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Creation Science Podcast

Felice Gerwitz

What is creation science — and does it really line up with God’s Word? When Felice Gerwitz was in middle school, the evolution she was taught collided with everything her mother had taught her about God as Creator. Years later, the Lord brought a mentor into her life — the woman who would become her co-author on the Creation Science study guide series and ground her in the subject. This podcast is the labor of love that grew from it: years of teaching on the wonder and truth of God’s creation, for homeschool families who want to explore science through the lens of faith. Press play and discover the Creator behind all He has made.

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  • Sep 23, 2025 · 19 min

    The Story in the Rocks (Replay)

    The Story in the Rocks Episode 10 Story in the Rocks | Patrick Nurre shares the story in the rocks in today’s’ episode. Below find the show notes, and also a set you can also download a set. | #podcast #creationpodcast Introduction: Secular scientists tell us that the rocks are like the pages of a history book that can only be read by those trained in modern geology. The rocks do tell a story, but you must start from a correct historical perspective of the history of Earth. Until the mid to late 1700’s those who studied nature were called naturalists. Their study sprang from the Creation story and the Genesis Flood as told in scripture. Newton and Galileo used this approach. Nicolas Steno, one of the first to study geology, followed this. His rules are still taught today. What about radiometric dating being used to date rocks and bones? Consider this: Radioactivity was discovered in 1897. The first radiometric age of the earth was calculated in 1917. But modern geology had already established early ages for the earth over 100 years before radiometric dating. So those who established these early ages in the 1800s were guessing. Since radiometric dating was first developed, many problems have surfaced with it. Numerous articles have been written about these problems. How old are the rocks, fossils, and the earth? What is the story in the rocks? These questions can’t be resolved by science, (observation, testing, and repetition of tests). And even before we answer these, we need a starting point. There are two starting points, and both are philosophies. One is the Bible. The other came from the Enlightenment, a movement in the 18th and 19th centuries. It was a breakaway from the traditions of the church, the Bible, and miracles. Everything was to be studied apart from these. The historicity of the Scriptures was rejected, even though there was no sound reason for doing this. The starting point for this second view was an idea called, uniformitarianism. It rejected a young Earth and a global flood, and said, instead, that the geology we observe now shaped the earth over immensely long periods of time. James Hutton considered the Father of Modern Geology, promoted this. This is the only view that is accepted in our modern educational institutions. So how old are the rocks and fossils? This must be answered from a historical framework. Uniformitarianism is limited in its ability to address this historically since the history of observation in uniformitarianism is limited to the past two hundred years. But the Bible records a global geological event that took place 4500 years ago. Let’s apply the Biblical concept to the rocks. Volcanic rocks: These are the only rocks we see forming. They spew out dangerous gases and cause destruction. They would not have been a part of the original, very good creation. Volcanoes would fit in Gen. 7:11 when the fountains of the great deep burst open. Granitic rocks: Nobody has seen them form, but the consensus is that they are the foundation rocks of Earth. Biblical history would have them created within the first few days of the creation week. Metamorphic rocks (changed rocks): Nobody has seen these form. Biblical history would fit them in Gen. 7:11. Sediments produced at this time as well as foundation rocks would have been changed through heat and pressure as these rocks ground against each other, consequently rearranging the minerals into new patterns. Limestone could have changed into marble, sandstone into quartzite, granite into gneiss. Fossils (found in sedimentary rocks): These are explained by a catastrophic flood. Muddy sediments would have quickly buried billions of creatures and plants, preserving examples of the pre-flood world. And we now know that it does not take millions of years to form a fossil, but the right chemical environment. Conclusion: The rocks and fossils tell a story, from the creation of elements to the destruction of the earth in a year-long, global flood. It is clearly seen in the evidence. Resources from Media Angels: Go deeper with the complete Creation Science for Homeschoolers guide — or explore the Creation Geology Study Guide. The post The Story in the Rocks (Replay) appeared first on Ultimate Homeschool Podcast Network.

  • Mar 17, 2025 · length unknown

    Creation and Evolution: What’s the Difference?

    📚 Part of our guide: Homeschool Science Creation and Evolution Beliefs Creation and evolution beliefs are just that – a topic that deals with looking at the evidence and perhaps with a different conclusion. In this podcast, Felice shares her research with a creation scientist as well as her curriculum that has received inclusion in Cathy Duffy’s 100 and 101 Top Homeschool Curriculum. Jill Whitlock and Felice Gerwitz co-authored a series of curriculum for the homeschool and Christian school market. You can find our books at MediaAngelsMembership.com as well as on Amazon. Visit our sponsor – Judson College. Creation and evolution beliefs can follow you anywhere! Felice attended a health conference for doctor’s and one talk was entitled the Embryo Defensive Human Life. And as you know, with a topic of a creation and evolution, that’s one of the big things that come up with a definition of what human life is. The talk was hosted by professor Robert George, he is a Princeton University professor. What was amazing was the fact that the discussion these days has gone to the definition of life, as a Christian, I believe that life is at the moment of conception and the human embryo is totally human. It is a humankind. It has a potential to grow into an adult. Professor George had to be transported to and from the airport by a deputy sheriff of Lee County. And it was, I’m sure for his safety, he had to be escorted because he has had death threats on his life. While we may consider that we live in a free society when you see things such as this, it is hard to believe. And right now I just praise God that there is this ability to speak frankly about the importance of the beginning of life, which is important to the future of our children! Be sure to teach your children that God created is wonderful, commendable, and should be done. He’s written many books and was so articulate and so logical to me that much of it dovetails into this discussion of creation and evolution. Let me just preface this, talk with a couple of things and one of them is my lack of knowledge beginning any discussion on the topic. I met Jill Whitlock many years ago now and she was a scientist. She was an oil and weld geologists by degree. And when I met her she was telling me about the topic of creation and evolution. Teaching Creation and evolution beliefs side-by-side is important. I had just attended a conference at the state convention the year before. And I said I was left with a lot of questions. I bought a lot of books, but I didn’t know what to do with these books. She had made a ten-year study at the time and invited me over. She started out the discussion with the second law of thermodynamics and I hit pause on the recorder and I said, okay, we need to stop here. I didn’t even know there was a First Law of Thermodynamics and here you are talking about a second Law of Thermodynamics. And I said, well, what is the thermodynamics? After we stopped laughing she went on and explained and opened my eyes to the world of science and how important it was to teach both concepts to your children. Many times in our in our homeschool world, children are taught biblical principles and are taught values, virtues, and character qualities. And all of these things are very important and very pivotal. And I do this as well in my own schooling of my children. But I want to challenge you to go one step further and I want to challenge you to consider teaching creation and evolution side by side. And here’s the reason why. For many, many years, I’ve had friends in all walks of faith in the homeschool world and outside of it that serve the Lord, yet their children have strayed. Some even believe that it is anti-Christian because anybody who is open-minded could not possibly consider that God used the book of Genesis as fact, many consider it an allegory. I don’t argue the point anymore. What I do say is educate yourself and whatever you decide is between you and your maker, if you believed there is one or not. And it’s not anything. I can only present the information and then you can decide how you’re going to teach it. And you know, I know there’s some wonderful curriculum available. Our books are geared with a very, very detailed outline that Jill came up with after many, many, many years of research. My challenge to you with today is to give your children a foundation that will stay with them after they leave your home and go into adulthood. At some point, your kids will need to make a choice and hopefully, they can make a choice for God! However, they must understand the evolutionary perspective. You can’t put God in a box, however, I believe that the book of Genesis. should be taken literally, we take every word in the Bible literally. It’s not up to me to decide, everyone needs to make up their own mind. As a Christian we discuss Genesis 12 and consider that literally because it discusses Abraham and the lineage of David, leading to Christ. Points discussed on this podcast: It is important not only for me to teach my children the Biblical truth, but also to teach them that evolution does not hold the answers. Discuss with your children – when does life begin. Creation and evolution are both very important. Charles Darwin is considered the father of evolutionary thought. He basically preempted another author when he wrote the book Origins of Species and it became based on some of his observations that was published in 1859 and has become the dominant scientific theory of origins amongst influential scientists. Today scientists today no longer believe in evolution as proposed by Charles Darwin. In fact, they call it neo-Darwin and Neo Darwinian. Darwin said that the fossil record would prove all the transitions that he speculated about in his observations in the fossil record is still sadly lacking what in, in not sad for us to set for evolutionists. When studying about creation versus evolution, there have been three things that have really shaken the evolutionary foundation. And one is the scientists claim that DNA can be traced back to one set of parents. One scientist refer to this as the Mitochondrial Eve. This is bad press for an evolutionist, because of the reference to the Bible, but totally in line with what creation! Teach that all mankind comes from one set of parents. And if you believe in the biblical principles, we call them Adam and Eve. The second amazing thing with scientists believing they can test the effects of the beginning of time. Again, a big shock to them because they believed that the big bang or rose from an eternal universe, and now if they can see a beginning, then the question becomes who started it? The third shock in the scientific community is when red blood cells were found and dinosaur bones. Now, this is impossible since it is believed that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. The blood cells should have dissipated, are fossilized — but here they were not. In fact, and we use this as a topic in our second novel in the truth seekers mystery series, dinosaur quest. Everything you read about evolution teaches it as a given fact. Beware of this. They use words such as millions of years ago or we know that millions of years ago that… And so these are the things that really bother me when I read them teaching creation and evolution side by side. It says it all because your student, your child has been a constantly been be bombarded with evolutionary information from secular sources. Second, we need to teach evolution so that our children will understand the problems with the theory and learn how to counter what they see and hear in the media through science by definition is observable, repeatable, and testable. We cannot go back and observe or redo creation, nor can we observe or a test evolution than they are both. Belief systems both require faith to believe. There are so many scientists who are so eager to believe the lies of evolution when there’s so much evidence contrary to evolution, but it is censored. And the opinions of scientists are presented as facts. We either say things are a theory, proven or a hypothesis. Science teaches the theory of evolution is a valid hypothesis based on, “all of this evidence” that is still missing. Do you kids understand or could they debate a college professor who claims that Carbon14 dating is valid? My daughter did this in college and I share the details in this podcast. It is important for your children (and you) to understand the difference. Teach your children to think through things logically. Children who are being taught to think logically, are able to combat those who are illogical. Artifacts for example, of a fossilized beetle, are supposed to be 60 million years old, yet it is unchanged from a modern living beetle. We can point out and show our children. (My daughter and I used this topic in our third novel (http://www.TruthSeekersMysterySeries.com – Keys To The Past: Unlocked) The majority of people today, including many Christians, think the theory of evolution was founded by Darwin and is supported by scientific effort. And it actually began before the ancient Greeks. And again, there is no scientific basis that really, really definitively says, you know, here’s the information, you know, we’re done with it, there’s no more discussions, you know, the theory of evolution caused from the new changes over time and allows one species to change into a totally different species over millions of years. Macroevolution does not exist and there is no evidence. People try to say that microevolution has also evolved. Now micro is a change within a kind and that is not at all what we consider evolution. I have no problem with microevolution. When people talk about Noah’s Ark and look at feasibility studies that had been done about it, it is astounding that each kind of animal was on the Ark. You know, even some of the dinosaur kinds. And most dinosaurs were actually very small about the size of a chicken. Dr. Henry Morris was a tenured scientist who left to found the Institute for Creation Research. And he was for a sore point in the side of “real scientists” because he was a real scientist. He was a tenured scientist at a secular university. James Watson and Francis Crick were scientists who recognized that nothing could have evolved by random chance or mutations over time. And this spawned the Intelligent Design debate. Intelligent Design says that our world is so complex it must have an Intelligent designer –proponents of this are across the board in their belief systems from Christian groups, Christian, Catholics, Jewish atheists were all part of this group and still are today. Many videos are available by Michael Behe on YouTube. Evolution is still considered a theory. There is no law of evolution. Biogenesis states that life can only come from life. And therefore, evolution violates the Law of Biogenesis and if you try to ask a scientist that you will get every other answer, but a direct response. And to me it’s so amazing and these are the kinds of things that happen when people turn their backs to Christian principles. Many students lose their states and reject the biblical teaching of their families and churches and essentially lose their fate due to evolution. The post Creation and Evolution: What’s the Difference? appeared first on Ultimate Homeschool Podcast Network.

  • Nov 19, 2024 · length unknown

    Creation and Evolution: What’s the Difference? (Replay)

    Creation and Evolution Beliefs Creation and evolution beliefs are just that – a topic that deals with looking at the evidence and perhaps with a different conclusion. In this podcast, Felice shares her research with a creation scientist as well as her curriculum that has received inclusion in Cathy Duffy’s 100 and 101 Top Homeschool Curriculum. Jill Whitlock and Felice Gerwitz co-authored a series of curriculum for the homeschool and Christian school market. You can find our books at MediaAngelsMembership.com as well as on Amazon. Thanks to NowProgams for sponsoring this episode. Creation and evolution beliefs can follow you anywhere! Felice attended a health conference for doctor’s and one talk was entitled the Embryo Defensive Human Life. And as you know, with a topic of a creation and evolution, that’s one of the big things that come up with a definition of what human life is. The talk was hosted by professor Robert George, he is a Princeton University professor. What was amazing was the fact that the discussion these days has gone to the definition of life, as a Christian, I believe that life is at the moment of conception and the human embryo is totally human. It is a humankind. It has a potential to grow into an adult. Professor George had to be transported to and from the airport by a deputy sheriff of Lee County. And it was, I’m sure for his safety, he had to be escorted because he has had death threats on his life. While we may consider that we live in a free society when you see things such as this, it is hard to believe. And right now I just praise God that there is this ability to speak frankly about the importance of the beginning of life, which is important to the future of our children! Be sure to teach your children that God created is wonderful, commendable, and should be done. He’s written many books and was so articulate and so logical to me that much of it dovetails into this discussion of creation and evolution. Let me just preface this, talk with a couple of things and one of them is my lack of knowledge beginning any discussion on the topic. I met Jill Whitlock many years ago now and she was a scientist. She was an oil and weld geologists by degree. And when I met her she was telling me about the topic of creation and evolution. Teaching Creation and evolution beliefs side-by-side is important. I had just attended a conference at the state convention the year before. And I said I was left with a lot of questions. I bought a lot of books, but I didn’t know what to do with these books. She had made a ten-year study at the time and invited me over. She started out the discussion with the second law of thermodynamics and I hit pause on the recorder and I said, okay, we need to stop here. I didn’t even know there was a First Law of Thermodynamics and here you are talking about a second Law of Thermodynamics. And I said, well, what is the thermodynamics? After we stopped laughing she went on and explained and opened my eyes to the world of science and how important it was to teach both concepts to your children. Many times in our in our homeschool world, children are taught biblical principles and are taught values, virtues, and character qualities. And all of these things are very important and very pivotal. And I do this as well in my own schooling of my children. But I want to challenge you to go one step further and I want to challenge you to consider teaching creation and evolution side by side. And here’s the reason why. For many, many years, I’ve had friends in all walks of faith in the homeschool world and outside of it that serve the Lord, yet their children have strayed. Some even believe that it is anti-Christian because anybody who is open-minded could not possibly consider that God used the book of Genesis as fact, many consider it an allegory. I don’t argue the point anymore. What I do say is educate yourself and whatever you decide is between you and your maker, if you believed there is one or not. And it’s not anything. I can only present the information and then you can decide how you’re going to teach it. And you know, I know there’s some wonderful curriculum available. Our books are geared with a very, very detailed outline that Jill came up with after many, many, many years of research. My challenge to you with today is to give your children a foundation that will stay with them after they leave your home and go into adulthood. At some point, your kids will need to make a choice and hopefully, they can make a choice for God! However, they must understand the evolutionary perspective. You can’t put God in a box, however, I believe that the book of Genesis. should be taken literally, we take every word in the Bible literally. It’s not up to me to decide, everyone needs to make up their own mind. As a Christian we discuss Genesis 12 and consider that literally because it discusses Abraham and the lineage of David, leading to Christ. Points discussed on this podcast: It is important not only for me to teach my children the Biblical truth, but also to teach them that evolution does not hold the answers. Discuss with your children – when does life begin. Creation and evolution are both very important. Charles Darwin is considered the father of evolutionary thought. He basically preempted another author when he wrote the book Origins of Species and it became based on some of his observations that was published in 1859 and has become the dominant scientific theory of origins amongst influential scientists. Today scientists today no longer believe in evolution as proposed by Charles Darwin. In fact, they call it neo-Darwin and Neo Darwinian. Darwin said that the fossil record would prove all the transitions that he speculated about in his observations in the fossil record is still sadly lacking what in, in not sad for us to set for evolutionists. When studying about creation versus evolution, there have been three things that have really shaken the evolutionary foundation. And one is the scientists claim that DNA can be traced back to one set of parents. One scientist refer to this as the Mitochondrial Eve. This is bad press for an evolutionist, because of the reference to the Bible, but totally in line with what creation! Teach that all mankind comes from one set of parents. And if you believe in the biblical principles, we call them Adam and Eve. The second amazing thing with scientists believing they can test the effects of the beginning of time. Again, a big shock to them because they believed that the big bang or rose from an eternal universe, and now if they can see a beginning, then the question becomes who started it? The third shock in the scientific community is when red blood cells were found and dinosaur bones. Now, this is impossible since it is believed that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. The blood cells should have dissipated, are fossilized — but here they were not. In fact, and we use this as a topic in our second novel in the truth seekers mystery series, dinosaur quest. Everything you read about evolution teaches it as a given fact. Beware of this. They use words such as millions of years ago or we know that millions of years ago that… And so these are the things that really bother me when I read them teaching creation and evolution side by side. It says it all because your student, your child has been a constantly been be bombarded with evolutionary information from secular sources. Second, we need to teach evolution so that our children will understand the problems with the theory and learn how to counter what they see and hear in the media through science by definition is observable, repeatable, and testable. We cannot go back and observe or redo creation, nor can we observe or a test evolution than they are both. Belief systems both require faith to believe. There are so many scientists who are so eager to believe the lies of evolution when there’s so much evidence contrary to evolution, but it is censored. And the opinions of scientists are presented as facts. We either say things are a theory, proven or a hypothesis. Science teaches the theory of evolution is a valid hypothesis based on, “all of this evidence” that is still missing. Do you kids understand or could they debate a college professor who claims that Carbon14 dating is valid? My daughter did this in college and I share the details in this podcast. It is important for your children (and you) to understand the difference. Teach your children to think through things logically. Children who are being taught to think logically, are able to combat those who are illogical. Artifacts for example, of a fossilized beetle, are supposed to be 60 million years old, yet it is unchanged from a modern living beetle. We can point out and show our children. (My daughter and I used this topic in our third novel (http://www.TruthSeekersMysterySeries.com – Keys To The Past: Unlocked) The majority of people today, including many Christians, think the theory of evolution was founded by Darwin and is supported by scientific effort. And it actually began before the ancient Greeks. And again, there is no scientific basis that really, really definitively says, you know, here’s the information, you know, we’re done with it, there’s no more discussions, you know, the theory of evolution caused from the new changes over time and allows one species to change into a totally different species over millions of years. Macroevolution does not exist and there is no evidence. People try to say that microevolution has also evolved. Now micro is a change within a kind and that is not at all what we consider evolution. I have no problem with microevolution. When people talk about Noah’s Ark and look at feasibility studies that had been done about it, it is astounding that each kind of animal was on the Ark. You know, even some of the dinosaur kinds. And most dinosaurs were actually very small about the size of a chicken. Dr. Henry Morris was a tenured scientist who left to found the Institute for Creation Research. And he was for a sore point in the side of “real scientists” because he was a real scientist. He was a tenured scientist at a secular university. James Watson and Francis Crick were scientists who recognized that nothing could have evolved by random chance or mutations over time. And this spawned the Intelligent Design debate. Intelligent Design says that our world is so complex it must have an Intelligent designer –proponents of this are across the board in their belief systems from Christian groups, Christian, Catholics, Jewish atheists were all part of this group and still are today. Many videos are available by Michael Behe on YouTube. Evolution is still considered a theory. There is no law of evolution. Biogenesis states that life can only come from life. And therefore, evolution violates the Law of Biogenesis and if you try to ask a scientist that you will get every other answer, but a direct response. And to me it’s so amazing and these are the kinds of things that happen when people turn their backs to Christian principles. Many students lose their states and reject the biblical teaching of their families and churches and essentially lose their fate due to evolution. The post Creation and Evolution: What’s the Difference? (Replay) appeared first on Ultimate Homeschool Podcast Network.

  • Oct 18, 2024 · 33 min

    Biblical Creation Terminology Explained

    📚 Part of our guide: Homeschool Science Biblical Creation Terminology In order to have an intelligent discussion, you must understand the terms. Biblical Creation terminology is the focus of this podcast. Thanks to Media Angels website featuring Creation Science Unit Studies for an unbelievable price~MediaAngelsMembership.com And thank you to our sponsor, CTC Math. Biblical Creation vs. Evolution: A quick definition of Biblical Creation begins with the Creator God. A Creator God began the world with His Word. Genesis 1:1: “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.” Evolution – by definition is a change over time, it is a two-step process. 1. The theory that life began spontaneously on its own 2. Darwin’s theory of simple life evolving into more complex The terminology is confusing. Terminology is everything. “He who defines the term wins.” What is in a word? Creation: 1. Creation science 2. Biblical Creation 3. Old Earth Creationist Evolution: 1. Macro Evolution 2. Convergent Evolution 3. Darwinism 4. Neo-Darwinism 5. Old Earth 6. Theistic Evolution God created the world with His Word. Genesis 1:1 Do you believe that God created? It is a matter of faith, evidence points to a Creator. Intelligent Design: An “Intelligent” Designer began the world Science points to order not disorder Evolution does not make sense in regard to life beginning by accident The Designer could be: 1. God (for Christians) 2. Aliens 3. Unknown Adaptation: Scientists are conflicted and confused when discussing this aspect of evolution. The idea that traits are inherited by use and disuse is unscientific. The theory is that an organism adapts or alters according to certain genetic limits or due to circumstances. Creationists do believe that adaptation does happen within certain generic limits. Adaptation happens within a kind. For example, there are different kinds of dogs, cats, finch, etc. However, dogs remain dogs. New creatures or new features are never observed through adaptation. Speciation: 1.Evolution of populations with species 2. Evolutionary biologists involved in the debate over what the term means 3. Based on the word “species” 4. Signifies a small step along evolution from one basic kind to another (false) 5. Variation should be used instead 6. Changes that occur with certain characteristics Evolutionary scientists: 1. Have faith in evolution 2. Will not back down even with the lack of evidence 3. Bottom line: atheists, agnostics or Bible believers who see evolution evidence through evolutionary filters 4. Those who believe God created the world as stated in Genesis a. take Genesis and the entire Bible in faith b. Believe science confirms the Bible Special Thanks to Our Network Sponsor – CTC Math The post Biblical Creation Terminology Explained appeared first on Ultimate Homeschool Podcast Network.

  • Apr 17, 2023 · 26 min

    Truth Seekers Mystery Series for Kids (Replay)

    Truth Seekers Mystery Series Episode Join Felice Gerwitz as she interviews her co-author in the Truth Seeker’s Mystery Series, Christina (Gerwitz) Moss. Christina shares her homeschool experience and how the series evolved from an idea to three books in the series. Thanks to our sponsor, CTCMath.com – we are pleased for their continued excellence in education and dedication to the homeschool community. It is due to sponsorships that our programs continue to come to you without cost. Please visit the website and check out their curriculum. Christina began the idea of writing a novel and finally convinced her mom it was a good idea. When Felice, a non-fiction author with a publishing company, Media Angels, Inc., explained she didn’t know how to write a novel, her daughter shot back. “We are homeschoolers; we can figure it out!” And figure it out; they did. First In The Truth Seekers Mystery Series Christina’s first novel, The Missing Link Found (Book One in the Truth Seekers Mystery Series), outsold her mother’s Creation Science: A Study Guide at the convention debut. In fact, this book helped children learn about Creation science in a fun way, and in turn, they were enthusiastic about attending creation science events. Encourage Your Kids to Solve Their Own Creation Science Mystery Media Angels, Inc. offers the Creation Science Camp. Perfect for homeschool, co-op, or Christian school classroom. Each day you study one day of God’s amazing Creation! One Week of Full Activities or break it up into a longer period of time. Your choice. This digital download is a special price right now. Save 50%! If you Enjoyed this Podcast on the Mystery Series, Listen to This: The Truth Seekers Mystery Series Perfect for Summer Reading – Keys to the Past: Unlocked The post Truth Seekers Mystery Series for Kids (Replay) appeared first on Ultimate Homeschool Podcast Network.

  • Sep 11, 2019 · 19 min

    Yellowstone – Earth History

    Yellowstone National Park – A Window into Earth History Episode 22 Yellowstone is the gateway to understanding earth history, in this episode we’ll listen to Patrick Nurre as he shares information about the park and the earth. Thanks to our sponsor Media Angels, Inc and the Truth Seekers Mystery. Yellowstone National Park is America’s first national park signed into law in 1872 by U.S. Grant, 18th President of the United States. The Park is 2.2 million acres, amounting to over 3,400 square miles of forest, mountain ranges, several lakes, 10,000 thermal features, 300 waterfalls and over 300 geysers. It is a veritable laboratory for getting a window into the past geological history of Earth. It is a testament to the Genesis Flood and its aftermath. The origin of the word Yellowstone is unknown. Many think Yellowstone got its name from the altered and colored lava of the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone, most of which is colored a variety of yellow hues due to hydrothermal (or hot water) alteration within the canyon walls. Yellowstone National Park is a small part of a much larger ecosystem. This ecosystem contains the greatest amount of fossil trees in the world, the largest fresh water lake in the US at altitudes over 7,000 feet, the largest concentration of geysers in the world, a vast glacially sculpted landscape and quite possibly the largest concentrated amount of volcanic ejecta in the world to have been erupted by volcanoes (9,000 cubic miles of volcanic material). To give you an idea of just how big that is, Mt. St. Helens erupted just .25 cubic miles of volcanic material in 1980. Yellowstone is actually part of a greater volcanic feature dubbed a “supervolcano.” The main crater of Yellowstone is 45 miles long and 35 miles wide. Mt. St. Helens, by comparison, left a crater 1 mile wide and a ½ mile deep. No one knows for sure what lies underneath Yellowstone. Geologists estimate that there is initially a depth of about 1-2 miles of a special type of volcanic rock called rhyolite, produced by explosive volcanoes. In addition, the temperatures just 400-500 feet below the surface are very hot. There is no doubt that if one of these giants were to erupt today, it would have a devastating effect on our biotic globe and climate. Many geologists have proposed a sort of an ice age that would creep over several parts of our Earth. Some ask if Yellowstone will erupt again. Despite what Hollywoood says, the official park literature states that they do not expect any kind of an eruption within the next 10,000 years. The closest eruption of any magnitude in our recent Earth history was in 1815 with the eruption of Mt. Tambora in Indonesia. 1816 has been called, “The year without a summer,” as freezing temperatures, and snow and crop failure were reported in June of 1816 throughout many parts of the world. There have been many such eruptions in Earth’s geological past – the Mammoth Lakes Caldera in eastern California and the La Garita Caldera in southwest Colorado were two of the largest. What would have produced this violent volcanic eruption? The Yellowstone eruption is a bit of a mystery in modern geology. It does not fit the typical plan for volcanic activity. Scientists tell us that most of Earth’s volcanoes lie along cracks in the Earth called The Ring of Fire. These cracks are labeled as the edges of shifting plates, as modern geology describes them. But Yellowstone does not lie along any edge of a plate. It is thousands of miles from The Ring of Fire. This is also true of the Hawaiian Islands, themselves made of many volcanic eruptions. Yellowstone nevertheless is a huge crack or hole in the Earth. Many of us learned in school that volcanoes were the crucibles of creation; that our atmosphere and water and the early conditions for life on our planet came from millions of years of repeated eruptions. James Hutton, the Father of Modern Geology, in the late 1700s, viewed the Earth as having constantly recycled itself in volcanic eruptions, processes of metamorphosis and sedimentary deposition throughout untold ages. There is another way to look at this. Genesis 1 says “In the beginning, God created the space and the Earth….” This is a far different picture of Earth history. One of the best things you can do in sharpening your worldview is to read and know Genesis 1. Very few Christians who know the Scriptural presentation of origins and the global Flood that followed. In Genesis 1 a straightforward reading would tell us that the Earth was created by an all-knowing, all-powerful God, with purpose and design. And this space and Earth and everything in them were created over a period of 6 days. This would make the origin of the Earth a relatively recent event in Earth history, quite at odds with modern geology. At the end of day 6, the Scripture states, “God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.” Earth, upon its completion, seems to have been a perfect place, fashioned by the Creator for very special people – Adam and Eve. There does not seem to have been death, disease, and other crippling effects of decay. But this is not what volcanoes produce. Volcanoes produce: sulfur dioxide, hydrogen sulfide, hydrogen fluoride or hydrofluoric acid, very poisonous gases, as well as dangerous amounts of carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide, acid rain, hydrochloric acid, sulfuric acid and destruction of the ozone layer of Earth. In addition, these particles of dangerous things rise up into our atmosphere and affect our climate and disrupt our existence. For example, airports are closed and crops and animals are killed through the deposits in the form of thousands of tons of volcanic ash. All in all, volcanoes are destructive to man’s existence, not creative. Looking at things from a Biblical point of view, there is another idea to consider for the creation of volcanoes: the Genesis Flood. Genesis 7:11 very effectively describes the first day of the Genesis Flood. “In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened.” To a geologist, this historical statement should cause one to think of many different geological events. For instance, huge cracks and holes could open in the crust of the Earth with the eruption of all kinds of hot water, nasty radioactivity, and lavas, and the ripping apart of soils laid down just 1500 years earlier. All of Earth now exhibits these effects in the rocks, topographical scars, and billions of fossil creatures and plants over the entire globe. Geologists estimate that there are over 50,000 volcanoes of all kinds spread out over the surface of the Earth and on the ocean floor. Rocks and landforms that were a part of the original creation would have been changed or metamorphosed for the rest of Earth history as a reminder of the judgment of God. Only a remnant of the original creation remains. But the devastation of a global flood has left its mark as a reminder that God holds all mankind accountable for its rebellion. The Genesis Flood is the only world-wide catastrophic event in Earth history, mentioned in the Scripture, that all mankind experienced. It was not a localized judgment such as Sodom and Gomorrah. Cracks all over the ocean floor and present-day faulting and earthquakes are a testament that this global event indeed did happen. However, geologists tell us that the Yellowstone volcano erupted 640,000 years ago. How do they know this? They don’t. The age is based upon an assumed behavior of radioactivity. Radioactivity or radioactive decay can be measured in the present, but we have no idea whether this decay rate has continued unabated into the distant past. Geologists merely assume it has been constant. They assume this because they refuse to consider the Genesis Flood as anything more than myth. But if the Flood indeed did take place, as Scripture records, then all geological processes we know today would have been affected by extreme heat, alteration and mixing of materials and violent chemical reactions. So, how old is Yellowstone? From a Biblical point of view, the answer lies in historical documents, not in science. Science can only verify what it can observe, test and repeat. The Yellowstone supervolcano erupted at some point in Earth’s history. Deciphering that is a matter of examining historical documents and eyewitness accounts. The science of Yellowstone deals with excavating its fossils and identifying its rocks. But the origin of Yellowstone is a matter of history and that is the task before us. Christians have three main sources for determining the age of Yellowstone: The genealogies and chronologies of chapters 5 and 11 of Scripture The witness of Jesus Christ who quoted from the book of Genesis more than any other Old Testament book of the Bible and took all that it stated at face value The signs produced by the Creator throughout Earth history and witnessed by hundreds and in some cases thousands of people As the chronologies in Genesis chapter 5 clearly indicate that there were a little less than 1700 years from Adam to Noah, then Yellowstone cannot be any older than about 4,500 years, the date of Noah’s flood. Any evidence of a volcanic eruption prior to that would have been wiped away by the Flood. All these historical events have been recorded and preserved in our Scripture so that we might know who created us, what happened to the human race and how man can be restored to a right relationship with his creator. 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  • Mar 29, 2019 · 28 min

    A Novel Approach – Teach Creation To Kids

    Teach Creation To Kids With A Novel – Episode 16 When you teach creation to kids it can seem overwhelming, perhaps you don’t know where to begin. In this interview (listen to the first one here), author Felice Gerwitz interviews her co-author, and daughter Christina Gerwitz Moss. Christina had a passion for writing and she turned her interest in science and writing into a novel that will teach creation to kids. The Truth Seekers Mystery Series is chock full of science facts. The series was reviewed by several creation scientists and there is even a vocabulary list at the back! You can purchase the book on Amazon or via the Media Angels Membership website. Thanks to our sponsor! Homeschool Connect Expo Felice Gerwitz is presenting three video teachings and there are over 70 speakers and sponsors – sign up to get more information about upcoming events. And, thanks to our sponsors who make these episodes free! The Truth Seeker’s Mystery Series is comprised of three novels, The Missing Link Found, Dinosaur Quest at Diamond Peak and The Keys To The Past Unlocked. In each novel, the children uncover a mystery and discover different aspects of creation. It is easy to teach creation to kids when they are captivated by a story that engages and encourages discussion. Thousands of people have read the novel and the feedback has been wonderful. These novels were written when Christina was homeschooled and finished when she entered college. Now Christina is a homeschool mom and is able to teach creation to her children. Resources from Media Angels: Go deeper with the complete Creation Science for Homeschoolers guide — or explore the Creation Science Bundle. The post A Novel Approach – Teach Creation To Kids appeared first on Ultimate Homeschool Podcast Network.

  • Feb 13, 2019 · 18 min

    The Fall

    The Fall ~ The Four Great Global Events of Genesis The book of Genesis outlines four great global events, The Fall is the second. The first event, the Creation, was meant to reveal from where all mankind originated, and his purpose. The second great global event has been called the Fall. This word captures the historical and universal significance of what took place in Genesis 3. The Fall The Fall was actually a series of corruptive events and consequences that changed the way all people would relate to God, the spiritual realm, and to one another from that time forward. Genesis 1-2 makes it very clear that Adam and Eve were the first human beings on this planet, and from them all subsequent humans have descended. Consequently, the Fall is a global event. It impacted all of mankind. The Fall had eternal consequences because it took away the innocence of man and caused Adam and Eve to pass on the inclination to do evil. This resulted in physical death and eternal loss. The very first sentence of Genesis 3 sets the tone for this event: “Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made.” It is clear from this passage that something is not quite right. What is this creature doing in the garden that God had made for Adam and Eve? This creature in the garden had the ability to talk and think. No other creature had this ability. It is easy, therefore, to see how Adam and Eve could have thought that he knew more then they did, and was wise. 1 Corinthians tells us that Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. We see this very thing happening in the garden. In looking at the Fall, we notice that the first thing to happen was for the Devil to usurp God’s authority. He says, “Indeed, has God said you shall not eat from any tree of the garden?” The name, Satan means an adversary or one who resists. Only an adversary would work at cross purposes with God. The friend of God would strive to help another believe God’s words, not undermine them. In response to the devil’s challenge, Eve tells the serpent that the penalty for disobeying God was death. He responded (Gen. 3:14), “You surely will not die. For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” So the devil’s tactics in Genesis 3 were: To attempt to twist God’s word Contradict God’s word Offer an alternative to God’s word – his own opinion. Make his own opinion appealing by casting doubt on God’s character. This theme appears again and again in history. Ephesians 6:16 says, “in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming missiles of the evil one.” The word faith (or believe) means to trust. As the serpent throws missiles over the walls we have set up, above all, we are to take up believing in God’s word so that those missiles can be extinguished. Not trusting and listening to God’s word was the beginning of the Fall. The Second Stage of The Fall The second stage of the Fall took place shortly after this, an enlightenment of sorts. Gen. 3:7 says, “Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin coverings.” This enlightenment that was brought to them resulted in shame, guilt, and fear, and they attempted to cover their sin. Like this enlightenment, the Enlightenment of the 1700-1800s, brought great breakthroughs in medicine and science. But this Enlightenment was also very similar to what happened in the garden. Science began to take over the role of revealing things that really could not be known by science – the age of the earth, the age of dinosaurs, the age of rock layers, the origin of man, and so on. For the last 250 years, science has dominated the historical and philosophical realm, in addition to its own realm. It has taken the place of what God had revealed to us in His Scriptures. This has led to disastrous acts and events. For instance, the ideas of evolution and naturalism brought us the horrors of WW II. Nazis and Japanese rationalized their brutal treatment of people because they thought that they were the superior race. Evolution, part of the offspring of the Enlightenment, was the root of our modern thinking about races. The Fall tore mankind away from his creator and the relationship for which man and woman were created. The Fall brought: Fear, guilt and shame Distrust of God’sword Blaming those closet to us for shortcomings Superstition and religious worship of other gods Hatred of others not like me Self-centeredness and greed Pain, sorrow, and death Broken relationships Broken promises War Nothing good has come from breaking free from our Creator. The Fall so ruined man that it took God to set it right again in the person of His Son, Jesus Christ, who took the penalty that we rightly deserved for our rebellion. Rom 5:6, 18-19 says, “For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly…So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men. For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.” Recommended resources for this podcast would be Genesis Rock Solid and Bedrock Geology. Genesis Rock Solid The Kit Bedrock Rock The Book Special Thanks to Our Network Sponsor -Bright Ideas Press Homeschool moms are busy! Bright Ideas Press gets that. And that’s why, for over 25 years, we have promised to publish Christian-oriented homeschool curriculum that will fit your family—curriculum that is both affordable and easy-to-use with children of different ages and learning styles at the same time. Curriculum that busy Moms love! Offering history, science, geography, and humanities curriculum and over 100 options of online classes and clubs for homeschool families, the team at Bright Ideas Press creates products and resources that will not only help simplify your life, but also inspire, encourage, and equip you to educate your children. Find out more here! Resources from Media Angels: Go deeper with the complete Creation Science for Homeschoolers guide — or explore the Creation Science Bundle. The post The Fall appeared first on Ultimate Homeschool Podcast Network.

  • Nov 28, 2018 · 19 min

    Story In The Rocks

    The Story in the Rocks Episode 10 Story in the Rocks | Patrick Nurre shares the story in the rocks in today’s’ episode. Below find the show notes, and also a set you can also download a set. | #podcast #creationpodcast NorthwestRockAndFossil.com Northwest Treasures, Geology NorthwestRockAndFossil.com Find them on social media here: Facebook – Geology by Northwest Treasurers Pinterest – Geology by Northwest Treasurers Here is the handout in an easy to download format. Below are the show notes as well. The Story in the Rocks Introduction: Secular scientists tell us that the rocks are like the pages of a history book that can only be read by those trained in modern geology. The rocks do tell a story, but you must start from a correct historical perspective of the history of Earth. Until the mid to late 1700’s those who studied nature were called naturalists. Their study sprang from the Creation story and the Genesis Flood as told in scripture. Newton and Galileo used this approach. Nicolas Steno, one of the first to study geology, followed this. His rules are still taught today. What about radiometric dating being used to date rocks and bones? Consider this: Radioactivity was discovered in 1897. The first radiometric age of the earth was calculated in 1917. But modern geology had already established early ages for the earth over 100 years before radiometric dating. So those who established these early ages in the 1800s were guessing. Since radiometric dating was first developed, many problems have surfaced with it. Numerous articles have been written about these problems. How old are the rocks, fossils, and the earth? What is the story in the rocks? These questions can’t be resolved by science, (observation, testing, and repetition of tests). And even before we answer these, we need a starting point. There are two starting points, and both are philosophies. One is the Bible. The other came from the Enlightenment, a movement in the 18th and 19th centuries. It was a breakaway from the traditions of the church, the Bible, and miracles. Everything was to be studied apart from these. The historicity of the Scriptures was rejected, even though there was no sound reason for doing this. The starting point for this second view was an idea called, uniformitarianism. It rejected a young Earth and a global flood, and said, instead, that the geology we observe now shaped the earth over immensely long periods of time. James Hutton considered the Father of Modern Geology, promoted this. This is the only view that is accepted in our modern educational institutions. So how old are the rocks and fossils? This must be answered from a historical framework. Uniformitarianism is limited in its ability to address this historically since the history of observation in uniformitarianism is limited to the past two hundred years. But the Bible records a global geological event that took place 4500 years ago. Let’s apply the Biblical concept to the rocks. Volcanic rocks: These are the only rocks we see forming. They spew out dangerous gases and cause destruction. They would not have been a part of the original, very good creation. Volcanoes would fit in Gen. 7:11 when the fountains of the great deep burst open. Granitic rocks: Nobody has seen them form, but the consensus is that they are the foundation rocks of Earth. Biblical history would have them created within the first few days of the creation week. Metamorphic rocks (changed rocks): Nobody has seen these form. Biblical history would fit them in Gen. 7:11. Sediments produced at this time as well as foundation rocks would have been changed through heat and pressure as these rocks ground against each other, consequently rearranging the minerals into new patterns. Limestone could have changed into marble, sandstone into quartzite, granite into gneiss. Fossils (found in sedimentary rocks): These are explained by a catastrophic flood. Muddy sediments would have quickly buried billions of creatures and plants, preserving examples of the pre-flood world. And we now know that it does not take millions of years to form a fossil, but the right chemical environment. Conclusion: The rocks and fossils tell a story, from the creation of elements to the destruction of the earth in a year-long, global flood. It is clearly seen in the evidence. Resources from Media Angels: Go deeper with the complete Creation Science for Homeschoolers guide — or explore the Creation Geology Study Guide. The post Story In The Rocks appeared first on Ultimate Homeschool Podcast Network.

  • Sep 30, 2018 · 27 min

    What Happened To The Dinosaurs

    For Kids! What Happened To The Dinosaurs? Episode 7 To understand a bit about what happened to the Dinosaurs, it is best to begin in Genesis. Understanding how man sinned shows us that the Garden of Eden a haven for Adam and Eve and all the animals became a world far from perfection. Then along came Noah! He was a righteous man and he saved the animals at the time of The Flood. While some think the flood was only in specific areas of the world, this is not true! You can find more information about Flood Geology in the book Creation Geology a Study Guide to Fossils, Formations & The Flood. The Flood was worldwide, the podcast contains information about some of the ways we know this. The Ark design was unique (Genesis 6:14-16) There was room for 2 of each animal, food and storage, Noah and his family. The ark design is one of the most stable of any boat. When God said He wanted Noah to take two of each kind, what does it mean? A “kind” is not a “species.” For example, a “dog kind,” includes dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc. What Happened To The Dinosaurs? Where are the dinosaurs? Dinosaurs were believed to be on the ark. Juvenile dinosaurs were onboard and the average size of the dinosaur was the size of a small chicken. So, for all those skeptics, yes – dinosaurs were on the ark! When the rains stopped and the flood waters receded, 150 days later the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat. The mountains became visible in the tenth month. Before the Flood, the earth was warmer. It is believed there was more carbon dioxide in the air that made the plants and animals grow bigger (and people lived longer). There are many plants and animals found in the fossil record that did not survive the flood. What Happened to the Dinosaurs? After the flood, many plants and animals died and the dinosaurs and other large creatures could not live in the reduced atmosphere or without some of the plants that did not survive, so they became extinct. Many plants and animals were buried rapidly which caused fossils. Fossils are often found in groups. The rocks showed the catastrophic deposits with large scale erosion into the newly deepened oceans. There was also a post-flood Ice Age. Geologic formations formed and the rapid burial showed that many fossils found were not commonly found together in nature. The Fossils were only preserved when they are rapidly buried. Resources from Media Angels: Go deeper with the complete Creation Science for Homeschoolers guide — or explore the Creation Geology Study Guide. The post What Happened To The Dinosaurs appeared first on Ultimate Homeschool Podcast Network.

  • Jun 29, 2018 · 31 min

    Biblical Creation Terminology

    Biblical Creation Terminology In order to have an intelligent discussion, you must understand the terms. Biblical Creation terminology is the focus of this podcast. Thanks to Media Angels Membership website featuring Creation Science Unit Studies for an unbelievable price~MediaAngelsMembership.com Biblical Creation vs. Evolution: A quick definition of Biblical Creation begins with the Creator God. A Creator God began the world with His Word. Genesis 1:1: “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.” Evolution – by definition is a change over time, it is a two-step process. 1. The theory that life began spontaneously on its own 2. Darwin’s theory of simple life evolving into more complex The terminology is confusing. Terminology is everything. “He who defines the term wins.” What is in a word? Creation: 1. Creation science 2. Biblical Creation 3. Old Earth Creationist Evolution: 1. Macro Evolution 2. Convergent Evolution 3. Darwinism 4. Neo-Darwinism 5. Old Earth 6. Theistic Evolution God created the world with His Word. Genesis 1:1 Do you believe that God created? It is a matter of faith, evidence points to a Creator. Intelligent Design: An “Intelligent” Designer began the world Science points to order not disorder Evolution does not make sense in regard to life beginning by accident The Designer could be: 1. God (for Christians) 2. Aliens 3. Unknown Adaptation: Scientists are conflicted and confused when discussing this aspect of evolution. The idea that traits are inherited by use and disuse are unscientific. The theory is that an organism adapts or alters according to certain genetic limits or due to circumstances. Creationists do believe that adaptation does happen within certain generic limits. Adaptation happens within a kind. For example, there are different kinds of dogs, cats, finch, etc. However, dogs remain dogs. New creatures or new features are never observed through adaptation. Speciation: 1.Evolution of populations with species 2. Evolutionary biologists involved in the debate over what the term means 3. Based on the word “species” 4. Signifies a small step along evolution from one basic kind to another (false) 5. Variation should be used instead 6. Changes that occur with certain characteristics Evolutionary scientists: 1. Have faith in evolution 2. Will not back down even with the lack of evidence 3. Bottom line: atheists, agnostics or Bible believers who see evolution evidence through evolutionary filters 4. Those who believe God created the world as stated in Genesis a. take Genesis and the entire Bible in faith b. Believe science confirms the Bible Special Thanks to Our Network Sponsor – Well Planned Gal Rebecca from the Well Planned Gal understands the challenges of working within a budget, managing multiple children, and trying to keep up with a variety of information. That is why she created popular planner bundles! Combine organizational tools with year long encouragement by bundling Well Planned Day planners with the popular Family Magazine. For a limited time, Save 30% with one of her popular planner bundles. Each bundle contains 2 planner products with a one-year subscription to Family Magazine. Click Here to Go to Well Planned Gal The post Biblical Creation Terminology appeared first on Ultimate Homeschool Podcast Network.

  • Apr 24, 2018 · 39 min

    Creation Matters

    Does Creation Matter? Why does the discussion on how God created the world matter? Did God really create the world in six days and rest on the seventh? Does anyone really care? These questions and many more including teaching tips and great resources are presented in the Creation Science Podcast, my name is Felice Gerwitz and it is my pleasure and honor to be your host. Don’t forget to subscribe to this podcast! Do that here: SUBSCRIBE Sponsored by Media Angels, Inc. Vist the membership site for great deals! This podcast was an original work of the Creation Science Expo that I had the pleasure of hosting some years back, it is my pleasure to re-release it to you and share the importance of caring about our origins. Many times I’ve discussed the purpose of having a creationist perspective, and people would say, “Why do you care?” The reason I care is that I want my children to grow up with a Christian worldview and share that with their children, someday. In the writing of my Truth Seekers Mystery Series book, I had a “God-incident” that I share in this episode. In a nutshell, I was rushed during the Christmas season and wanted nothing to do with the rereading of the draft copy of one of the novels. You see, as a novelist, and co-novelist at the (along with my then, college-aged daughter, Christina), I was the one in charge of final proofreading and I kept finding mistakes. I was frustrated. I threw up a heavenward prayer, “God are you sure you have the right person doing this job?” And, I wasn’t talking about the job of editing, I was talking about the job of being the “hands and feet” of God – spreading the word about the fallacies of evolutionary claims. Which these novels demonstrate in a fun-easy to read and mystery adventure. More about the TruthSeekersMysterySeries.com here. Heading to a store to do last minute shopping, I happened upon a calling card placed in a nativity scene I was about to purchase. (The audio includes details about this, but here is the visual — a copy of the card: Listen to the podcast for the rest of the story! Be sure and check out our blog, HomeforLearning where you’ll find helpful science posts: Do I Really Need to Teach Science in My Homeschool? Teaching Science | Unit Study How and What to Teach with Science and visit our Creation Science Podcast page. The post Creation Matters appeared first on Ultimate Homeschool Podcast Network.

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