Decipher Security Podcast

Fable 5 Export Controls, the Dual Use Paradox, and the ARToken Phishing Framework

It's a pre-July 4th extravaganza! To celebrate, we dive into a little cybersecurity history with a story about the MySpace Samy worm, then we jumpe into the news of the week, including an update on the Fable 5 export control drama, and the emergence of the ARToken operator panel.

The (Bug) Disclosure Day Conundrum and How AI is Changing the Game with Katie Moussouris

Hacker and legendary vulnerability disclosure expert Katie Moussouris of Luta Security joins Dennis to talk about the Fable 5 munitions classification controversy, the recent re-emergence of the disclosure debate, how AI-assisted bug hunting is reshaping the defensive landscape, and what the future holds for attackers and defenders.

The Gaslight macOS Backdoor, Cisco Zero Day Exploit, and Operation Endgame

It's a non-AI podcast! This week we dig into the new Gaslight macOS implant that tries to trick security researchers with some anti-forensics techniques, then we discuss the Operation Endgame takedown of some malware infrastructure, and finally we discuss a Cisco Catalyst SD-WAN bug that was exploited as a zero day.

How Much Do Data Breaches Really Cost? | Alex Pinto

Alex Pinto, one of the lead authors of the Verizon Data Breach Investigations Report, joins Dennis to talk about his organization's newest publication, the Breach Impact Study, which digs into the real world cost of breaches, both in dollars and in organizational impact. Spoiler: Breaches are expensive. Verizon BIS: https://www.verizon.com/business/resources/reports/2026-breach-impact-study-dbir.pdf

The Shrinking Exploit Window, Patch Schedule Changes, and the Vulnpocalypse

This week was blessedly free of any major supply chain compromises, so we start by talking about new research from Anthropic on the shrinking window between bug disclosure and exploitation, then we discuss the changing patch schedule for Cisco and how all of this is changing the prioritization process for security teams, and finally we discuss some upcoming episodes and our latest hacker movie podcast on The Conversation. Links Anthropic research: https://decipher.sc/2026/06/10/anthropic-warns-of-llms-impact-on-already-shrinking-n-day-exploit-gap/ Cisco patch change: https://blogs.cisco.com/security/strengthening-the-foundation-a-predictable-customer-focused-response-to-ai-accelerated-vulnerability-discovery The Vulnpocalypse: https://thevulnpocalypse.com/

How The Conversation Predicted Our Surveillance Society 50 Years Ago

Perhaps no film captures the paranoia and anxiety of the 1970s better than The Conversation, Francis Ford Copolla's masterpiece about reclusive surveillance expert Harry Caul, a man who it's safe to say has some demons. Decades before we all agreed to carry tracking and recording devices in our pockets, The Conversation shows us just how invasive and damaging technology can be.

Shai Hulud Returns, How Attackers are Using AI, and More Weird MSRC Behavior

We regret to inform you that there are more npm supply chain attacks this week, and a new variant of the Shai Hulud worm is involved. We also talk about the new analysis from Anthropic on a year of data relating to how attackers are using AI in their operations, and the continuing adventures of Microsoft's relationship with security researchers.

Microsoft Has Forgotten Its Vulnerability Disclosure History

The recent Nightmare-Eclipse zero day drop and attendant drama has stirred up all kinds of trouble and unfortunately spurred Microsoft to publish a post scolding security researchers for not using the "proper channels" to disclose bugs, threatening legal action, and generally dredging up every hobby horse from the threadbare disclosure debate. Links MSRC post: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/msrc/blog/2026/05/a-shared-responsibility-protecting-customers-through-coordinated-vulnerability-disclosure Decipher story: https://decipher.sc/2026/05/28/the-past-is-always-present-in-vulnerability-disclosure/ Expel event: https://info.expel.com/event-mythos-unhappy-hour.html

Lessons in Resilience, Perseverance, and Leadership With Matt Eversmann

After being caught in one of the more notorious battles in modern American history, Matt Eversmann's military career has become the stuff of legend. The Battle of Mogadishu, immortalized in the book and movie Black Hawk Down, was a pivotal event in U.S. history and in the lives of Matt and his fellow soldiers. Now retired from the army and focusing on training the next generation of leaders, Matt joins Dennis Fisher to talk about his career, what he's learned from his failures and successes, and how vital resilience and perseverance are for success in any field. Matt's biography: https://thayerleadership.com/team-member/first-sergeant-matt-eversmann/

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Chain Chain Chain of Compromises

In the spring, a young attacker's fancy turns to supply chain compromises, and this season's crop includes the GitHub breach and the Grafana intrusion, which are connected and trace back to the TanStack supply chain attack and...TeamPCP. Links Grafana attack: https://decipher.sc/2026/05/17/grafana-investigating-token-compromise-and-extortion-attempt/ GitHub breach: https://decipher.sc/2026/05/20/github-confirms-internal-breach/

What the Data Tells Us About Claude Mythos and Bug Exploitability | Jay Jacobs and Michael Roytman

Finding a huge pile of bugs with Claude Mythos is great, but the logical next step is figuring out how many of those vulnerabilities are likely to be exploited in the near future. Jay Jacobs and Michael Roytman of Empirical Security join Dennis to talk about how the Exploit Prediction Scoring System can help teams make informed decisions and prioritize patching the most important vulnerabilities. Jay and Michael are pioneers in the data-driven security field and help steer the EPSS effort.

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Solving Hard Security Problems With an Outsider's Perspective | Sravish Sridhar

Unlike a lot of founders in the industry, Sravish Sridhar hasn't spent his career in the security world. He comes from a background in distributed computing and advanced math, and is a successful entrepreneur who's now bringing that experience to bear at TrustCloud, where he's helping CISOs automate and streamline their compliance programs.

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AI Has a Security Measurement Problem | Gary McGraw

Few people (if any) have spent more time thinking about and working on the hard problems in security and software than Gary McGraw, and he also happens to have a PhD in cognitive science and computer science and has been studying neural nets and AI systems for 30+ years. Gary joins Dennis to talk about his team's new research into AI security benchmarks, measurement, and bringing a software security approach to LLMs and AI systems. Links BIML report: https://berryvilleiml.com/results/no-security-meter-ai.pdf

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