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Church Planting 2.0

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Church Planting 2.0 is the podcast for pastors, church planters, and ministry leaders who want practical strategies that actually work.

Hosted by Jeff Hoglen of ChurchPlanting.com, this podcast delivers real-world insights on church planting, leadership, discipleship, outreach, preaching, church systems, volunteer culture, and ministry growth.

No hype. No fluff. Just practical tools, honest conversations, and proven strategies to help you build healthy churches and develop strong leaders.

Practical insights. Proven strategies. Real church stories.

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  • weekly
  • Avg 12 min
  • English
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  • September 4 · 10 min

    Why People Leave Your Church — And What to Do About It

    Most churches are great at noticing who walks in and terrible at noticing who quietly slips out. Jeff Hoglen exposes the hidden “back door” problem that makes churches look healthy on the surface while people slowly drift away. If you lead a church, serve on staff, or care about real discipleship, this episode gives you a practical framework for spotting drift before it becomes disappearance. Jeff unpacks why church growth without relationship becomes a revolving door, and why Sunday attendance alone can never be the whole strategy. You’ll discover: Why attraction is not the same as discipleship How to recognize the early signs that someone is disengaging The difference between healthy departures and painful drift Why baptism is not graduation, but the beginning of the real work How connection, discipleship, and care form a simple pathway that helps people stay rooted Jeff also challenges leaders to rethink how they respond when someone leaves. Instead of defaulting to guilt or blame, he makes the case for humble self-examination, better communication, and pastoral care that notices people before they vanish. He shows how a simple check-in can reveal burnout, hurt, hidden struggles, or even a need to reconnect someone who thought nobody noticed. This conversation is a wake-up call for any church that wants to do more than count people. Because if you only celebrate arrivals and ignore departures, you can end up with a busy church that never actually grows deeper. The real goal is not filling seats - it is helping people follow Jesus, put down roots, and eventually help someone else do the same. Essential listening if you want a healthier church culture, stronger discipleship, and a clearer picture of what it really means to grow.

  • August 28 · 12 min

    How to Grow a Small Church Without Chasing Numbers

    How to Grow a Small Church Without Chasing Numbers What if your church is growing in all the ways that matter, but you keep missing it because you only track attendance? Jeff Hoglen makes the case that healthy growth is not about bigger crowds, but about deeper discipleship, stronger leadership, and wider gospel impact. If you pastor a small church, lead a ministry, or feel stuck comparing your congregation to bigger and flashier churches, this episode gives you a better way to measure what God is actually doing. Jeff breaks down a practical three-part framework for growth that helps you care about numbers without being ruled by them. You’ll discover: Why attendance is only one small piece of the picture The difference between growth and health How to know if people are becoming real disciples Why small churches often have an advantage in discipleship The leadership ceiling that hits when everything depends on the pastor How simple systems protect growth instead of replacing mission What to do if 25 new people show up next Sunday Why “growing wider” still matters, even in a smaller church Jeff also challenges the dangerous habit of measuring your church against someone else’s public success, and shows how comparison can quietly create private insecurity. Instead, he offers a healthier lens for celebrating wins that don’t always show up in Instagram posts - new leaders developed, believers growing in Scripture and prayer, volunteers becoming ministry leaders, and people stepping into maturity. This episode is a wake-up call for pastors who are tempted to chase bigger numbers at the expense of deeper health. If you want a church that is more faithful, more effective, and better equipped to make disciples for the long haul, this conversation belongs on your list. Perfect for small church pastors, church planters, and ministry leaders who want to pursue growth without losing sight of what growth actually means. ChurchPlanting.com — https://churchplanting.com/ JeffHoglen.com — https://jeffhoglen.com/ Facebook — Jeff Hoglen — https://www.facebook.com/drjeffhoglen/ Facebook — ChurchPlanting.com — https://www.facebook.com/churchplanting/ LinkedIn — Jeff Hoglen — https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffhoglen Spotify — Church Planting 2.0 — https://open.spotify.com/show/03iuUdaFMho58woqRDzoxd Apple Podcasts — Church Planting 2.0 — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/church-planting-2-0/id1601674484

  • August 20 · 8 min

    The 3 Questions Every Church Planter Must Answer Before Launch

    Most church plants start with the wrong question. The better one is brutally simple: why does this church need to exist? Jeff Hoglen shows how that single shift can expose bad motives, clarify your mission, and completely change how you launch. If you're planting a church, building a core team, or trying to figure out whether your idea is actually needed, this episode gives you a sharper filter than attendance goals, launch timelines, or branding strategy ever could. Jeff unpacks the mistake of starting with ambition, the trap of planting for “market gaps,” and why a church that cannot answer what the community loses if it never exists may not be ready to plant at all. You'll discover: why “I feel called” is not enough how to identify the real people your church is meant to reach the difference between demographic targeting and actual pastoral burden what brokenness in a community should shape your plant the question that cuts through ego, hype, and vague vision: what happens if we don't plant? Jeff also lays out a practical framework for testing your church's reason to exist by asking three hard questions: who are we supposed to reach, what's actually broken, and what changes if we never launch? Once those answers get clear, everything else gets simpler - messaging, team decisions, preaching, groups, and who you hire all flow from the mission instead of guesswork. This is the episode that will challenge church planters to stop building around personal dreams and start building around real need. Essential listening if you want a launch that matters, a team that believes in the mission, and a church that exists for more than just another Sunday option. Key topics Jeff Hoglen opens with the central question: Why does this church need to exist? He explains why church planting often starts in the wrong place, especially when driven by personal ambition like wanting to preach or lead. He warns against planting because there is a perceived market gap, such as being the only contemporary or Reformed church in an area. He reframes church planting around real people and real needs, not demographic targets or business-style growth logic. Jeff asks what is actually broken in the community, including isolation, family stress, injustice, and spiritual confusion. He argues that success should be measured by what the community would lose if the church never existed, not just attendance, launch timing, or self-sustainability. He offers a simple framework for discernment: He emphasizes that clarity about purpose makes everything else simpler, including messaging, team building, preaching, and group structure. He closes by urging core teams to wrestle honestly with the church’s reason for existence before moving ahead. Timestamps (00:00) Why asking if a church should exist is more important than how to launch it (01:02) The problem with starting from ambition and personal calling (02:27) Why market-gap thinking is the wrong foundation for church planting (03:39) Measuring success by attendance instead of community impact (04:37) Question 1 - Who are we actually supposed to reach? (05:36) Question 2 - What is broken in this community? (06:19) Question 3 - What happens if we do not plant? (06:51) Why clarity of purpose simplifies every part of the plant (07:50) The conversation every core team needs to have (08:40) A good launch strategy cannot replace a real reason to exist For more information and church planting resources, visit: churchplanting.com #churchplanting #churchplanter #newchurch

  • August 14 · 19 min

    The Plateau Problem: Why Churches Get Stuck at 200 (And How to Break Through)

    Your church may not have a growth problem - it may have a systems problem. If you’re stuck around 150 to 200 in attendance, Jeff Hoglen shows why that plateau is so common, what’s actually breaking behind the scenes, and the specific shifts that can help a church break through. Jeff unpacks the real reason so many healthy churches stall at the 200 barrier: one pastor carrying too much, informal follow-up that stops working, and a service experience that silently tells visitors, “we’re full.” This is not a diagnosis of failure - it’s a roadmap for what changes when a church outgrows its current structure. You’ll discover: Why church growth happens in phases, not a straight line The leadership bottleneck that shows up between 150 and 200 Why assimilation has to become intentional, not accidental How a full sanctuary and crowded parking lot can repel new people without anyone meaning to The three shifts that matter most: distributed leadership, systems, and multiplication Jeff also shares the practical Monday-morning steps every plateaued church can take: audit your reality, identify the real bottleneck, build a clear visitor pathway, and fix the service experience through fresh eyes. He challenges leaders to stop relying on heroic effort and start building a team and a process that can actually scale. Perfect for pastors, church planters, and ministry leaders who know they’re called to reach more people but feel stuck in the same ceiling. If your church has outgrown the old way of doing things, this episode will help you see the next move - and why the 200 barrier is not the end, but an invitation to change. Recommended Reading/Sources: Lyle E. Schaller, "The Very Large Church" LifeWay Research, "The State of Church Assimilation" Ed Stetzer & Mike Dodson - Comeback Churches: How 300 Churches Turned Around and Yours Can, Too Michael Flether - Empowering Leadership: How a Leadership Development Culture Builds Better Leaders Faster Craig Groeschel, "Lead Like It Matters" churchplanting.com

  • August 7 · 12 min

    Church Planting Myths Costing You Time, Money, and Momentum

    This episode breaks down five common assumptions church planters hear repeated as if they were facts, then tests them against actual research. Jeff Hoglen focuses on what really predicts church plant survival, growth, and long-term health, so planters can stop building strategy around myths and start building around what works. Key topics In this episode: why the long repeated claim that 80% of church plants fail does not hold up against available research Jeff Hoglen explains that survival rates in the data are much higher than the myth suggests, with more than 90% still going after two years, 81% after three, and over 86% surviving past year four in recent NAMB numbers Myth 1: preaching well will bring people and keep them there Myth 2: launch Sunday determines the future Myth 3: you need more money before you can plant Myth 4: growth equals health Myth 5: discipleship happens naturally The closing challenge is practical: identify the one myth shaping your church plan and replace it with a real system this week Systems over assumptions Launch is the starting line, not the finish line Money multiplies what already exists Growth is not the same as health Discipleship must be designed Timestamps(00:00) Why church planting myths matter more than most planters think (00:30) The false 80 percent church plant failure statistic (01:00) Real survival data from researchers and denominational tracking (02:29) Why bad assumptions waste time, money, and energy (02:57) Myth 1: Why preaching alone does not determine church plant success (03:55) Assessment, coaching, and support systems as predictors of survival (04:43) Preaching still matters, but it is not the whole system (05:45) Myth 2: Why launch Sunday is not the finish line (06:14) Why week two attendance drops are normal, not catastrophic (07:10) Building the follow-up system before launch (07:40) Myth 3: Why needing more money can become a delay tactic (08:06) What funding does and does not correlate with (08:47) Money cannot guarantee spiritual fruit or growth momentum (10:08) Myth 4: Why growth is not the same as health (10:40) Transfer growth and the danger of misleading metrics (12:14) Measuring conversions and baptisms instead of just attendance (12:46) Myth 5: Why discipleship does not happen automatically (13:16) The lack of intentional discipleship plans in many churches (14:15) Building a discipleship pathway from day one (15:05) Recap of all five myths and the weekly challenge (16:04) Closing encouragement for church plantersKey frameworks churchplanting.com This episode is packed with practical, research-backed reality checks for planters, pastors, and church leaders who need to stop building on assumptions. If you’re preparing to launch, feeling behind, or wondering whether your strategy is actually working, this conversation will help you reset what matters most. Essential listening if you want to build a church that lasts, not just one that looks successful on week one.

  • July 31 · 15 min

    Why Ministry Experience Is More Valuable Than Ever in the AI Age

    Discover why lived ministry experience surpasses information and models in leadership. Jeff Hoglen explores how sharing real stories of failure and success can uniquely equip emerging leaders and strengthen churches. In this episode:The limitations of AI and information in ministry today · Why experience cannot be replaced by technology or data · The importance of sharing failures and lessons learned · How to turn ministry stories into teaching tools · The value of honesty, tension, and reflection in stories · How experience fosters wisdom and decision-making · Practical advice for seasoned leaders mentoring younger pastors · Developing future leaders through shared stories and lessons Timestamps: 00:00 - The value of lived ministry experience over information or models 00:32 - The rise of AI and the diminishing value of information alone 01:03 - Why experience provides irreplaceable insights and lessons 01:32 - The importance of sharing failure stories, not just success 02:01 - Real-life moments technology cannot replicate 02:30 - How experience helps navigate conflict, trust, and disappointment 03:01 - Sharing process and lessons behind principles 03:31 - The power of honesty and transparency in ministry stories 04:01 - Using stories to teach about over-promising and pressure 04:28 - Mistakes, failures, and the wisdom they bring 04:58 - Living long enough to see principles in action 05:26 - Recognizing signs of burnout, pressure, and growth challenges 05:43 - Why books prepare, but experience teaches complexity 06:11 - The need for interpretation and guidance for younger leaders 06:40 - The importance of sharing failures responsibly 07:11 - How to tell stories that help without exposing others unethically 07:40 - The impact of stories on decision-making and ministry health 08:10 - Teaching through personal stories about promotion and outreach 08:39 - The importance of context and understanding pressure 08:54 - How stories illustrate principles more powerfully than rules 09:03 - Recognizing and avoiding common leadership pitfalls 09:32 - Using stories to promote reflection and learning 09:40 - How stories can prevent recurring mistakes 09:54 - Turning past experiences into preparation for others 10:44 - The importance of honesty and transparency in storytelling 11:15 - The significance of identifying tension in ministry stories 11:29 - Embracing the hard truths to connect with others’ challenges 11:59 - Explaining lessons learned through real-life situations 12:28 - Clarifying and emphasizing the moral of the story 12:51 - The power of stories to help others recognize their own situations 12:59 - How to effectively communicate the significance of your experience 13:29 - The importance of sharing what went wrong and what was learned 13:35 - Identifying long-term impacts of decisions 13:54 - How honest reflection shapes wiser future choices 14:14 - Using stories to inform and prepare the next generation 14:26 - The benefits of early, honest conversations with emerging leaders 14:30 - The role of mentorship and storytelling in leadership development 14:59 - Leaders’ responsibility to share lessons learned the hard way 15:27 - Questions to ask experienced leaders for wisdom 15:56 - Stories reveal how principles were formed and applied 16:26 - The rarity and value of true wisdom in ministry 16:56 - Faithfulness, mistakes, and conversations as sources of wisdom 17:25 - How to incorporate stories into coaching and teaching 17:53 - The unique advantage of experiential wisdom over AI-driven data 18:18 - Sharing stories to develop future leaders within the church 18:46 - The importance of honesty and transparency with the next generation 19:15 - Final encouragement to keep learning, sharing, and mentoring churchplanting.com Open Arms International MInstries Jeff Hoglen

  • July 24 · 16 min

    5 Systems That Predict Whether Your Church Plant Survives

    In this episode, Jeff Hoglen dives into five essential systems that determine the long-term sustainability of your church plant, far beyond the initial launch hype. Discover how small, unglamorous practices can be the difference between survival and exponential growth. KEY TOPICS • Why most church plants fail to reproduce after five years and the importance of systems over events • The significance of a rapid guest follow-up system within 24-48 hours and its impact on retention • Building a discipleship pathway that leads to real spiritual transformation, not just attendance • Developing a leadership pipeline early to ensure future elders and pastors are raised up • Creating an effective volunteer pipeline to engage and retain new volunteers sustainably • The importance of cultivating a sending culture instead of a keeping culture for church multiplication • The concept of bus factor in church leadership and how to prevent burnout and critical dependency • How to implement these systems from the start and build longevity into your church plant <|TIMESTAMPS|> 00:00 - The real indicator of your church plant's longevity: systems not launchday 02:12 - Why launch Sunday reveals little about five-year survival prospects 03:12 - The power of follow-up: 85% of first-time guests return with a quickcall 04:11 - The shocking stats on guest follow-up and the importance of personalconnection 05:47 - Discipleship as the key to transformation and why attendance isn’tenough 06:45 - The gap between pastors’ priorities and reality in discipleship amongChristians 09:13 - The importance of a leadership pipeline and preparing for the future 10:32 - The role of the 'bus factor' and preventing critical man-dependencies 12:02 - Why most church volunteers and leaders are at risk of burnout and howto develop them 15:05 - Building a volunteer pipeline for sustainable growth and avoidingburnout 16:59 - The critical need for a sending culture to enable church multiplication 19:07 - How to intentionally build and reinforce these five essential systemsfrom day one 20:36 - Trusting God’s growth while faithfully building biblical systems 21:04 - The challenge: pick one system and improve it before next week Connect with Jeff Hoglen: • ChurchPlanting.com • Jeff Hoglen Facebook • ChurchPlanting.com on Facebook • JeffHoglen.com Big Ideas 1. Building systems outlasts talentor passion 2. Discipleship is a systemicobligation, not optional 3. The ‘bus factor’ exposesleadership fragility 4. Cultivating a sending culture is amultiplier 5. Long-term growth demands a focuson unseen, unglamorous systems

  • July 16 · 15 min

    Is Your Church's System Actually a System?

    Most churches unknowingly rely on systems that only work when the lead pastor is physically present — risking collapse when they're gone. What if a simple, boring checklist could prevent that disaster and unlock stronger, more resilient ministry?I n this eye-opening episode, Jeff Hoglen reveals how many churches' biggest vulnerabilities are hidden behind familiar routines that only exist in leaders’ memories. Using surprising insights from hospitals, aeronautics, and real-world church failures, he shows why the most effective systems are often the simplest—and why they need to survive beyond just one person's knowledge. You'll discover: • Why most church systems are just memories— and how to turn them into written, scalable processes. • The shocking impact of checklists in hospitals, saving thousands of lives— and how similar "boring" routines can safeguard your church. • The importance of protecting your church's most critical moments, just like pilots protect takeoff. • How to create a seamless leadership transition by building transparency and process into your church’s DNA. • Actionable steps to develop “sterile cockpit” standards for your high-stakes moments— from guest check-in to altar calls. Failure to build resilient systems leaves your church vulnerable to leadership gaps, inconsistent follow-up, and missed opportunities for spiritual growth. But implementing simple, clear checklists and honest conversations can transform chaos into continuity—giving your congregation the stability it needs to thrive, no matter who’s in charge. Why this works: This episode hooks with the urgent question of church stability outside of the lead pastor, appealing to leaders who want to safeguard their ministries. It emphasizes clear, concrete strategies—like checklists and communication—to evoke trust and curiosity. The relatable hospital and aviation examples pique interest and communicate that simple routines can have huge impacts, making listeners eager to learn how to apply these principles to their churches. Key Topics: • The critical difference between a system and a mere memory. • Lessons from hospital checklists that save lives and how they apply to church processes. • The importance of documenting high-stakes moments with clear checklists to ensure consistency. • Why the most crucial part of a church's success happens in moments of high risk, such as guest check-in and follow-up. • How to create "sterile cockpit" standards during these high-stakes minutes to safeguard spiritual and organizational health. • The significance of leadership succession planning and transparent communication for church sustainability. • The biblical model for leadership transfer as demonstrated in Moses and Joshua, emphasizing multiplication over dependency. Timestamps: 00:00 - The church system accountability question you can't ignore 02:02 - The role of the Holy Spirit versus systems in salvation and growth 03:16 - Why much of pastors' "systems" are just personal memory 04:15 - Lessons from the Crystal Cathedral and First Baptist Dallas leadership struggles 06:38 - The hospital ICU checklist: saving lives through boring systems 08:34 - How checklists prevent mistakes in critical moments in church processes 09:36 - Making high-stakes moments in church safe for the Spirit’s move 10:55 - The sterile cockpit rule and applying it to church leadership moments 12:18 - Identifying and protecting your church’s highest risk moments 13:36 - Why leadership transition planning is a vital, transparent process 14:34 - Biblical principles for succession: Moses, Joshua, and multiplication 15:20 - Building systems that survive new leaders and ensure continuity 16:40 - Action step: Document a high-stakes moment in your church 17:08 - Have an honest conversation about succession and contingency planning 18:07 - Call to build something resilient that the Holy Spirit can move through Connect with Jeff Hoglen: • churchplanting.com • Jeffhoglen.com

  • July 6 · 10 min

    How to Keep Momentum After Launch Sunday!

    If you've ever put your heart into launching a new church,you know the adrenaline rush of Launch Sunday. But what comes next? This episode offers practical insights to keep the momentum alive long after that initial launch, ensuring your church continues to grow spiritually and numerically. Key Topics • The significance of momentum and common pitfalls after Launch Sunday • Strategies for maintaining and building momentum over time • The importance of follow-up, celebrating wins, and volunteer encouragement • Cultivating an outward focus and consistent vision casting • Discipleship as the core of enduring growth, not just attendance • Stewarding momentum rather than manufacturing it Timestamps 00:00 - The real challenge after Launch Sunday: sustainingmomentum 00:30 - Launch Sunday is just the starting line, not the finish line 01:28 - Why momentum leaks and how to prevent it 02:55 - Tracking meaningful engagement over attendance numbers 03:23 - The importance of celebrating wins and recognizing volunteers 04:54 - Keep volunteers encouraged through appreciation and connection 06:19 - Maintaining outward focus with community engagement 06:50 - Continually cast vision and keep the mission clear 09:20 - Shift focus from attendance to disciple-making 10:26 - The danger of growing crowds without spiritual growth 11:27 - Building a sustainable church culture over time 12:23 - The importance of faithfulness over one-time events 12:52 - Final encouragement: steward momentum through daily faithfulness Resources & Links churchplanting.com Connect with Jeff Hoglen jeffhoglen.com

  • July 1 · 14 min

    From Invisible to Unavoidable How Your Church Can Truly Reach Its Community

    Your church has been in the neighborhood for two decades — and your neighbors still don't know you exist. Or worse, they know you exist and they just don't care. In this episode, we dig into why the "come to us" model is dead, and lay out a real, reproducible strategy for churches that are serious about breaking through and finally reaching their community. Scripture References: Matthew 5:14-16 — "You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden." Acts 2:44-47 — The early church's community presence and favor Luke 15:4 — The shepherd who leaves the 99 Matthew 28:19 — "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations" Are you wondering if your church is making a real impact nearby? Jeff Hoglen dives deep into why traditional "come to us" strategies fail and shares practical, proven ways to embed your church into the life of your neighborhood. If your community isn't noticing, this episode is essential listening for church leaders committed to transformation. Main Topics Covered: The limitations of the "come to us" model and why it no longer works Four key shifts churches must make to engage their neighborhoods effectively How to turn participation into trust and build credible relationships Practical system for everyday outreach: map, bless, connect, celebrate The importance of church leaders modeling presence and relationally-driven ministry Timestamps: 00:00 - Is your church invisible to your neighborhood? Why it matters 02:29 - Debunking the traditional "come to us" approach 03:00 - The stark reality: most unchurched people are not wandering toward church 03:28 - The power of personal invitation from trusted relationships 04:16 - Introducing four strategic shifts to reach your community 04:44 - Shift 1: From programs to presence in the neighborhood 05:41 - How authentic presence opens doors for real relationships 06:56 - Shift 2: From Sunday-only focus to daily relationship-building 07:47 - Engaging your church community as everyday missionaries 09:12 - Shift 3: From transactional outreach to earning trust 09:59 - Credibility is built quietly through authentic service 12:12 - Shift 4: From one-time events to sustainable systems — the four-step process 13:09 - Step 1: Map your neighbors; know their names 14:09 - Step 2: Bless your neighborhood with simple acts of kindness 14:39 - Step 3: Connect through low-barrier community events 15:06 - Step 4: Celebrate and share stories of God’s work in neighborhoods 16:06 - Leading the way: pastors as neighborhood neighbors, not distant managers 17:04 - Practical challenge: Introduce yourself to three neighbors this week 18:04 - The real mission field is right outside your door Resources & Links: ChurchPlanting.com – for more on missional strategies and community engagement Source Citations: Barna Group, The State of the Church 2020 — 38% of U.S. adults are "unchurched" Barna Group, Spiritual Conversations in the Digital Age, 2018 — 47% of Millennials agree that it is wrong to share your faith LifeWay Research, Churchless, 2014 (Ed Stetzer & Thom Rainer) — Most unchurched people have been invited to church; the barrier is relational credibility. Thom Rainer, Becoming a Welcoming Church, 2018 — 82% of unchurched people say they would attend church if a friend invited them Leadership Network / Exponential Network community engagement research NAMB Church Planting research on community presence and conversion rates Keywords: church outreach strategy, how to reach your community, church not growing, missional church, church community engagement, how to break through in your neighborhood, church evangelism strategy, church planting outreach, reaching unchurched people

  • June 24 · 20 min

    Should You Plant, Revitalize, or Adopt a Church?

    Discover the often-overlooked strategies for extending kingdom impact by exploring the three primary paths: church planting, adopting, and fostering. This episode challenges believers to consider their role in revitalizing existing churches and communities with intentionality and clarity. Key Topics: The limitations and opportunities in church planting versus revitalization How church adoption differs from planting and the necessary commitments The role and process of fostering churches for temporary support and reconciliation Statistical insights on church decline and transition strategies Practical questions to determine which path suits your church and community Timestamps: 00:00 - Why conversation about church planting is incomplete without considering existing churches 00:30 - Common misconceptions around church planting and other strategies 00:59 - The stark reality of declining churches in America and globally 01:22 - The three paths for extending church impact: planting, adopting, and fostering 01:52 - Defining church planting: starting from scratch and what it really entails 02:21 - Challenges and realities of church planting efforts and resource needs 03:27 - The concept of church adoption: partnership that assumes full responsibility 04:51 - The importance of cultural transplantation in church adoption 06:08 - When adoption fails: the significance of resource capacity and leadership health 07:35 - What is church fostering? A support-oriented, temporary partnership 09:10 - Practicalities and boundaries in fostering relationships 11:02 - The importance of clarity in fostering agreements and process 12:01 - The necessity of cultural transformation in church adoption 13:23 - Handling membership transitions and preserving healthy church DNA 14:52 - The burden and benefits of adopting or fostering—knowing your church's capacity 16:40 - When fostering turns into adoption or should be concluded 18:05 - Situations where fostering is the best path for church health restoration 20:08 - Essential guidelines for effective fostering relationships 21:45 - Managing leadership and maintaining independence in fostering 22:42 - Recognizing when fostering should transition to adoption or conclusion 24:09 - Practical framework for determining the appropriate strategy for struggling churches 25:55 - Challenging the church to look around their local community for opportunities 26:52 - The call to action: plant, adopt, or foster in your Jerusalem Resources & Links: Association of Related Churches (ARC) for resources on church planting and growth strategies Churchplanting.com Connect with Jeff Hoglen: Twitter Website Final Thoughts: The church's future doesn't just depend on planting new churches but also valuing and revitalizing the churches already present in our communities. Take the initiative in your local context—plant, adopt, or foster—and participate in God's kingdom expansion.

  • June 15 · 8 min

    What to Do When Core Leaders Get Tired

    In this episode, Jeff Hoglen explores the crucial topic of leadership fatigue within church communities. He shares five actionable insights to help leaders recognize signs of exhaustion early, foster rest, and develop resilient teams that thrive long-term. Key Topics: Recognizing early signs of leadership fatigue before burnoutEncouraging leaders to take intentional rest as stewardshipDifferentiating between exhaustion caused by ministry versus personal issues. Building leadership pipelines to distribute workload effectively Reminding leaders of their original purpose to reignite passion Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction: Addressing leadership fatigue in ministry00:31 - Why leaders get tired, not necessarily lazy or uncommitted01:00 - Signs of fatigue: energy drops, withdrawal, emotional shifts01:56 - The importance of monitoring both ministry and personal wellbeing03:22 - Giving leaders permission to rest and recognizing rest as stewardship04:34 - Understanding the real causes of fatigue beyond ministry overload05:04 - How to ask questions and listen to leaders’ underlying issues06:25 - The importance of sharing leadership load and developing pipelines07:44 - Building a culture of multiplying future leaders08:12 - Reminding leaders why they started and renewing their purpose08:42 - The significance of encouragement and perspective during exhaustion09:12 - Leaders are people: caring well for their emotional and physical health09:43 - Rest is part of strategic leadership, not weakness10:14 - Final encouragement: slow down to grow stronger Resources & Links:John Maxwell Leadership Principles churchplanting.com Church Planting Done Different: Moving Beyond the Cookie-Cutter Copy-Paste by Jeff Hoglen Remember: Healthy leadership fosters healthy churches. Recognize fatigue early, prioritize rest, and invest in developing future leaders to sustain your ministry’s impact.

  • June 10 · 12 min

    Why Your Church Is Broke.... It's Probably Not What You Think

    In this episode, Jeff Hoglen addresses a common challenge faced by church leaders: How to fund growth amid limited resources. He explores the core issues behind stagnant finances and practical solutions grounded in diagnosis, leadership, and strategic planning. Key Topics: The importance of diagnosing the real problem: culture, allocation, or revenue How to shift from a budget conversation to a discipleship and formation conversation The significance of a strong culture of generosity and consistent teaching on giving Aligning church expenses directly with mission-driven priorities Practical steps for leveraging networks, asking for partnership, and running effective vision campaigns The role of bivocational models in sustainable church growth Developing high-capacity leaders to foster generosity and discipleship The example of Nehemiah’s strategic approach to community rebuilding Jeff Hoglen explains why most advice skips crucial diagnosis and how that leads to spinning wheels He discusses the three core church financial problems and how to identify them How to build a culture of generosity that sustains growth over time Practical tips for reallocating budgets to maximize mission impact The power of network asking and running vision campaigns with clarity The long-term benefits of investing in leaders and developing people rather than just focusing on fundraising Church Plantology by Peyton Jones The North American Mission Board (NAMB) Stadia Missions Jeff Christofferson on Co-vocational Structures LinkedIn Twitter In this episode: Timestamps: 00:00 - How churches can fund growth when resources are tight 00:33 - The mistake of jumping straight to solutions without diagnosis 01:02 - The three key problems: culture, allocation, and revenue 01:30 - Why a discipleship approach is essential for generosity 02:25 - Jesus’ emphasis on money as a spiritual indicator 03:35 - Shifting from a budget talk to a formation conversation 04:26 - Building a strong, consistent culture of generosity 04:56 - How to evaluate and realign church expenses with mission 06:45 - When to consider bivocational models for sustainability 07:13 - The power of marketplace engagement and partnership asking 08:36 - The story of Nehemiah as a model for strategic planning 09:27 - Running clear, vision-driven campaigns that inspire giving 10:47 - How to craft a compelling vision that fuels generosity 11:17 - Developing leaders to foster long-term growth and giving 12:34 - The importance of investing in high-capacity people 13:31 - Summarizing the path: diagnose, build culture, realign resources, and ask boldly 14:28 - Final encouragement and call to action Resources & Links: CP on Facebook ChurchPlanting.com Connect with Jeff Hoglen: JeffHoglen.com

  • June 1 · 13 min

    Exposed: The Real Reason Churches Fail at Making Disciples

    Are you ready to move from attendance to discipleship? Tune in, take action, and start leading your church toward a true, life-changing mission today.In this episode, Jeff Hoglen dives deep into the disconnect many churches face: you experience good attendance but low discipleship. He emphasizes that while churches excel at gathering people, they often fall short in forming believers into true followers of Jesus. The core question: how do we move from audiences to fully discipled disciples?Key Topics Covered: The difference between attendance and discipleship systems Why a clear next step is essential for spiritual growth The importance of relationships in transformational discipleship Discipleship as the church’s mission, not just a program Practical steps for pastors and leaders to invite deeper commitment The Great Commission Acts 2:42-47 Craig Groeschel on Discipleship Barnagroup Research Twitter LinkedIn Timestamps:00:00 - Why attendance isn’t equivalent to discipleship00:31 - The gap between gathering and spiritual transformation00:58 - Jesus' Great Commission: from filling seats to making disciples01:28 - The reality of systems built for attendance, not transformation01:57 - The lack of a pathway from first visit to deep discipleship02:26 - Data: Only one in five church-going adults have a biblical worldview02:55 - The difference between a discipleship program and process03:22 - Why activity isn’t the same as spiritual formation03:51 - The necessity of a clear, specific next step04:21 - The impact of timely follow-up on spiritual decisions04:50 - How low barriers increase engagement05:19 - What a practical next step looks like in a church context05:49 - The relational environment as the primary setting for discipleship06:24 - Jesus’ model of relational discipleship06:51 - Building relational infrastructure: authentic groups and accountability07:21 - Acts 2 church: an example of relational discipleship in practice08:14 - Moving from "discipleship light" to real life-on-life accountability08:43 - Discipleship has to be the church’s mission, not just a ministry09:32 - The sequence: church growth follows faithful disciplemaking09:57 - Measuring success by transformation, not attendance10:27 - Financial priorities: discipleship formation vs. Sunday production10:57 - Discipleship is an active ongoing process, not a one-time decision11:25 - The power of personalized invitations to go deeper11:56 - Identifying and calling up faithful, hungry members12:25 - The model of personal invitation: the true core of discipleship13:43 - From gathering to aligning around a spiritual mission14:06 - Creating clear, relational pathways from curiosity to commitment14:32 - Discipleship is costly—time, ego, intentionality15:01 - Practical challenge: Pray and reach out to three people this week15:30 - The foundation: starting small, personal, and immediate16:01 - Closing encouragement: become intentional in disciplemaking Connect with Jeff Hoglen: • ChurchPlanting.com • JeffHoglen.com

  • May 25 · 15 min

    When Church Attendance Drops...

    5 Things to Do When Church Attendance Drops In this episode of Church Plan 2.0, Jeff Hoglen addresses a common challenge for church leaders: what to do when attendance drops. He shares five practical, grounded strategies to navigate this often emotional situation with wisdom and purpose. Key Topics: The emotional impact of attendance drops and the importance of leadership stability Why not to overreact by making drastic changes immediately Asking better questions to understand the underlying issues Personal shepherding and relationship-building with missing attendees Refocusing outreach efforts and cultivating an invitation culture Returning to core fundamentals to rebuild strength and momentum The importance of patience, persistence, and faithfulness in ministry Rich Birch, Unseminary Podcast Timestamps:00:00 - Understanding the emotional effects of attendance drops on church leaders00:29 - The importance of not panicking and making rash changes00:54 - How to assess if attendance dips are part of a trend or just a moment01:22 - The significance of cultural context in attendance patterns01:51 - Asking better questions: Are guests returning? Are relationships forming?02:17 - Handling large attendance events and subsequent dips responsibly02:44 - The risk of reacting emotionally to attendance patterns03:13 - Building stability through cultural awareness and patience03:43 - The importance of leadership consistency amid fluctuations04:11 - Recognizing and addressing seasonal and external influences04:41 - How weather, holidays, and life stages affect attendance05:10 - Identifying patterns and avoiding unnecessary fear05:39 - Asking deeper questions about connection and engagement06:10 - Monitoring relational health in the church06:39 - The value of clear vision and momentum maintenance07:09 - Leadership’s role in asking tough questions and staying focused07:35 - Recognizing signs of loss of momentum and routine drift08:07 - Keeping vision and mission at the forefront of church life08:34 - Reaching out personally to absent members09:03 - The power of relational follow-up over criticism09:33 - Recognizing silent struggles of church members10:02 - When departures are not due to offense but circumstances10:33 - Building a culture of outreach and invitation11:02 - Practical ways to promote evangelism and invitation culture11:41 - Avoiding insularity by focusing on outsiders and community outreach12:10 - Recommended resources for fostering invite culture (Rich Birch, Unseminary)12:37 - Consistent follow-up and creating welcoming environments13:07 - Simple, intentional outreach strategies with social media and events13:45 - Ensuring greeters and environments encourage open access for newcomers14:13 - The church’s core mission to reach the unreached, not just entertain14:42 - Returning to the basics: preaching clearly, praying passionately, and discipling intentionally15:12 - Going back to fundamentals like leadership development and follow-up15:41 - The importance of authenticity and truth in today’s church climate16:05 - Faithfulness in ministry and trusting God’s timing16:34 - The danger of chasing superficial trends at the expense of the core17:02 - Encouragement from Galatians 6:9 about perseverance and patience17:31 - Ministry seasons: planting, watering, and trusting God for growth17:59 - The call to lead prayerfully and consistently, not emotionally18:28 - Final encouragement: healthy growth is a long-term process rooted in faithfulness Resources & Links: • ChurchPlanting.com • Jeff Hoglen Facebook • ChurchPlanting.com on Facebook • JeffHoglen.com

  • May 21 · 11 min

    The 5 Most Powerful Ways to Lead

    The 5 Most Powerful Ways to Lead In this episode, Jeff Hoglen emphasizes the importance of revisiting the fundamentals of leadership. Instead of chasing new trends, he advocates for strengthening core qualities that have stood the test of time—leading with heart, clarity, timing, activity, and love. Key Topics: · The significance of evaluating how you lead, notjust what or where · The importance of foundational leadershipqualities over flashy tactics · Five basic yet powerful ways to lead: Godly,simple, timely, active, and loving · How strong fundamentals prevent leaders fromplateauing or burning out · Practical questions to assess your leadershipeffectiveness · The role of love and relational connection inlong-term influence Timestamps: 00:00 - The importance of working on how we lead, not just what or where 00:32 - Foundations matter: why leaders fail when their basics crack 01:03 - Introduction to five foundational ways to lead 01:20 - Inspiration from Artie Davis on checking the basics 01:49 - The significance of having solid basics in leadership 02:19 - Lead Godly: empowering others with humility and service (Matthew 23) 02:48 - The importance of heart-driven leadership focused on service 03:14 - Making decisions with others' growth in mind rather than self-promotion 03:35 - Leadership as a posture of the heart, not just behavior 04:03 - The need to continually check and correct our motives 04:22 - Lead Simply: clarity over complexity in communication and initiatives 04:52 - Overcoming overcomplication and focusing on what truly matters 05:29 - Leaders like Craig Rochelle and Andy Stanley on simplicity and focus 06:08 - Assessing what part of your leadership needs simplification 06:36 - Lead Timely: knowing when to act and when to wait 07:05 - The balance of movement: moving at the right moment and seeking counsel 08:04 - Lead Actively: the importance of presence and engagement 08:42 - Leadership is not about delegation alone, but being actively involved 09:08 - The power of showing up and leading in the trenches 09:37 - The impact of personal presence on team motivation and commitment 10:24 - Encourage active engagement to foster sacrifice and follow-through 10:33 - Lead Lovingly: love as the ultimate leadership foundation (1 Corinthians 13) 11:03 - Genuine love as the key to healthy, effective leadership 11:34 - Love in leadership is sacrificial, honest, and consistent 12:03 - The correlation between loving the people you lead and long-term success 12:44 - A quote highlighting love as the greatest indicator of leadership effectiveness 13:13 - Reflective questions on how well you lead in each of the five areas 13:30 - Picking one area for improvement and focusing on it for a week 14:20 - The importance of mastering the basics: lead godly, simply, timely, actively, and lovingly 15:25 - Encouragement to lead well and use your unique gifting to impact the world Resources & Links: • Artie Davis / Cornerstone Church • Craig Groeschel - Focused Church Leadership • Andy Stanley - Clarity in Leadership Connect with Jeff Hoglen: • ChurchPlanting.com • Jeff Hoglen Facebook • ChurchPlanting.com on Facebook • JeffHoglen.com

  • May 11 · 12 min

    12 Things Every Church Needs to Know in Year One

    12 Things Every Church Needs to Know in Year One Launching a new church is filled with challenges, nerves, and big dreams. In this episode, Jeff Hoglen shares practical, biblically grounded insights on what it takes to survive and thrive during the critical first year of church planting. Whether you're in the early stages or planning ahead, these tips will help you build a resilient foundation. Key topics: The importance of humility over proving yourself Why outreach is the lifeblood of new churches Understanding the slow but steady process of God's work Creating a spiritual culture of service and generosity The significance of vision from the very first day Prioritizing your city as the primary mission field Spirit-led worship as a catalyst for change Discipleship through caring for the poor Making outreach a core focus, not just a program The influence of leadership modeling on church culture Practical steps for identifying immediate growth areas The role of prayer and intentionality in leadership Timestamps: 00:00 - The realities of launching a church and the fears involved 01:00 - The #1 mistake: trying to prove yourself instead of staying humble 01:58 - Outreach as the lifeblood for building momentum 03:23 - Guard your time and avoid inward-focused ministry traps 04:25 - Trusting the slow but meaningful process of God's work 04:55 - Creating a culture of service and generosity 05:55 - The importance of prioritizing people over success 06:53 - Teaching on living generously to sustain the vision 08:00 - Dreaming big from day one: building for multiplication 08:52 - Your immediate city as the primary mission field 09:21 - Spirit-inspired worship as the environment for true change 10:46 - Discipleship includes caring for the poor 11:45 - Outreach must be the engine, not a side program 12:37 - The impact of your leadership exemplified in church culture 13:24 - Leaders set the tone through their actions and attitudes 14:27 - Focus on one area from the list—start today! Resources & Links: Steve Sjogren – Servant Evangelism Reach Out! : 77 Ways to Ignite Your Church's Mission Connect with Jeff Hoglen: ChurchPlanting.com Jeff Hoglen Facebook ChurchPlanting.com on Facebook JeffHoglen.com Remember, implementing these lessons one step at a time makes the journey manageable and sustainable. Focus on the one area God is highlighting for your church now and trust Him to grow it from there.

  • May 4 · 12 min

    Why Guests Visit Once and Never Return

    Most churches are losing first-time guests before they even hear the sermon — because everything happening before that, like parking or a smile, makes or breaks their entire experience. If you think worship or great preaching is enough to keep newcomers coming back, think again. The real secret is what happens before they even take their seat, and surprisingly, it’s all about first impressions and genuine connection. In this eye-opening episode, Jeff Hoglen dives into the often-overlooked moments that send guests out the door for good. You’ll discover why the parking lot can kill your church growth and learn simple, practical adjustments—like walking your campus with fresh eyes—that could make all the difference. Jeff unpacks research from Tom Rainer and shares how the first 10 minutes shape a guest’s entire experience, even before the service begins. You'll also hear how small acts of kindness, intentional signage, and authentic hospitality can turn visitors into members. We break down the critical timing for follow-up—why reaching out within 24 to 48 hours skyrockets the chance of a recurring visitor—and how a handwritten note or genuine call beats automated follow-ups every time. Plus, Jeff highlights the core need of modern seekers: belonging. They want to feel like they have a place at the table before they even believe or understand the theology. This episode is perfect for pastors, leaders, and volunteers committed to transforming their welcome culture and building a church that truly feels like family from the very first visit. If you’re ready to stop losing guests and start creating a community that invites people to stay, this conversation is your game changer. Your guest’s experience begins long before they hear the first song. Make every moment count — because when you focus on belonging, people don’t just attend. They return. Main topics covered: The critical importance of first impressions before the sermon starts How parking, signage, and simple navigation affect guest retention The tension between guest anonymity and meaningful connection The vital role of follow-up within the first 48 hours Why belonging, not just belief, keeps visitors coming back Practical steps to improve guest experience and build community Timestamps: 00:00 - The frustration of first-time guests not returning 00:40 - The first impression begins in the parking lot 01:50 - How signage and campus navigation influence guest retention 02:42 - Guests decide whether to come back within 10 minutes of arrival 03:11 - Why the parking lot experience is crucial to guest impressions 04:07 - The importance of a welcoming environment from the start 05:00 - How interactions and treatment of guests impact their decision 06:00 - The tension between guest anonymity and connection 07:12 - The value of genuine, low-pressure interactions 08:42 - Creating spaces for authentic relationships without forcing them 09:40 - Critical post-visit follow-up within 24-48 hours 10:19 - Personal follow-up methods that impact return rates 11:44 - Belonging versus belief — what truly keeps people coming back 12:14 - The importance of community over just attending events 13:12 - Practical ways to foster relationships and build community 14:12 - Focus on one area to significantly improve guest retention 14:40 - Every visitor counts — be intentional and ready for new guests Resources & Links: Tom Rainer on church guest retention Barner Group research on Belonging and engagement Books by Jeff Hoglen Churchplanting.com Connect with Jeff Hoglen: ChurchPlanting.com on FaceBook Twitter LinkedIn

  • April 27 · 13 min

    How to Build a Healthy Church Culture

    How to Build a Healthy Church Culture Most churches overlook the one factor that determines whether they thrive or decline — their culture. In this episode, Jeff Hoglen reveals how rapid growth is often sabotaged by unnoticed cultural cracks and shares strategies to build a life-giving church environment. Discover why the culture you allow is the culture you create, even if it’s unintentional. Jeff breaks down the vital differences between stated values and actual behaviors—showing how leadership modeling, conflict resolution, and celebrating wins shape your community from the inside out. You'll learn how dishonest conflict, gossip, or neglecting small moments can silently devastate your church’s unity and trust. You’ll uncover: The realities every church leader must confront to build a healthy culture How modeling authentic behavior sets the tone more than formal policies Why conflict handled poorly is often the biggest threat to community health—and how to resolve it biblically and effectively The importance of celebrating what matters to foster growth A simple “culture audit” to identify blind spots This episode is for pastors, church leaders, and volunteers committed to transformation. Ignoring culture risks stagnation but shaping it positions your church for sustainable growth and lasting impact. Key topics Why culture trumps vision and strategy in church growth The distinction between stated and actual church values How leadership models behaviors that shape culture Handling conflict constructively using Matthew 18 principles The impact of gossip and how to prevent it Celebrating wins to reinforce desired behaviors Conducting a culture audit to identify gaps between words and actions The role of organizational health in church effectiveness Timestamps: 00:00 - Why church culture is the most overlooked yet critical element 00:30 - The danger of losing people through backdoor exit despite appealing strategies 00:58 - Peter Drucker’s principle: "Culture eats strategy for breakfast" 01:27 - How unhealthy culture causes strategic plateau and decline 01:56 - Four realities every church leader must understand about culture 02:24 - The difference between stated values and lived values 02:51 - The importance of organizational health according to Patrick Lencioni 03:15 - What behaviors are truly valued in your church 03:42 - The importance of honesty and integrity at all levels of leadership 04:12 - The necessity of self-awareness in culture building 04:41 - Leaders model behaviors that followers emulate 05:10 - The impact of private modeling over mandated rules 05:39 - The significance of setting the tone through daily interactions 06:09 - The question: "What does my team observe in me?" 06:39 - How leadership modeling shapes the actual culture 07:07 - Handling conflict: avoiding or exploding, and its consequences 07:38 - The biblical framework for conflict resolution (Matthew 18) 08:08 - Strategies for healthy conflict engagement in the church 08:38 - The destructive nature of gossip and how to address it 09:24 - Zero-tolerance approach to gossip to protect the culture 09:54 - Redirecting and addressing gossip effectively 10:29 - The importance of focusing on positive reinforcement 11:00 - What you celebrate is what you will see repeated 11:30 - The impact of public celebration on culture formation 12:27 - Making celebration a core leadership discipline 12:57 - Practical tips: starting with wins, giving shout outs 13:25 - Building a deliberate, healthy church culture is a leadership choice 13:40 - Culture is shaped over time through intentional effort 14:08 - Conducting a culture audit: what would a first-time guest observe? 14:38 - Closing encouragement: seeing your culture clearly is the first step toward improvement Resources & Links The Advantage by Patrick Lencioni Matthew 18 Bible Passage Books by Jeff Hoglen Churchplanting.com Connect with Jeff Hoglen: ChurchPlanting.com on Facebook Twitter LinkedIn

  • April 20 · 7 min

    How to Preach Better Sermons That Truly Connect

    How to Preach Better Sermons That Truly Connect Preaching is more than just delivering a biblical message — it's about connecting with people and leading them toward transformation. In this episode, Jeff Hoglen shares practical tips for making sermons impactful, memorable, and life-changing. In this episode: The importance of starting with the person, not just the passage Crafting a single clear idea to enhance memorability Using stories to bypass resistance and connect emotionally Preaching with conviction and a sense of urgency Aligning sermons with the goal of transformation and discipleship Practical advice on sermon preparation and delivery Timestamps: 00:00 - Why connection, not just information, matters in preaching 00:30 - The danger of sermons that sound good but don’t land 00:40 - Start with the person, not just the passage 01:10 - Know your audience to make your sermon relevant 01:39 - The importance of clarity and one central idea 02:05 - Why relevance beats solely theological accuracy 02:35 - Focus on one clear takeaway for your audience 03:04 - Speak to the heart, not just the head 03:34 - The power of application and next steps 04:04 - Using stories to make sermons memorable 04:32 - The role of stories in bypassing resistance 05:01 - Preaching like it matters and with conviction 05:33 - The importance of real passion and urgency 06:01 - Connecting scripture with real-life stories for impact 06:30 - Preach with conviction because lives are on the line 07:00 - Avoid sermons that lack passion and conviction 07:29 - Every sermon should lead to a response and transformation 07:58 - The core mission: changed lives, discipleship, and impact 08:28 - Summary: Preach with clarity, purpose, and people in mind 08:56 - Final encouragement: Share this message and keep multiplying disciples Resources & Links: Preaching with Clarity by Andy Stanley Books by Jeff Hoglen Churchplanting.com Connect with Jeff Hoglen: ChurchPlanting.com on facebook Twitter LinkedIn

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