 · 25 min

    32: How Alix Earle sold out Reale Actives in 19 hours...and why is Kris Jenner blowing up in China?! 🇨🇳

    Alix Earle just sold out a skincare brand in 19 hours. Here's exactly how she did it. In Dirty Dish, hundreds of thousands of Chinese social media users are changing their profile pictures to Kris Jenner's face....but why? Then in Dirty Business, I break down Alix Earle's pre-launch campaign for Real Actives, her new acne skincare brand. 🧩 Alix spent months feeding people's primal brains before a single product was available to buy. The rollout included cryptic Instagram accounts, passcode-locked suitcases sent to influencers, a physical puzzle billboard in SoHo, and the Empire State Building lit up in mint green. The whole range sold out in 19 hours 🤯 I walk through every step of the campaign and the buyer psychology behind why it worked.... ... including what part of the brain actually makes people buy. The recap: → Why Kris Jenner is trending across China and what it says about how aspiration actually travels online → How Alix Earle's Real Actives pre-launch campaign used curiosity loops and dopamine to sell out in 19 hours — before most people had seen a single product → The reptilian brain buying sequence (emotion first, logic second, purchase third) and how to apply it to your own launches → Why overcoming objections publicly — the way Alix did with her Accutane history — is one of the most underused moves in product marketing → What Alix Earl's daily Get Ready With Me habit teaches us about consistency vs. intelligence in business I'm Marisa Twentyman, host of Dirty Chats, creative copywriter and marketing consultant for brands that don't do boring. THANKS FOR BEING HERE! Check out my IG here

  • S2 · E3
    March 25 · 43 min

    31: Taylor Frankie Paul, The Bachelorette drama, and the $70 Million Cost of Bad PR

    This week I'm unpacking the full Taylor Frankie Paul situation: the assault footage, the cancelled season, the lawsuit rumours, and the one question nobody's really asking....why did ABC cast her in the first place when they knew? (We're blaming Nick). I also have a full PR plan for three different parties caught in this mess: * the Bachelorette franchise * The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives * and Taylor herself. And yes, I pitched ABC a plan to save their show. Six days later, Deux Moi dropped a blind item that suggests they may have… borrowed it. Still waiting for my cheque 😏 The real marketing lesson buried in all of this? (yes, I talk about marketing as well.) The currency of marketing is feelings, and the second your audience feels bad about watching you, the money dries up. Here's what else I cover: → Why ABC's decision to cast Taylor Frankie Paul - despite knowing her domestic violence history - is a masterclass in what happens when entertainment brands chase drama over due diligence → The psychology behind why audiences forgave Taylor before the video, and why they can't now - and what that means for your brand's perception → Why the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives franchise may not survive this, and what a brand does when its main character becomes a liability → What a brand activation event at scale actually looks like - and how the Bachelorette could use one to rebuild visibility and recoup losses → Why silence is sometimes the only PR move that works (my real plan for Taylor, and it starts with a garden) Check out the viral IG carousel HERE And my website HERE

  • S2 · E2
    March 15 · 46 min

    30: Is Meghan Markle getting paid 1 million for a girls retreat? And the truth behind Timothee Chalamet's Oscar campaign 😬

    The one where I pitch Meghan Markle a business idea she didn't ask for - and break down Timothée Chalamet's Oscar campaign in history. This week on Dirty Chats, we're covering two stories that have absolutely nothing in common except that both involve famous people who both take themselves very seriously. First up in Dirty Dish - Meghan Markle. The Her Best Life retreat in Sydney sold out in days, there are conflicting reports about whether she's getting paid $1 million or doing it "as a favour for a friend" (spoiler: it's neither and both), and Netflix has officially pulled out of as ever, her lifestyle brand. I also pitch Meghan a business idea she absolutely needs to hear...what can I say, she needs me. Then in Dirty Business - will Timmy's gaffe hurt his Oscars chance? I chat timelines including Oscar voting dates. But the real story is his Marty Supreme marketing campaign, which was genuinely brilliant. A fake 18-minute leaked Zoom meeting. An orange blimp over American cities. Climbing the Las Vegas Sphere. Crashing a real table tennis tournament. Losing basketball to high schoolers with Adam Sandler. We unpack how Oscar campaigns actually work (it's literally influencer marketing invented decades before Instagram existed), the bandwagon effect in action, Seth Godin's Purple Cow... ...and I break down one of my favourite marketing startup stories of all time: BUMBLE's. What you'll learn: → Why the Oscar FYC (For Your Consideration) campaign is a $25 million marketing exercise disguised as an arts competition → How Bumble shortcutted their way to perceived status with zero ad spend — and what that means for your brand → The Purple Cow principle and why safe is actually the riskiest strategy for your business → Why showing up where your audience ISN'T is the move that changes everything → The bandwagon effect and why social proof is still the most powerful conversion tool you've got If you're creating content for your brand and want carousels that actually go viral - check out my Viral Carousel course. And if you want the gorgeous, psychology-baked templates to match, jump on the waitlist for Viral Carousel Templates. Join Carousel Template Waitlist HERE Dirty Chats is hosted by Marisa Twentyman, NZ-based copywriter and founder of Dirty Copy. New episodes drop weekly.

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