Conversations

ABC Australia

Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption.

Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling.

Conversations Live is coming to the stage! Join Sarah Kanowski and Richard Fidler for an unmissable night of unforgettable stories, behind-the-scenes secrets, and surprise guests. Australia’s most-loved podcast — live, up close, and in the moment. Find out more at the Conversations website.

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June 9 · 52 min
Encore: The remarkable life of Professor Richard Scolyer
The former Australian of the Year and pioneering cancer researcher, died from brain cancer on Sunday evening. Richard was a world-leading melanoma pathologist and cancer researcher. After his own aggressive brain cancer was diagnosed in 2023, Richard volunteered to be 'patient zero' in an experimental medical approach, which applied some of the discoveries he and his team had made in melanoma treatment. Richard credited much of his determination, optimism, and humility, to his childhood in T
June 8 · 51 min
How Japanese spirituality can help make everyday life more beautiful
Growing up in Tokyo, Hiroko Yoda never thought of herself as religious, but after her mother died, she began exploring the spiritual traditions of her homeland. She was inspired by the Shinto idea that there are '8 million spiritual beings', animating everything we encounter. In the different practices of Shintoism, Buddhism, and Shugendo, Hiroko found practical means of emotional support, and also ways of making her everyday life more beautiful. Further information Hiroko Yoda's book is ca
June 5 · 51 min
Hip Hop, home, and humanity—'trials' on reckoning with his origin story
Dan Rankine (aka 'trials') was the only little Aboriginal boy living in his rural Welsh village when he woke up shaking from a nightmare. That's when he and his mother knew they needed to go home to Adelaide. Dan is now one of Australia's most respected hip hop producers, writers and rappers. Born in Adelaide, Dan spent his early years on the other side of the world - in the rolling, green hills of rural Wales - with his mum, who had fled there from Dan's violent father in the middle of the ni
June 4 · 52 min
Learning from the mighty matriarchs of the animal kingdom
Erna Walraven was one of the first female zookeepers to work at Sydney's Taronga Zoo in the 1980s. She ignored practical jokes from her male colleagues, like animal dung in her gumboots, and this led to career highlights like travelling the globe to select the zoo's next gorilla patriarch. (R) Erna was born in The Netherlands, to parents who were involved in the Dutch resistance during World War II. Erna's love of languages took her to Spain, where she lived for many years with her widowed
June 3 · 53 min
Brooke Boney quit her ideal job to pursue her secret dream
The Gamilaroi journalist on the tiny coalmining town that made her and still sustains her, how eating worms led to a job on breakfast TV, and why she's aiming to be a good ancestor in the deep future. Brooke grew up in Muswellbrook, a coal mining town in NSW. She was a smart, high-achieving kid, doing every extra-curricular activity she could fit in. Despite this, she dropped out of high school and didn't finish her education. After a couple of lost years, a kind boyfriend introduced Brooke
June 2 · 52 min
Encore: Australia's TV mum Noni Hazlehurst on her life on stage and screen
The much loved actor has been on Australian TV screens and theatres for nearly 50 years. (R) Noni Hazlehurst comes from a long line of performers, her parents met while they were part of a touring Variety act in the UK, and her great grandfather was a famous child trapeze artist. Keeping children company on Playschool was one of her best known roles, which she had for 24 years. In Noni’s day, Playschool was recorded in one take, unless one of the presenters swore or was bitten by a rabbit.
June 1 · 53 min
'Angertainment', algorithms and the online outrage industry
Political advisor Ed Coper on the cold-blooded machine that is feeding angry people angry content online to make them even angrier, and what we can do about it. Ed Coper is a political advisor and communications consultant who has worked for the Australian Labor Party, and for progressive lobby groups. Over the past few years, he has noticed what everyone else has - people on both sides of the divide becoming increasingly vocal and angry about their politics online. While there's no shortage
May 29 · 52 min
Luke Bateman on surviving a gambling addiction and the magic of his mum’s love
The former Canberra Raiders player on hiding his fantasy reading habits as a kid in Western Queensland, the joy of doing hard things, and how books brought him back from the brink. Warning: Discussion of suicide. Luke was a sensitive kid, growing up on a cattle station in Western Queensland. He loved being transported by fantasy novels — following the quests, battles and magic they offered him. Luke found release in these books, beyond the hard work and zipped lips of the strong men he saw a
May 28 · 51 min
How a teen father used the local skate park to change the world
Jayden Sheridan was just 17 years old when he found out he was going to be a father, and immediately Jayden knew he needed to give his son better opportunities than he ever had growing up in regional Victoria. (R) In Seymour, which is one of the most disadvantaged postcodes in Australia, Jayden experienced homelessness, substance abuse, violence and a general lack of direction. He had no male role models in his life, but he did have the local skate park. It's where he went to feel safe and t
May 27 · 52 min
Jimmy Wales says it is possible to have a collaborative, trusting world online
The Wikipedia co-founder has developed seven rules for building trust to create a better world, both on the internet and IRL. Growing up in Huntsville, Alabama, Jimmy was enamoured with his family's Encyclopaedia Britannica. The city was home to NASA's Marshall Space Flight Centre, and the energy of the place gave a young Jimmy a robust enthusiasm for technology and the future. As a young man, Jimmy developed the idea to start a free, online encyclopaedia, built by strangers and shared acr
May 26 · 53 min
Changing prisoners' minds with Vedic meditation at Rikers Island
Joh Jarvis was a high-flying boss when grief from a terrible loss began to overwhelm her. She tried therapy, exercise and healthy eating. Then she found Vedic meditation, and the experience was 'psychedelic'. (R) Joh Jarvis is a Vedic meditation teacher in New York City. On a regular basis Joh travels to the notorious Rikers Island Prison in the Bronx. There, she teaches meditation to men waiting on remand. Inside a prison which is often violent and chaotic, she aims to give them a new way o
May 25 · 52 min
Patrick Radden Keefe digs into the mysterious death of a man posing as a Russian oligarch's son
Staff writer at The New Yorker, Patrick Radden Keefe tells the story of Zac Brettler, who inexplicably changed from a charming and hilarious boy into a money- and status-obsessed young man, who mixed with gangsters and shady businessmen. Patrick's new book begins with the description of a scene that was picked up by a surveillance camera in London in the early hours of a November morning in 2019. The footage showed a grainy image of a shadowy figure, anxiously moving about the balcony of a lux
May 22 · 47 min
Special Collection: Alain de Botton on the true hardwork of love and relationships
The philosopher argues that as a culture, we'd be happier and saner if we re-examined our view of love, because our romantic notions can actually work against the relationships we want most. (R) Alain De Botton's novel from 2016 called The Course of Love challenges many assumptions about falling in love and what comes next. Alain first tackled the subject when he wrote Essays of Love in his early 20s. The episode of Conversations was first broadcast in 2016 The producer was Michelle Ransom-H
May 21 · 47 min
Special Collection: Transforming trauma with Gabor Mate
The renowned physician discusses the role of trauma in our lives, showing up as addiction, chronic disease and mental illness, and how recognising his own led to true healing. (R) Dr Gabor Maté was born in Budapest to a Jewish family, just before Nazi tanks rolled into the city. His mother risked handing him to a stranger on the street to try and get him to safety. Many years later, after establishing himself as a successful physician in Canada, Gabor looked at the problems in his work and ma
May 20 · 48 min
Special Collection: How I made peace with my mother and our complicated relationship
Diana Nguyen's mother would walk out of her performances at interval in protest of her career, but Diana forged on and in the process healed this mother-daughter relationship. (R) Diana Nguyen knew she was born for a life on the stage when she discovered dancing while staying in a nunnery as a child. Her love affair with the arts, however, fractured her relationship with her mother, who had escaped Vietnam by boat and wanted her eldest daughter to be 'more' than a performer. But a trip to
May 19 · 50 min
Special Collection: An unexpected later in life love story
At 48, Bill Hayes moved to New York. He took up photography, and never anticipated the surprise of falling in love with his neighbour, Dr Oliver Sacks, a neurologist, a naturalist and a university professor. (R) Doctor Oliver Sacks became famous for writing case histories of his patients in books, including The Man Who Mistook his Wife for a Hat, and An Anthropologist on Mars. At 75 years old, Oliver had never been in a relationship, until he fell deeply in love with his neighbour Bill Hayes
May 18 · 52 min
Special Collection: The teenage TV star who feels 'lucky to be paraplegic'
Louise Philip had just scored her breakout role on Australian television, in Bellbird, when a horrific car crash threatened to derail the life she was forging for herself. (R) Louise was 15 years old when she convinced her parents to let her drop out of high school to become an actress. She had just scored her breakout role on Australian television, but within a few months a terrible car crash threatened to derail the life that she was forging for herself. Louise broke her back and permanent
May 15 · 52 min
Lindy Lee on how Zen Buddhism changed her life and art
As a little girl growing up in Brisbane in the era of the White Australia policy, Lindy lived through the pain of always feeling different but then she began using it as fuel for her art. (R) It took her many years to find the power in what she calls the 'tearing' in her identity. She began to make work based on her own family story, and her Zen practice. Lindy is now one of Australia's leading contemporary artists. This episode of Conversations was first broadcast in 2022
May 14 · 51 min
Encore: My parents died in a plane crash and what came next
At 25, Peter Goers lost both of his parents after the commercial plane they were travelling in crashed into a suburb of New Orleans shortly after take off. Suddenly, he was required to drop everything to fly to America and identify their bodies, he also spent time the relatives of the other 143 passengers that died in the tragedy. For many years Peter's reaction to losing his parents was expressed through a reckless regard for his own life, before finally learning how to live with himself and
May 13 · 53 min
The secret obsession of a Supreme Court Justice
For 45 years, George Palmer harboured a secret. He spent every spare moment composing classical music, and then shoving his scores in his bottom drawer. Until one day, almost by pure chance, that music saw the light of day. As a young man, George had dreams of becoming a renowned classical music composer, but when he walked into university, he didn't feel like he belonged in the music department. George left after his first week, and followed a school friend into the law department. At first,