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Chasing Earhart

The world's only dedicated Amelia Earhart podcast. Part of the Chasing Earhart project.

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  • S3 · E39
    July 12 · 45 min

    S3 Ep39: Future Days: A Conversation with David Jourdan

    LINKS: Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING: Nauticos' Official Website About David Jourdan @ Nauticos LLC Nauticos Expedition Portal How To Find Amelia Earhart Podcast YouTube Amelia Rose Earhart YouTube Nauticos Reveals Breakthrough Data and Announces New Expedition to Locate Amelia Earhart's Plane @ PR Newswire Deep-sea explorers to launch new search for Amelia Earhart @ UPI

  • S3 · E38
    July 3 · 9 min

    S3 Ep38: Hey, Amelia

    LINKS: Our Website Rabbit Hole: The Vanishing of Amelia Earhart & Fred Noonan @ Amazon Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter

  • S3 · E37
    June 21 · 1 hr 1 min

    S3 Ep37: She Was Never Lost: A Conversation With Rich Martini

    LINKS: Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING: She Was Never Lost: The Amelia Earhart Saga @ Amazon Rich Martini's Blog: Earhart on Saipan Rich Martini's Youtube Channel: Hacking the Afterlife Bob Wallack & Julious Nabers Testimony Amelia Earhart's Airplane Found on June 19th 1944

  • S3 · E36
    May 2 · 34 min

    S3 Ep36: All of a Piece: A Conversation with Susan Butler

    “I don’t think there is any closure. I think every generation if going to investigate her again.” There are names in the Amelia Earhart story that echo. Explorers. Historians. Theorists. Voices that rise, fall, and fade as the decades pass. And then… there are the ones that don’t. The ones that stay. The ones that shape the conversation. The ones that—whether you agree with them or not—you have to reckon with. My guest tonight……. is one of those names. She didn’t just step into the Earhart case. She dug in.Through archives, through personal correspondence, through the kind of painstaking research that most people wouldn’t have the patience—or frankly—the stomach to see through.The book she released in 1993, didn’t just tell Amelia Earhart’s story…It reframed it. It stripped away the myth.The headlines. The almost cartoon-like legend that’s been built up over nearly a century……and replaced it with something far more complicated. Far more human. And for a lot of people? Far more uncomfortable. Because she doesn’t deal in easy answers. She doesn’t deal in tidy narratives. And she’s never been afraid to challenge the status quo—even when it means pushing back against the loudest voices in the room… or the most popular theories in the field. Including some that you—and I—know very well. And that’s what makes this conversation… different. Because today isn’t just about revisiting Amelia Earhart. It’s about interrogating the story. It’s about asking what we think we know… and whether it actually holds up under pressure. It’s about legacy. Memory. Myth-making. And the fine line between history… and storytelling. So whether you’ve read her work cover to cover…Or whether you’ve disagreed with her for years…There’s one thing that’s undeniable: When she speaks on Amelia Earhart—People listen. And tonight… We’re going there. The Final Boss Has Arrived. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. From Lake Whales, Florida this…is Susan Butler. LINKS: Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING: East to the Dawn at Amazon Susan's Blog

  • S3 · E35
    March 2 · 40 min

    S3 Ep35: Lost: A Conversation with Rachel Hartigan

    There’s something strange that happens when a person disappears. First, there are facts. Timelines, coordinates and in this case, fuel calculations. But as years past, facts begin to loosen and memory steps in. Speculation fills the gaps. And slowly — almost invisibly — a life turns into a legend. Amelia Earhart didn’t just vanish in 1937. She multiplied. She became a castaway, a spy, a prisoner, a martyr, a survivor living under an assumed name. A symbol pulled in every direction history could stretch her. And somewhere inside all of that, there was still a real woman. A pilot, a daughter a partner. A public figure navigating a world that both celebrated and constrained her. Tonight, I’m joined by someone who’s spent years examining not just what happened to Amelia Earhart…But what happened to her story. Her new book, does something bold. It doesn’t just chase a single ending. It explores the multiple “deaths” Amelia’s experienced — culturally, narratively, and symbolically. Because in truth…Amelia has been lost more than once. Lost in the Pacific, in wartime rumor, in conspiracy, and sometimes, lost beneath her own myth. In an era where newly released files are reigniting debates - where social media theories can spread faster than peer-reviewed research - where every satellite image becomes potential proof, it feels important — maybe now more than ever — to pause. To ask, "how did we get here?" How did Amelia Earhart become a canvas onto which generations project their anxieties, hopes, and suspicions? And what does it mean to reclaim the woman from the noise? Tonight’s guest doesn’t approach this story with sensationalism. She approaches it with cultural curiosity. With narrative awareness. With a recognition that mystery doesn’t just live in oceans - it lives in memory. In the stories we tell. In the way each era reshapes history to fit its own reflection. Tonight, we’re going to talk about those reflections. We’re going to examine how Amelia’s story has been retold, repackaged, and sometimes misunderstood. We’ll talk about the tension between evidence and imagination. Between scholarship and spectacle. Between closure, and the human need for one. And maybe most importantly, we’ll talk about why this story refuses to settle. Why 88 years later, Amelia Earhart still occupies space in our collective imagination. Why we’re still here - still searching, still asking. Because sometimes the mystery isn’t just about what happened on July 2, 1937. Sometimes the mystery is about us. What we need from her story. What we fear about it. What we hope it says about risk, ambition, and disappearance. This episode isn’t about solving the case. It’s about understanding how the case lives. How it evolves. How it survives. And how, in many ways, Amelia Earhart has had more than one ending. Let’s get Lost. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. From Washington D.C. by way of National Geographic, This is Rachel Hartigan. LINKS: Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING: Rachel's Official Website Get Lost: Amelia Earhart's Three Mysterious Deaths & One Extraordinary Life @ Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or anywhere you get your books. What Really Happened to Amelia Earhart? @ WBUR Amelia Earhart's Life Is Way More Interesting Than Her Mysterious Death @ National Geographic TIGHAR's Official Website Nauticos' Official Website

  • S3 · E34
    January 25 · 23 min

    S3 Ep34: Through Many Miles of Tricks & Trials: A Conversation with Dorothy Cochrane

    I think I wanna start tonight by telling you all a quick story. In 1932, Amelia Earhart completed the first solo transatlantic flight by a woman and became only the second person to make the flight period. She did it in NR7952 her beautiful Lockheed Vega. Now, I love all of Earhart’s famous planes and even though it may not be the most famous one, it’s my personal favorite and has been since I was a kid. During our visit to the Smithsonian a few years ago, I remember standing under it while my wife snapped a picture. “Now look at me and smile!” she said - as she snapped a picture that continues to hang in my office to this day. We stood under it together after the picture and just enjoyed being in the same space as something Amelia loved so much. It was real, we could touch it. “Can you believe we made it here?” she asked? I couldn’t. We were never supposed to make it past the first few episodes of the show and now we were standing in Air & Space in Washington D.C. and we’d already shot several guests for the documentary across the country before that point. I looked up, standing under that wing thinking that it was the most beautiful piece of winged machinery I’d ever laid eyes on. For nearly a century, Amelia Earhart’s name has lived in two worlds at once. One is made of headlines and legend…the kind of stuff that turns a woman into a symbol, then turns that symbol into a battleground. The other world is quieter. Heavier. More honest. It lives in archives. In carefully preserved artifacts. In labels written by steady hands. In collections protected not for what we want to believe—but for what we can actually prove. Because if there’s one thing this case has taught me… it’s that the mystery doesn’t survive on a lack of answers. It survives on noise. On certainty sold too quickly. On the comforting illusion that the truth must be simple… or cinematic… or just one big discovery away. But Amelia wasn’t simple. And the story she left behind isn’t either. Tonight, we’re sitting down with someone who has spent a lifetime living in the space between myth and material… between the public story and the private record. She’s one of the most trusted voices in American aviation history— a Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum curator whose work has helped preserve and interpret the artifacts that define how the world remembers flight. And when it comes to Amelia Earhart specifically, she’s not approaching this from the outside looking in. She’s spent decades stewarding the very things people argue about—general aviation history, flight materiel, aerial cameras… and the story of women in aviation as a living, breathing timeline—not a highlight reel. In other words…when she speaks, the room gets quieter. Because she’s not here to sell us a theory. She’s here to bring us back to the only thing that has ever deserved the steering wheel in this case: the woman and the record. And that matters—because right now, the Amelia Earhart conversation is loud again. New expeditions - new claims - new “finally solved” declarations are running laps around the internet, right now. But before we sprint toward whatever comes next… we need to do something most people skip: We need to slow down. We need to ask what the evidence can actually carry. We need to separate story from story-telling. And we need somebody who knows the difference. She’s devoted more than forty years to collecting and preserving aviation artifacts—not just to keep them safe, but to make sure the stories behind them are told responsibly… in a way that educates and inspires, instead of misleads and inflames. That kind of work doesn’t make you famous in the way the internet understands fame. It makes you foundational. It makes you the person future historians cite. The person documentaries call when they want to get it right. The person you bring in when the legend gets so big, that the truth struggles to breathe. Oh and, something really cool. You’ve heard me talk about my original 25 - the list I made when I sat down to begin this project so long ago. Not only was she on my original 25 - but she was number 1. How bout that? So…….if you’ve ever wanted to hear what this case sounds like when the noise lowers and the facts step forward— This is your night. And we have one helluva instructor. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. From Washington, D.C by way of the Smithsonian Air & Space, this is Dorothy Cochrane. LINKS: Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING: Dorothy Cochrane @ Smithsonian Air & Space Amelia Earhart Project Recordings @ Smithsonian Air & Space Opinion: Amelia Earhart and the continuing search for her Lockheed Electra @ CNN Amelia Earhart’s Trailblazing Life in Aviation @ Smithsonian Magazine Amelia Earhart Pioneer of Flight: A Conversation with Dorothy Cochrane & Tom Crouch @ Chasing Earhart Aviation Expert Reexamines Amelia Earhart’s disappearance with Bold Claim @ Fox News

  • S3 · E33
    January 19 · 24 min

    S3 Ep33: What Lies Ahead: A Conversation with Dr. Richard Pettigrew

    For nearly a century, the disappearance of Amelia Earhart has lived in the space between history and legend — a story told and retold, debated and dissected, yet never fully resolved. But every so often, the mystery shifts. Not because of rumor. Not because of speculation. But because of evidence. Tonight’s conversation centers on the physical remnants left behind — fragments of a story buried in coral, sand, and time. Artifacts recovered from the remote island of Nikumaroro have forced us to ask an uncomfortable question: What if we really have been looking in the right place all along? Tonight we hear an update from a man that’s very much been at the center of the Earhart/Noonan search as of late — an archaeologist whose work has focused on the scientific analysis of this material evidence. His research doesn’t promise answers wrapped in certainty, but it does something far more important: it challenges assumptions, tests long-held beliefs, and brings the conversation back to what the evidence actually shows and why it matters. Just a few months ago, the highly publicized trip out to Nikumaroro was postponed. Now, it’s time to find out why. It’s time to slow the story down, examine what’s been discovered, how it’s been studied, and why these discoveries continue to reshape one of aviation’s greatest mysteries. This isn’t about closing the case. It’s about following the evidence — wherever it leads. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. From Eugene Oregon, this is the return of Dr. Richard Pettigrew. LINKS: Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING: The Taraia Object @ The Archeology Channel Taraia Object Deciphered @ TIGHAR Boards Expedition to locate Amelia Earhart's plane delayed by permit approval process, weather @ CBS News 1 month out: Countdown to the search for Amelia Earhart’s plane begins @ Purdue.edu Purdue Research Foundation and Archaeological Legacy Institute to embark on expedition to identify Amelia Earhart’s missing plane @ Purdue Research Foundation

  • S3 · E32
    January 11 · 37 min

    S3 Ep32: Revolution: A Conversation with Susan Ware

    For more than nine decades, Amelia Earhart’s name has been spoken with reverence and wonder—a flight path etched deep into the world’s imagination, and a disappearance that keeps us chasing echoes of her last sunrise over the Pacific. When I first started out on this journey so long ago, I was filled with optimism. Early in the project, I reached out to a woman who wrote one of my favorite Earhart books ever written. I never thought she’d say yes. But I was surprised a lot in those early days. She’s an award-winning historian whose work has helped broaden our understanding of women’s history, power, and the stories we tell about those who defy gravity—literal and figurative. But what happens when we step off the edge of the known and begin to look at the woman behind the myth? Not just the aviator who vanished, but the human being whose choices, context, and legacy ripple through gender, memory, and cultural terrain that often resists simplification? In her writing, tonight’s guest doesn’t just recount events. She situates them in the emotional landscape of their time, inviting us to confront not only what we remember, but why we remember it at all. In December of 2017, she made her Chasing Earhart debut. Nine years later, she’s back to discuss the latest developments in the Amelia Earhart case, for which there are many, and to remind us all what this story has always been about. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. From Hoptiken, New Hampshire, this, is Susan Ware LINKS: Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING: Susan Ware's Official Website Susan Ware @ Wikipedia Still Missing: Amelia Earhart and the Search for Modern Feminism @ Amazon Amelia Earhart: Pioneering Feminist @ The Smithsonian National Air & Space Museum's YouTube Records Relating to Amelia Earhart @ The National Archives

  • S3 · E31
    Oct 11, 2025 · 53 min

    S3 Ep31: July 2, 1937 – 8:43 A.M. - A Conversation with Jeff Morris & Rod Blocksome

    It’s been 86 days since we last released an episode for this show. I thought I could take some time off. You'd think I’d know by now. Back in May of this year, Amelia Rose Earhart made her Chasing Earhart debut as part of this reboot and we covered a lot of ground. What I didn’t know then, but am privy to know now, is that Amelia Rose, had a trick up her sleeve. At the time of our recording, she was being courted by several groups in the case, asking for her assistance in spring-boarding their searches, and the chase for her participation was very, very real. Since that episode, the search for Amelia Earhart & Fred Noonan has, let’s just say, taken a turn and we’re now in the middle of a race to the answer for a mystery that is now as white hot as it’s ever been. Amelia Rose has made her decision since that time, and it’s indeed given a boost to a team that’s been conducting one of the longest investigations this case has ever seen. Toward the end of August, it was announced that Amelia would join deep ocean exploration company Nauticos in its forthcoming trip out to the Pacific to pick up the search and bring Amelia Mary Earhart home. For good. But…..theirs isn’t the only search going on at the moment. Perhaps Amelia’s strongest professional connection at the time of her disappearance, Purdue University, has now also thrown their hat into the ring by pledging their support to Dr. Rick Pettigrew, and the Archeology Channels’ investigation in the lagoon of Nikumaroro Island - a locale that anyone listening will be very familiar with. I couldn’t write this if I tried. Oh, and one more thing. In the middle of all of this, our sitting president just called for the United States Government to immediately release the Earhart files. Tonight, I’m joined by two men that are making their Chasing Earhart podcast debuts. One is part of my original 25. And the other is at the center of everything Nauticos is doing for their next trip. We couldn’t ask for a better duo to open up all they can, in their efforts to finally finish this story - perhaps once and for all. Let's get to work. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. This is Jeff Morris and Rod Blocksome of Nauticos. LINKS: Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING: Nauticos Official Website Amelia Rose Earhart's Official Website Amelia Rose Earhart on Youtube "Nauticos Reveals Breakthrough Data and Announces New Expedition to Locate Amelia Earhart's Plane" @ PR Wire "Trump orders declassification and release of Amelia Earhart files nearly 90 years after aviator’s disappearance" @ The NY Post Amelia Mary Earhart @ The FBI Vault

  • S3 · E30
    Jul 16, 2025 · 1 hr 26 min

    S3 Ep30: The Aviator & the Showman: A Conversation with Laurie Gwen Shapiro

    So much of Amelia Earhart’s story lives in the spaces between facts—the hours unaccounted for, the voices never heard again, the enigmatic whispers of survival. Those unanswered questions keep us chasing, keep us listening for what might still be found. Over this rebrand, we’ve traced radio logs, scoured sonar scans off remote atolls, sat with the families who watched the world collectively hold its breath in July of 1937. We’ve pushed beyond accepted timelines, challenged the orthodox accounts. Each step has carried us further from the airport in Oakland and closer to the moment when time itself seemed to slip through her fingers. Today, we shift our focus—not to new sonar anomalies or grid searches—but to the power of storytelling itself, and the women who champion it. We welcome a guest whose entire career has orbited around truth-telling. She’s a journalist, writer, and documentarian - someone who has long been fascinated by how stories shape us—and how we shape them in turn. Her work spans genres, subjects, decades. Whether she’s exploring women's inner lives or investigating hidden histories, her lens is always clear, and always curious. In her new book, she turns her attention to reckoning with the unknown—not in search of wreckage or coordinates, but to dig into the emotional fallout, the cultural aftershocks that reverberate long after an airplane ever disappears. She’s been asking questions like, "How do we grieve someone we never knew?" "How does a myth persist when facts remain elusive?" Over the last season, we’ve heard from explorers, navigators, and forensic experts all alike. We’ve tracked timelines, re‑evaluated eyewitness accounts, and examined cryptic newspaper clippings reeking of both desperation and hope. All the while, we’ve felt the pull of Earhart’s silhouette—her strength, her ambition, her solitude, and the void she left behind. Tonight, we step back. We step into the stories left untold: letters never sent home, journals never written, and the echo of words like ‘we’re running low’ drifting in static. We’ll talk about mortality, myth-making, and memory. About how the flight of one aviatrix became a collective heartbeat for generations. Tonight's guest journey into that runway of remembrance might just teach us more about our own need to chase—to connect, to understand, to grieve. It’s part reflection, part excavation. But we’re not chasing debris this time. We’re chasing meaning. So, whether you’ve been with us since the very first broadcast, or this is your first descent into Earhart’s world, stay with me. Because these are the stories that don’t end in a disappearance. They begin to live anew—in the telling. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. From New York City, this is Laurie Gwen Shapiro. LINKS: Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING: Laurie's Official Website The Aviator & the Showman: Amelia Earhart, George Putnam, and the Marriage that Made an American Icon @ Amazon Laurie on Instagram Laurie on Twitter Laurie on Facebook 'Amelia Earhart’s Complicated Legacy and Horrible Husband' @ The NY TImes ‘The Aviator and the Showman’ Review: A Marriage in the Clouds' @ WSJ

  • S3 · E29
    Jun 14, 2025 · 56 min

    S3 Ep29: Amelia Earhart Myth & Memory: A Conversation with Amy Lutz

    When I say the Amelia Earhart/Fred Noonan case is a monster, you know I’m telling the truth. In 2017, I began my journey into this case publicly. And if there’s one thing I discovered right away, it’s that this case? The one we’ve been covering for well over a hundred episodes now? It’s full of misinformation. It’s gotten so bad that it becomes overwhelming when you start to look at it. And if you choose to answer the why to that question, you might find that maybe we’re all partially to blame for where this case currently stands. So how do we shift the narrative? Where in the world do we begin to dismantle even one of these theories? As it turns out the answer came a couple of months ago, when one of our listeners Becky Ott, posted a photo in our Facebook discussion group for Vanished. The photo was taken outside the St. Charles Missouri County Library and it was of a sign that read Discover the Past Amelia Earhart: Myth & Memory. The presenter that night is also tonight's guest. I’ve believed in synergy all my life, but I can’t explain how it works. It just does - and it almost always occurs at just the right moment, doesn’t it? Thanks to Becky’s post and her follow up with more information, I was able to connect with a guest that’s making her Chasing Earhart debut right now. And she’s about to pull the linchpin on everything you thought you knew about the Amelia Earhart case. You’re not ready for this, but we’re gonna give it to ya anyway. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. By way of St. Louis Missouri, This is Amy Lutz. LINKS: Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING: Amelia Earhart Myth & Memory by Amy Lutz @ UMSL.edu Amy Lutz on X Amelia Earhart Lives @ Amazon The Search for Amelia Earhart @ Amazon Amelia Earhart: Does Photo Show she Died a Japanese Prisoner? @ BBC Amelia Earhart: The Lost Evidence @ Wikipedia The Japanese Government’s Offer of Assistance to Help Find Amelia Earhart, July 1937 @ The National Archives Flight for Freedom @ Wikipedia 'Flight for Freedom,' a Film Speculation on Fate of Woman Flier, With Rosalind Russell in Lead, at the Music Hall @ The NY Times Facts and Fiction in the Search for Amelia Earhart @ Air & Space

  • S3 · E28
    May 6, 2025 · 51 min

    S3 Ep28: The Ghost of Gardner Island: A Conversation with John Kada

    We’re 27 episodes into my little experiment with this rebrand now - I never thought we’d still be going. It continues to baffle me. One of the things I really wanted to do when I decided to bring the show back was to make sure I brought new voices into the ongoing conversation that we’ve been having for decades. If you follow the pattern closely though, these last 27 episodes tell a bigger story. And if you’re really keen, you might notice that I like to do my best to manifest guests on this show. My manifesting must have been working overtime, because tonight’s guest has been a long time coming. You might have heard of his blog - It’s called the Ghost of Gardner Island. And there are an awful lot of people that will tell you that the work that’s featured there is nothing short of a master-class in research. Tonight, we run through the details of an investigation that began with little more than a follow up question and ended with a reversal in direction for one of Castaway's marquee artifacts - one thought to have belonged to navigator Fred Noonan. Some might call him a disrupter of sorts - a man whose own work has rattled the cages of one of this case's biggest summations. Others refer to him as one of the brightest Earhart researchers to come along in decades. And I tend to side with those guys. If we’ve done our best to showcase why castaway makes sense for the ultimate explanation of Earhart and Noonan’s demise, consider tonight a rebuttal of sorts and then, you tell me. Say his name, and he shall appear. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. From New York City, this is John Kada. LINKS Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING John's The Ghost of Gardner Island Blog The 1940's Sextant Box Identified? @ Tom King's Blog Bushnell Sextant Box @ TIGHAR's Official Website Luke Field Inventory @ TIGAHR's Official Website BVARC Dec 2020 Tom NY0V An HF Systems Engineering Approach in the Search for Amelia Earhart’s L10E @ YouTube Richard Blackburn Black, USNR @ USAS1939 Amelia Didn’t Know Radio by Captain Almon A. Gray, U.S. Naval Reserve (Retired) @ The U.S. Naval Institute's Official Website

  • S3 · E27
    Mar 22, 2025 · 41 min

    S3 Ep27: In the Palaces of Crowded Kings: A Conversation with Kenton Spading

    Several years ago, I started hearing about a man making his way through the Amelia Earhart/Fred Noonan disappearance case. What caught my attention wasn’t just his research—it was the way his name kept coming up. From the moment I became involved in this story, I’ve been drawn to the lesser-known nuances that make up the towering mystery of Amelia Earhart. As I got to know people in the field, one name surfaced repeatedly. No matter the theory, no matter the angle, everyone seemed to be talking about the same guy. He’s written books, published papers, and contributed to nearly every version of this story—including his appearance on Vanished: Amelia Earhart, where he explored a well-known collection of bones discovered on Nikumaroro. That discovery, made by British colonial officer Gerald Gallagher, remains one of the most hotly debated pieces of evidence in this case. Were those bones the final remains of Amelia and Fred, stranded castaways on a remote Pacific island? Or is the truth something else entirely? When I looked into his work, I immediately understood why he was so widely respected. He doesn’t care about being right. He thinks bigger. His neutrality has allowed him to move freely across this story, collaborating with some of the most prominent figures in the investigation—people who sit in opposing camps, defending starkly different theories. How does someone do that? How do you keep an open mind in a case that seems determined to pull you down an endless rabbit hole? Tonight, we find out. It’s time to open your ears and your mind. We’re making stops on Nikumaroro, Orona, and Buka—by way of St. Paul, Minnesota. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. This is Kenton Spading. LINKS Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING A Lost Sailor or Amelia Earhart? Lost Norwich City Crewmen: Potential Sources of the Human Remains Discovered on Gardner Island (now Nikumaroro Island) in 1940 @ Academia.edu St. Paul employee part of team searching for Amelia Earhart @ US Army Corps of Engineers Null Hypothesis @ Wikipedia Amelia Earhart's Shoes: Is the Mystery Solved? @ Amazon Vanished: Amelia Earhart "Left for Dead" (Part Two) @ Spotify The Chater Report @ TIGHAR's Official Website

  • S3 · E26
    Mar 3, 2025 · 24 min

    S3 Ep26: Let A Million Flowers Bloom: A Conversation with Dr. Tom King

    If you’ve ever heard me guest on other podcasts or in media of any kind, you’ve heard the story of how this podcast all started for me. But just in case you haven’t, here it is. The Chasing Earhart project (which this podcast is a part of) officially launched in 2017. But nine years before that, I started what I often refer to as the pre-research phase - a part of the project that lasted a little bit longer than the time we’ve been public. During that time, I made a list of 25 original guests that I felt I needed to convince to come on board and help me tell the most robust version of this story that, at that time, I felt I could. When we decided to go public, I began sending out emails, making cold calls and trying to pull strings as a nobody with no experience and no recognizability in relation to the case. I contacted everyone on my list with basically the same request. Come on my show, talk to me about your research and give me an opportunity to give you a platform that I felt would end up being unique once we gained some traction. Of all the people I reached out to, perhaps one man stood out more than most when it came to his approach and his notoriety in the case. He’s a decorated archaeologist with one of the most impressive resumes that I’ve ever seen. And we had a connection through the University of California Riverside, from which he earned his PhD in anthropology in 1976. In his teens, he organized the Society for California Archaeology and he’s the former senior Archaeologist for the International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery, better known to this audience by its famous acronym TIGHAR. He’s authored countless papers, written a pair of books - both fiction and non fiction and is perhaps the most well versed authority on the island of Nikumaroro. He was also the very first guest I ever featured on this podcast, over seven years ago. When I reached out to him initially, I remember telling my wife that we’d likely never hear back. After all, what business did someone like me have, in having a conversation with a man of his stature for a case I was so fascinated by? To my surprise, he said yes and we went on to have what is still the most listened to episode of this entire podcast. Since then, he’s gone on to guest on the show a couple more times, and he was also the first guest I asked to appear on our Chasing Earhart Discussion panel in Atchison, Kansas in 2018. When I came calling again for Vanished, he was in, and he gave some of the most important testimony that, that series has ever seen. I owe a lot to him. And tonight, after six years away from the show, he’s returned to catch up with me in what I’m referring to as a career retrospective when it comes to his involvement in the Amelia Earhart/Fred Noonan disappearance case. I didn’t know it when I started this rebrand 25 episodes ago, but coming full circle has become a dominating theme throughout. Tonight, in perhaps one of the most special conversations I’ve had on this show, I welcome him back into the fold to discuss his thoughts on castaway, and gain some surprising insight into his feelings on the case to be made for Nikumaroro. He’s one of the most highly respected people in his industry and his name will forever be synonymous with Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan. Listen to the following conversation closely - you’re all about to learn something valuable. And I hope you take it to heart. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. From Silver Spring, Maryland, this is Dr. Tom King. LINKS Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING Dr. Tom King's CRM Plug Blog "The Continuing Search for Amelia Earhart: An Interview with Tom King" @ The Archaeology Channel Dr. Thomas King Lecture on Amelia Earhart Recorded November 11, 2009 @ Texas State University Amelia Earhart Unrescued @ Amazon Amelia Earhart's Shoes: Is the Mystery Solved? @ Amazon Thirteen Bones @ Amazon Amelia Earhart on Nikumaroro: A Summary of the Evidence @ Academia.org Chasing Earhart: The Discussion Panel @ Chasing Earhart on YouTube Castaway: A Conversation with Dr. Tom King @ Chasing Earhart Niku IX Recap: A Conversation with Dr. Tom King & Andrew McKenna @ Chasing Earhart Amelia Earhart Unrescued: A Conversation with Dr. Tom King @ Chasing Earhart

  • S3 · E25
    Feb 27, 2025 · 40 min

    S3 Ep25: The Taraia Object: A Conversation with Dr. Richard Pettigrew

    In 2021, I had a conversation with brothers Mike and Robert Ashmore regarding a highly curious satellite image they’d discovered in a lagoon on an island that’s gotten a lot of play in this Earhart investigation over the years. It’s been some time since that interview and the wheels of this case turn slowly……but they do turn. Tonight, in a follow up to that episode, I welcome a man that has been on my radar for years, and over those years, we’ve talked off and on about him being a project guest but we wanted to wait until just the right moment for him to make his debut. Fortunately, now is that moment, and we owe it to that conversation with the Ashmore brothers from over 3 years ago. That satellite image they stumbled across? Now has a name and a true blue expedition out to Nikumaroro to investigate it. It’s called the Taraia object. He’s been named dropped for years by multiple guests. Tonight, one of the most decorated archeologists we've ever had on the show makes his Chasing Earhart debut to discuss a brand new expedition out to a very familiar place with an entirely new goal. This case has a way of bringing things full circle, and boy are we completing one of those tonight. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. From Eugene Oregon by way of the Archeology Channel, this is Dr. Richard Pettigrew. LINKS Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING The Taraia Object: Amelia Earhart’s Aircraft? Official Expedition Website The Archaeology Channel's Official Website "New Expedition Hopes to Find Amelia Earhart's Plane" @ Inside Edition on YouTube "Oregon archaeologist to embark on expedition to find Amelia Earhart’s long-lost plane" @ The NY Post Heritage Broadcasting's Official Website "The Last Flight: Local Organization Searching for Amelia Earhart" @ KLCC "The Continuing Search for Amelia Earhart: An Interview with Tom King" @ The Archaeology Channel "The Road to Amelia: A Conversation with Mike & Robert Ashmore" @ Chasing Earhart RECON Offshore's Official Website Aerial Tour of Nikumaroro @ TIGHAR's YouTube Channel Lost & Found - 1938 Nikumaroro New Zealand Images @ TIGHAR's Official Website

  • S3 · E24
    Jan 13, 2025 · 23 min

    S3 Ep24: The Amelia Six: A Conversation with Kristin L. Gray

    If you’ve ever attended the annual Amelia Earhart festival in Atchison Kansas, then you're familiar with an event that’s been a staple of that weekend every year since its inception. It’s called Breakfast with the Books. An event that brings Amelia Earhart authors to the town where the legend began to present their stories and discuss AE’s enduring legacy. A couple of years ago, while I was holding my event for Rabbit Hole, my next guest was there as a featured author for Breakfast with the Books in presentation of a story that we’ll be discussing tonight. She’s crafted one of the most clever ideas for a work of fiction that I’ve ever read and if you’re an Amelia Earhart fan, you’ll be absolutely thrilled at the way it’s presented and the attention she’s paid to all the little details that have helped make Earhart’s legend grow for almost 90 years. If you’ve ever wondered what it would be like for Amelia Earhart to meet Nancy Drew or Clue, get ready, because this is a mystery within a mystery, and it’s set in one of the most iconic Earhart landmarks in the entire world. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. This is Kristin Gray and The Amelia Six. LINKS Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished on Facebook Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING Kristin Gray's Official Website The Amelia Six @ Amazon The Amelia Earhart Birthplace Museum's Official Website Discover Amelia Earhart's Goggles @ Google Arts & Culture Kristin on Facebook Kristin on X Kristin on Instagram Kristin on Goodreads

  • S3 · E23
    Jan 4, 2025 · 52 min

    S3 Ep23: Recovery: A Conversation with Bill Snavely

    In August of 2017, I helped introduce the world to a man that had been quietly working on an idea that could blow the wheels off the Amelia Earhart/Fred Noonan story. He’d recently put out a book via the Paragon Agency called Tracking Amelia Earhart: Her Flightpath to the End. I happened to know the publisher of that book, Doug Westfall, who I’d met just a few months earlier and it was at that meeting that I first learned of tonight’s guest. Once I got his number, I gave him a call, and then I read that book. There aren’t too many moments in this whole thing that I can remember my exact thoughts at an exact point in time. But this one? I know because I wrote it down. A singular question. And here it is. “Why doesn’t everybody know about this?!” At the end of tonight, you’ll know two things. One - we have an aircraft off the coast of Buka, sitting a little over 100 feet down with a remarkable set of similarities to the holy grail of aviation. That’s a fact. And it’s inescapable now. And two - we’re gonna go get it. And in doing so, we’re going to mount the most incredible cross theory expedition this case has ever seen. They do say it takes a village. You’ve heard from everyone around him, some of the key names involved in Buka III, and you’ve even heard from some detractors who’ve certainly shared their skepticism on what’s become a very curious wreck site in an area of the world that nobody had ever looked in, until he started looking over 15 years ago. We have a plane to catch. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. From Salisbury, Maryland, this is Bill Snavely. LINKS Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished on Facebook Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING Project Blue Angel's Official Website (Updating Soon!) Tracking Amelia Earhart: Her Flightpath to the End @ Specialbooks.com Lost in Flight: Amelia Earhart Giving Cover as a Decoy for a Spy Plane @ Specialbooks.com Tracking Amelia Earhart: Her Flightpath to the End @ Chasing Earhart Buka III: Bill Snavely, Chris Williamson & the Dependable Engines Association @ Chasing Earhart The BEA Official Website

  • S3 · E22
    Dec 14, 2024 · 32 min

    S3 Ep22: The Plot Thickens: A Conversation with Tony Romeo

    Nearly a year ago, the Amelia Earhart story was rocked by a mysterious and compelling sonar image produced by ocean exploration company Deep Sea Vision. The suspiciously plane-shaped image taken in an area out in the Pacific near Howland Island, rattled the case to its core, and forced a full investigative stop while the world anxiously awaited a confirmation. As history was potentially unfolding, I welcomed Deep Sea Vision’s CEO, Tony Romeo to the podcast in his Chasing Earhart debut - and we discussed the possibility of his find being the beginning of the end for the Amelia Earhart/Fred Noonan disappearance case. Well, you know how that goes. Tonight, 10 months after that episode was recorded, Tony returns to look back in retrospect on that conversation, and discuss the most recent developments in the deep ocean search for the holy grail of aviation. You know, people say this case is cursed. You think there’s something to that? Just when you think the investigation may be over, it throws us yet another curve ball and puts us all right back where we were before. The plot thickens, indeed. Let’s get to work. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. Fresh back from deep in the Pacific Ocean, this is Tony Romeo. LINKS Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished on Facebook Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING Is This Amelia Earhart’s Long-Lost Plane? @ The Wall Street Journal Deep Sea Vison's Official Website Ocean exploration company's possible proof of Amelia Earhart's wrecked plane nearly vanished: report @ Fox News Researchers Thought They Found Amelia Earhart’s Missing Plane. It Turned Out to Be a Plane-Shaped Pile of Rocks @ Smithsonian Magazine The Beginning of the End: A Conversation with Tony Romeo @ Chasing Earhart

  • S3 · E21
    Nov 18, 2024 · 40 min

    S3 Ep21: Turning Point: A Conversation with Tom Dettweiler

    We’ve all been on a pretty incredible run lately. This little rebrand idea for the show I had about a year ago, was only supposed to be a couple of new episodes. Never in a million years did I think we’d still be going with more debuts, returning guests and new revelations. The last year has been one of the most tumultuous years in the history of this Earhart game and I’ve learned that in this story, the twists and turns are never over. There are very few people whom I consider to be giants in this case. And tonight’s guest is certainly no exception. He’s got dual master’s degrees in marine science and ocean engineering with a year of his education coming courtesy of Purdue University, interestingly enough and he’s used those degrees to go on to create perhaps the most impressive resume ocean exploration has ever seen. He worked with Jacque Cousteau on the search for the world famous Calypso, and was the operations manager for Bob Ballard’s historic Titanic discovery. And in 1999, he was also instrumental in the discovery of the Dakar - an Israeli submarine that had been missing without explanation for decades. Incidentally, that was the same year that Dana Timmer led the first deep ocean expedition in an attempt to locate Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan’s lost Electra which at that time, had been missing for 62 years. When they say it can’t be done - when they say it’s impossible, Tom Dettweiler says, “well, we’ll just see about that.” 6 years after his debut on the show, he returns to us now to discuss the status of the white hot deep ocean search for Earhart & Noonan, the state of the case as a whole and to give us all a much needed dose of his legendary eternal optimism. And we could all use some of that right now. Fresh back from the Cook Islands in the South Pacific Ocean, this….is Tom Dettweiler. LINKS Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter Vanished Facebook Group SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING Tom Dettweiler at the Official Website for the film, DAKAR Tom Dettweiler on LinkedIn Nauticos Official Website

  • S3 · E20
    Nov 10, 2024 · 54 min

    S3 Ep20: One More Good Flight: A Conversation with Ric Gillespie

    The longer this rebrand goes, the more I continue to be surprised. Years ago, I reached out to a man that was a part of my original 25. He’s perhaps the most well known name in the entire Earhart case. Some people also consider him to be a bit of a polarizing figure. When I reached out, I was a nobody - I had no contacts, no experience except my own handful of years in pre-research and I had no expectations about receiving a response. To my surprise, he reached right back out and we began a dialogue. We’ve had our differences over the years, but to his credit, and my surprise, he’s now returned to the show after a 6 year hiatus to discuss the case for the castaway hypothesis, and his new book that is being discussed as his swan song to the Amelia Earhart story. This is a sentence I thought I’d never utter on this show again. Welcome back to Chasing Earhart. From TIGHAR HQ in Oxford PA, this is Ric Gillespie. LINKS Our Website Vanished on Twitter Vanished on Instagram Vanished on TikTok Vanished Facebook Discussion Group Chasing Earhart on Facebook Chasing Earhart on Twitter Vanished Facebook Group SHOW NOTES & FURTHER READING One More Good Flight: The Amelia Earhart Tragedy @ Amazon Finding Amelia: The True Story of the Earhart Disappearance @ Amazon TIGHAR's Official Website The Post - Loss Radio Signals @ TIGHAR's Official Website The Radio Logs of the USCG Itasca @ TIGHAR's Official Website Have We Really Found Amelia Earhart's Bones? @ The Guardian Did Amelia Earhart land on Gardner Island? TIGHAR explains hypothesis in-depth | LiveNOW from FOX @ YouTube Finding Amelia with Hard Facts and Sound Science - Ric Gillespie at NEAM @ YouTube Post Loss Radio: A Conversation with Ric Gillespie @ Chasing Earhart

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