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Inside CBP's Trade & Cargo Security Summit | Decoding Cross-Border Ecommerce | Ep #83

CBP just held its Trade & Cargo Security Summit in Texas — the first one since the strengthening customs enforcement EO dropped. And the mood in the room was very different than at past conferences. In this episode of the Decoding Cross-Border Ecommerce podcast, Clint Reid, Founder and CEO of Zonos, and Aaron Bezzant, Zonos' Head of Global Trade Strategy, are joined by Josh Aikens, Zonos' Head of Government Affairs, for his podcast debut after 11 years at the company. Josh and Aaron were both on the ground at the summit and unpack what CBP actually said, what the industry actually felt, and where the real gap sits between the two. They walk through what a CBP-run "listening session" looks like, why the industry is more guarded and skeptical than nervous this time around, the chicken-and-egg problem (industry wants regs; CBP wants industry input before writing them), the "F word" nobody wanted to say out loud (facilitation), and how CBP is framing enforcement not as the opposite of facilitation but as what unlocks it for legitimate trade. The conversation also covers the specific asks CBP kept coming back to — know your customer, real POA paper trails, supply chain visibility all the way back — the way CTPAT is being "voluntold" as the new standard, why "graded on a curve" is the right mental model as good actors raise the bar, and why for low-value ecommerce the only realistic path to compliance is technology. 🎧 If you broker into the U.S., ship through anyone who does, or care about where CBP's enforcement posture is actually headed, this is the one to watch. Chapters [00:00:00] Welcome Josh Aikens — Zonos' man in DC [00:01:52] Setting the scene: CBP's Trade & Cargo Security Summit [00:03:29] What a CBP "listening session" actually looks like [00:05:47] The mood of the industry: guarded and nervous [00:07:34] Three brokers shut down last week — the anxiety is real [00:08:21] CBP's message: this should be a win for good actors [00:09:37] The chicken-and-egg: industry wants regs, CBP wants input first [00:11:39] Enforcement vs. facilitation — and why they're not opposites [00:15:01] What CBP is really asking for: know your customer, real POA paper trails [00:17:12] CTPAT: voluntary in name, "voluntold" in practice [00:19:20] Supply chain visibility all the way back [00:19:53] Applying it to low-value ecommerce — why technology is the only answer [00:22:05] Graded on a curve — the bar keeps moving [00:23:07] Dad joke break [00:24:04] CBP's actual end goal: security and compliance

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CBP just held its Trade & Cargo Security Summit in Texas — the first one since the strengthening customs enforcement EO dropped. And the mood in the room was very different than at past conferences.

In this episode of the Decoding Cross-Border Ecommerce podcast, Clint Reid, Founder and CEO of Zonos, and Aaron Bezzant, Zonos' Head of Global Trade Strategy, are joined by Josh Aikens, Zonos' Head of Government Affairs, for his podcast debut after 11 years at the company. Josh and Aaron were both on the ground at the summit and unpack what CBP actually said, what the industry actually felt, and where the real gap sits between the two.

They walk through what a CBP-run "listening session" looks like, why the industry is more guarded and skeptical than nervous this time around, the chicken-and-egg problem (industry wants regs; CBP wants industry input before writing them), the "F word" nobody wanted to say out loud (facilitation), and how CBP is framing enforcement not as the opposite of facilitation but as what unlocks it for legitimate trade.

The conversation also covers the specific asks CBP kept coming back to — know your customer, real POA paper trails, supply chain visibility all the way back — the way CTPAT is being "voluntold" as the new standard, why "graded on a curve" is the right mental model as good actors raise the bar, and why for low-value ecommerce the only realistic path to compliance is technology.

🎧 If you broker into the U.S., ship through anyone who does, or care about where CBP's enforcement posture is actually headed, this is the one to watch.

Chapters

[00:00:00] Welcome Josh Aikens — Zonos' man in DC
[00:01:52] Setting the scene: CBP's Trade & Cargo Security Summit
[00:03:29] What a CBP "listening session" actually looks like
[00:05:47] The mood of the industry: guarded and nervous
[00:07:34] Three brokers shut down last week — the anxiety is real
[00:08:21] CBP's message: this should be a win for good actors
[00:09:37] The chicken-and-egg: industry wants regs, CBP wants input first
[00:11:39] Enforcement vs. facilitation — and why they're not opposites
[00:15:01] What CBP is really asking for: know your customer, real POA paper trails
[00:17:12] CTPAT: voluntary in name, "voluntold" in practice
[00:19:20] Supply chain visibility all the way back
[00:19:53] Applying it to low-value ecommerce — why technology is the only answer
[00:22:05] Graded on a curve — the bar keeps moving
[00:23:07] Dad joke break
[00:24:04] CBP's actual end goal: security and compliance