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Cayendo en Rabbit Holes

Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners.

Each episode, Rui (an intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (a native Spanish teacher) sit down for a real, unscripted conversation in Spanish. No scripts, no simplification — just authentic discussion that goes wherever it goes. Mistakes, corrections, and natural learning moments are all left in.

If you're learning Spanish and tired of content that feels too polished or too slow, this is for you. Real conversation. Real errors. Real progress.

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#36
September 28 · 47 min
Episode #36: The Word 'But', Compliment Sandwiches & Playing To Your Strength | Intermediate Spanish
Roberto has a theory about the word "but." Whatever you say before it gets erased by whatever comes after. "You're beautiful, you're smart, you're kind, but…" — everyone braces for the shoe to drop, and the shoe always drops. In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto start with one small linguistic observation and wander through the entire toolkit of everyday persuasion — compliment sandwiches, subconscious gestures, the fuzzy line between good communication and manipulation — before landing on a much bigger question: what's the one thing you should actually spend your life getting good at? In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) test whether the "but" effect can be flipped by leading with the bad news first, and land on the classic compliment sandwich (positive → negative → positive) as a way to give feedback without wrecking someone. Roberto walks through the tiny persuasion cues he's picked up from years of reading Robert Greene — palm up vs. palm down when you wipe your face, wearing a watch to signal reliability — and Rui pushes back on where the line between persuasion and manipulation actually sits. They cover the sad flip in relationships (the trait that first attracted your partner is often the same one they later complain about), Nietzsche's pragmatic take on moral priorities, and Roberto's own habit of using distance instead of confrontation. From there it opens into a longer thread on personality types: the analytical/cold person and the charismatic one can both succeed, and the real rule is "play to your strengths." Roberto shares a study he read years ago that has stuck with him — successful adults tend to be people whose parents doubled down on their childhood strengths, while unsuccessful ones had parents who tried to patch up their weaknesses. They close on the modern specialization landscape (Tiger Woods, the Williams sisters) and the small mercy that Rui has never needed to recall chemistry nomenclature at his engineering job. Plus, two enormous personal-life updates: Rui defends his PhD thesis in ten days, and Roberto is launching his own online English school this Monday — quieroaprenderingles.com.mx. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor Roberto's English school: https://quieroaprenderingles.com.mx 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles
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#35
September 21 · 33 min
Episode #35: The 90-10 Fallacy & Why Initiative Isn't Always A Good Thing | Intermediate Spanish
Roberto hired a cleaning lady who is genuinely great. She cleans his apartment faster than he ever did and to a standard he could never quite reach on his own. The problem — if you can even call it a problem — is that she takes initiative. She threw out his almost-empty bottle of favorite hot sauce because there was a new one behind it. She reorganized his bathroom and closet, swapping items between them. She cleans the inside of his fridge, which was never part of the job. In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto start with the small everyday puzzle of how to give feedback without killing someone's willingness to try new things, and end up somewhere bigger: the 90-10 fallacy, and why we so often chase the 10% we don't have while losing the 90% we already do. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) argue that "initiative" is almost always assumed to be a good thing but really depends on the situation and the execution. They cover why McDonald's specifically doesn't want a line cook improvising a new Big Mac recipe, the Flaming Hot Cheetos story about the janitor whose pitch made him a millionaire, and Google's "moonshot" departments — a controlled channel for wild ideas so nobody's improvising with the core business. Roberto walks through his own dilemma with the cleaning lady and quotes his psychologist friend's diagnosis: "your margin is too small — this is a good exercise for your patience." From there they get into the 90-10 fallacy — the way people who have 90% of what they want (in a marriage, a job, a city, a president) will burn it all down chasing the missing 10%, then discover the new version has a different 10% missing and the old 90% is gone. They connect it to our human tendency to notice bad news over good news (the enormous progress in HIV treatment as a case study), and land on gratitude as something you have to work at, not something that shows up on its own — Roberto is currently reading a Greater Good Science Center book on exactly that. Plus, some quick life updates: Rui just came back from his brother-in-law's bachelor party (his sister is getting married in five weeks), and Roberto spent the weekend at a Mexican Independence Day event at his coworking space. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#34
September 7 · 35 min
Episode #34: AI, Fake Breathing & Why Nothing Is Harder Than Acting Natural | Intermediate Spanish
Google's Notebook LM can generate AI podcasts on a research topic. The podcasts feature two AI voices talking to each other and, weirdly, breathing. Actually breathing, the way humans have to. It is deeply unsettling, because, obviously, AI doesn't need to breathe. Somebody added those sounds on purpose so the whole thing would feel more human, and instead it lands as the exact opposite. In this week's rabbit hole (a direct continuation of last week's episdoe), Rui and Roberto pick apart what AI can and can't fake about being human — and what happens when it tries too hard. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) start with the strange irony that AI, trained on the averages of all of us, ends up sounding like none of us — because real people are inconsistent, asymmetrical, and constantly making tiny mistakes that a training set can't reproduce. Roberto's prediction: the same experts already tuning TikTok and Instagram for maximum engagement will start engineering imperfections into AI on purpose (a bumped mic, a broken sentence, a face that isn't quite symmetric). They cover the AI influencers who already exist, the AI-only OnlyFans pages, the grandparent-voice-cloning scams that target the elderly, and Roberto's neighbor who dislikes the new Superman movie because "the dog is AI" (he means CGI). Then it gets funnier — the fact that the industry standard for evaluating AI video is, for some reason, Will Smith eating spaghetti, which two years ago looked like horror and now looks nearly cinematic. Rui pushes back on the whole enterprise: what is any of this actually for, other than tricking people? Roberto answers with a nice reframe — the dualidad de la naturaleza humana, that any tool (a hammer, a Barbie doll, an AI video generator) can be used to build or to break, and it's not possible to make anything the whole world will agree is good. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#33
August 31 · 43 min
Episode #33: Why It's Smart To Change Your Mind | Intermediate Spanish Conversation
There's a Spanish saying: es de sabios cambiar de opinión — changing your mind is what wise people do. Roberto lives by it. He experiments constantly, gives things a fair trial, and if the data doesn't back up the plan, he quietly reverses course. His most recent experiment: after not using a cleaning lady for a year to try doing it himself, he quietly rehired a new one this morning after running the actual math on his time. In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto pick apart what actually stops most people from changing their minds — the identity stuff, the ego, the political tribal instinct — and what real intellectual honesty looks like when you're wrong. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) start with the difference between simple decisions and identity-level convictions (religion, morals, patriotism) — and how almost nothing is really black or white when you look closely. Roberto shares his "Rainmaker" mindset: nothing is permanent, so try things, gather data, and adjust. Rui sees the same instinct in his research — you can have a beautiful idea, but if it doesn't work in the real world, it doesn't count for anything. From there they land on the bigger obstacle: ego. Roberto's theory is that most people can't change their minds because admitting they were wrong costs them more than being wrong does. They separate two kinds of debate — one where both sides are trying to find the truth, one where both sides are just trying to win — and Rui adds a nice nuance: you can be intelligent and still enter a debate to win, as long as you're willing to change your mind later when the evidence shows up. Politics is where all of this breaks down, because unlike math or science, there is no single correct answer to compare against. They wrap by teeing up next week's rabbit hole: Roberto's cousin explaining that what makes a live concert magical is the tiny imperfections that only musicians catch, the Midland singer dropping his mic mid-song, and the AI language-teacher avatars that can almost do Roberto's job — almost. Plus: Rui is still adjusting to Boston and his new job, and Roberto is in a transition period (four trips to the movie theater this week alone). 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#32
August 24 · 42 min
Episode #32: Milestones, Multiple Selves & The Fights Not Worth Fighting | Intermediate Spanish
Roberto had a custom belt buckle made for himself. Five stars on each side — one for every thousand lessons he taught over four and a half years on the platform where he first met Rui. He's showing it on the podcast this week, which is not something he'd normally do; he describes himself as a very private person, and this is a piece of his life almost nobody has seen. In this rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto start with the small personal tradition of celebrating your own milestones and drift into something much bigger: the strange fact that dozens of versions of you exist inside other people's heads, and how much of life's friction come from mismatching persepctives. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) start with Roberto's habit of buying himself gifts for milestones — the belt buckle as a kind of "retiring as champion" trophy for 5,000 lessons — and compare it to the tradition of engraving personal dates on the back of a watch. Rui offers a nice reframing: objects like these are less about celebration and more about being a physical register of your life, and Roberto connects that to something a student said to him recently that has stuck — "one of the reasons humans want a partner is because we need a witness to our human experience." From there they open the door to the harder idea: the Roberto who lives in his friends' heads is completely different from the Roberto in his enemies' heads, his ex's head, or the head of someone with a crush on him — and most interpersonal friction is really a mismatch between those versions. Roberto shares a recent uncomfortable conversation he chose not to reply to, and the reasoning behind it: "if you win the fight, you don't actually win anything." They wrap with two beautifully practical extensions of the same idea — a BJJ coach's video that concludes the best defense in a street fight is often to just walk away, Roberto's lawyer friend's line that "a bad solution beats a good problem," and Rui's parents' advice for a mugging (give them everything, your things are replaceable and you are not). Plus: Rui went back to Atlanta for a wedding and noticed how much hotter it is than Boston, and Roberto spent the week in Chihuahua at a country festival. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#31
August 10 · 49 min
Episode #31: The Butterfly Effect — Chaos, Chance & How This Podcast Exists | Intermediate Spanish
The U.S. official who chose the targets for the atomic bomb had once visited Kyoto, years before the war, and fallen in love with a garden there. When it came time to make the decision, he pulled Kyoto off the list and put Nagasaki in its place. Because of one trip years earlier, millions of lives were rerouted forever. In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto pull apart the butterfly effect — how the tiniest, most invisible choices set off chains of consequence, and how far back those chains stretch in every direction, including the origin of this podcast itself. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) start with the science — Rui walks through Chaos theory and why weather forecasts fall apart after three days no matter how good the model is, and Roberto lays out why most people misread cause and effect (thinking one-factor when almost every real-world phenomenon is exponentially multi-factor). They cover COVID as a global butterfly effect that started with one person at one market, the ecosystems being quietly rearranged by species none of us have ever heard of, and the moments in history that turned on a single postponed decision. Then it gets personal: Roberto's parents met only because his grandfather decided to move to León decades before either of them was born. They close with the Buddhist framing (that suffering comes from attachment, and one way to end it is to stop clinging), a small everyday version of the same idea (Roberto's obsession with a clean truck vs. rainy season), and finally the actual butterfly effect that led to this podcast. Rui's friend's wedding in Colombia sent him back to Spanish. He picked one out of tens of thousands of teachers on italki, and it happened to be Roberto. The pandemic had already forced Roberto online, which was the only reason he was on that platform at all. And then, mid-lesson one day, an idea appeared. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#30
August 3 · 42 min
Episode #30: The Tiger In Your Head — Awkwardness, Placebos & Flow State | Intermediate Spanish
Roberto has a phrase he loves: fear makes the tiger look bigger. If your reaction to a situation is emotional, your brain quietly inflates it until it doesn't match reality anymore — and half the time, nobody around you has any idea it's happening. In this week's rabbit hole (a direct continuation from Episode 29), Rui and Roberto start with the everyday moments where nobody has taught you how to react — the Happy Birthday sing-along, a stranger crying, standing alone at a party you don't want to be at — and end up somewhere more useful: you can manipulate your own mind on purpose, and the best performers all quietly do. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) start by comparing their default reactions to awkward moments (mostly: do nothing, keep a poker face) and land on the reassuring insight that the people around us are not thinking about us nearly as much as we think they are. From there they get into the flip side — you can use that same amplification for your benefit. They cover Napoleon Hill's Think and Grow Rich and the argument between Roberto and his psychologist friend about whether self-suggestion is a spiritual gimmick or just intentional placebo, why gym playlists and pre-interview breathing exercises count, and Tony Robbins' little bounce-and-yell ritual before he hits the stage. Roberto brings a great example from teaching — his 30-minute "warm-up" English conversations with clients before their real English meetings, essentially getting their brains onto the right track before the pressure hits. And they wrap with two more layers: Jordan Belfort's Straight Line System argument that the fastest way to build rapport is to skip the small talk and cut straight to the customer's problem, and Roberto's reflection on how much sales has changed in the twelve years since he took that course — from cold-calling factories from a phone book to the fully online, algorithm-driven world we live in now. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#29
July 27 · 44 min
Episode #29: The Domino Effect — How One Good Habit Changes Everything | Intermediate Spanish
Roberto has noticed a pattern. When someone starts making a positive change — hitting the gym, cleaning up their space, cutting back on drinking — other good things quietly start showing up in their life too. New opportunities. Better sleep. That indefinable "glow" where someone looks different and you can't quite say what changed. In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto try to figure out why one small positive habit tends to knock down dominos in every direction — and why the reverse works just as reliably (and much more quietly). In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) trade two theories about why "one good change" tends to snowball: Roberto's student thinks the good stuff was always there and a positive mindset just makes you notice it, while Rui thinks it's really about the confidence you gain from following through on one change. They land on something Roberto's therapist told him years ago that has stuck with him — a clean apartment both reflects a good mental state and creates one, and the loop works in both directions. Then they get into the harder version of the same idea: negative changes are gradual and dangerous exactly because you don't feel them arriving. From there they detour into the etiquette of compliments — Roberto's habit of giving them intentionally and honestly, why "The Secrets of the Millionaire Mind" argues you should just accept a compliment instead of reflex-returning one, and the deeply awkward moments in adult life where nobody has taught you how to react (compliments from strangers, being sung Happy Birthday, opening a gift). Plus, the moment that melted Roberto: his six-year-old niece wearing the pink cap he gave her every single day of vacation, and telling him, "porque me la diste tú." And on the personal side: Rui just had his first day at his new job, his furniture finally arrived, and he's on the hunt for a tennis team in Boston. Also: Roberto has a new dog. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#28
July 20 · 46 min
Episode #28: World Cup Underdogs & The American Sports Bubble | Intermediate Spanish Conversation
Cabo Verde and Mexico both got knocked out of the World Cup — and both got welcomed home like champions. Meanwhile the United States, got blown out by Belgium, and nobody is throwing them a parade. In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto dig into why underdog stories hit so hard, and what the whole conversation reveals about the American habit of assuming we're the center of the sports universe. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) unpack two very different exits from the World Cup — Mexico's tactical, dignified loss to a much more talented England team, and the United States getting outclassed by Belgium with the entire country expecting a run. They land on the American sports bubble as the deeper story: how the Super Bowl feels enormous inside the U.S. (~200M viewers) but is dwarfed several times over by a single Barcelona–Real Madrid regular-season game, why Americans grew up believing they were the best at everything, and how the NBA is now dominated by Giannis, Luka, and Jokić. Roberto brings a great parallel from professional bull riding — the U.S. PBR final draws 20,000 people in Vegas while Brazil's Barretos rodeo pulls 90,000, and the greatest rider of Roberto's youth was a Brazilian nobody in Vegas thought could compete. They end on an unexpectedly hopeful note: sports globalization as a form of soft diplomacy, with the NFL playing in Mexico for two decades, the G League's Capitanes de Ciudad de México, and Mexican players slowly showing up on NFL rosters. Plus: Rui is officially in Boston, living in an apartment so empty Roberto compares it to an Apple Store, and testing out his first-ever standing desk. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#27
July 6 · 42 min
Episode #27: Souvenirs, Identity & The Case For Standing Out | Intermediate Spanish Conversation
Roberto has a black guitar he doesn't play. It sits in his condo as decoration, and if you ask him about it, he might tell you the real story: it reminds him of a girl with black hair he had a thing with 23 years ago, when he was 17. Rui has a painting of a Krispy Kreme burning down — a citywide inside joke in Atlanta that he's about to hang in his new Boston apartment, where nobody will have any idea what it means. In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto try to figure out why we buy souvenirs — and why the strangest objects in our homes tend to be the ones that best explain who we are. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) trade takes on why humans keep buying trinkets: Rui sees them as a physical manifestation of a memory, Roberto as a way to include the people you love in an experience they didn't share. They compare the practical camp (Roberto's Peruvian pen he uses every day, Rui's Australian mug from his cousin) with the decorative camp (Rui's little Colombian turtle, a Botero hand from Medellín) and land on the same conclusion: souvenirs are conversation-starters, and the weirder they are, the better the story. From there the conversation opens up into a bigger question — is it better to fit in with the group or to stand out? Roberto explains why his cowboy boots and norteño style in beach-town Sinaloa work like a filter (repelling people who won't get him, attracting people who will), and Rui makes the case for a healthy balance. Plus: the Sistine Chapel print behind Roberto and its double meaning (Catholic upbringing + his own agnosticism), a Finnish wooden coffee cup that looks like a wallet, and Roberto's Chihuahua vacation with everyone's kids. And Rui is officially moving to Boston in a week. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#26
June 29 · 46 min
Episode #26: When Money Ruins Sports — Canelo, Jake Paul & Fantasy Football | Intermediate Spanish
Roberto comes out swinging in this one: he thinks Canelo Álvarez — the most famous Mexican boxer in the world — is a disgrace to Mexican boxing. Fixed fights. Hand-picked opponents. Hydration clauses. Even contracts allegedly forcing opponents to lose. In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto trace the messy line between professional sports as a sport and professional sports as a business — through boxing, the NFL, sports betting, and the strange circus that is Jake Paul fighting actual world champions. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) start with the wave of legal sports gambling in the U.S. and the NCAA athletes who are now effectively professional, then go deep on Canelo Álvarez — the title-belt politics, the cherry-picked opponents, and the moment Bivol exposed him after refusing to honor what he says was a contract to lose. From there: Mike Tyson admitting he only took the Jake Paul fight because he needed the money, Anthony Joshua breaking Jake Paul's face when the "circus" tried to go too far, and Roberto's analogy that helps any NFL fan feel it ("imagine the Bengals had to play a team of YouTube influencers — and lost"). They wrap with the fantasy-football debate: Roberto refuses to play because it would make him watch games he doesn't care about, Rui plays it on a second TV but is slowly losing interest. Plus, a shout-out to Roberto's hometown Caudillos de Chihuahua, who just won their third LFA championship on the last play of the game. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#25
June 22 · 43 min
Episode #25: A Coffee Cup Crisis & A Tour of Mexican Regional Music | Intermediate Spanish
For two years, Roberto worked at the same coworking space, finished his coffee, set the empty cup in the sink, and walked out. Until two weeks ago, when he spotted a tiny sign he'd somehow never noticed before: please wash your cup when you're done. Now he's spiraling — has he been doing this wrong the whole time? Has everyone been quietly judging him? In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto trade stories about honest mistakes (in Mexican Spanish, regadas) and end up somewhere very different: a guided tour of Mexico's regional music history. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) talk through Roberto's coffee-cup crisis — and a shared germaphobic insight about why "everyone washes their own cup" is a system that depends on everyone actually doing it right. They get into Roberto's collection of small personal contradictions (environmentalist with a V8 pickup, no microwave but a Yeti, prefers paying someone to do his laundry over installing a washer), and then take an unexpected detour into the last 30 years of Mexican regional music — country in the '90s, Intocable's grupera in the early 2000s, duranguense, the very brief and very strange "tribal" electronic fusion era, and the current dominance of banda sinaloense. Roberto explains why narcocultura crosses a line for him — not the genre itself, but the glorification of the cartels destroying his country. They wrap with a U.S. parallel: how regional country (Toby Keith's Texas vs. Alan Jackson's South vs. Nashville pop) and the violence in rap lyrics line up with the same conversation. Plus, a quick check-in: Rui is finishing his thesis, flying to Boston next week to find an apartment, and running on empty. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#24
June 15 · 45 min
Episode #24: Unboxing Videos & Why Experts See What We Can't | Intermediate Spanish Conversation
A barista hands Rui a coffee and tells him it tastes like a strawberry Pop-Tart. Rui is skeptical — there's no way this is going to taste like a strawberry Pop-Tart — but he tries it, and… she's not wrong. Why do experts get to use words that don't seem to belong, and how come they're usually right? In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto start with the strange world of unboxing videos and end up somewhere bigger: intuition, flow, and what 10,000 hours of doing anything actually buys you. Plus, Rui shares some big personal news — he just landed a new job and is moving to Boston in six weeks. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) pick apart why people watch other people open boxes on the internet, and where the line is between honest review and "paid collaboration." They cover micro-influencers as a more precise marketing tool than Taylor Swift, why Marques Brownlee's "they sent it for free but they're not paying me" disclaimer matters, and how the best unboxing videos sneak in something poetic — like the Ferrari F80 reviewer who said pushing the car to its limits is "signing a contract with physics and hoping it doesn't read the fine print." From there they get into the bigger question: why do musicians describe a sound as "shinier," chefs call a flavor "nostalgic," and Roberto's dad teach him that riding a motorcycle requires "not fear, but a little paranoia"? Roberto and Rui land on the same answer — that real expertise feels like intuition, and that intuition is just thousands of hours of pattern recognition the rest of us never put in. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#23
June 8 · 43 min
Episode #23: Why The Best Nights Are The Ones You Didn't Plan | Intermediate Spanish Conversation
Roberto goes to the mall by himself on a Sunday — eats sushi, watches a mediocre movie, sends a friend a random text on the way out. By the end of the night he's bar-hopping with two friends, eating tacos at midnight, and laughing harder than he has in weeks. None of it was planned. And Roberto, by his own admission, is a planner. In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto try to figure out why the unplanned nights so often turn out to be the best ones — and where the line is when spontaneity starts to mess with the rest of your life. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) compare notes as two self-described planners. Roberto talks about organizing his 40th birthday yacht party a month and a half in advance while his younger friends kept telling him to chill, and then walks through the chain of small decisions that turned his quiet Sunday into a three-stop night out with friends from three different generations (40, 30, and 23 — basically the Ghosts of Spontaneous Plans Past, Present, and Future). They land on the same rule for when spontaneity becomes a problem: the moment it disrupts the rhythm that holds your real life together. Plus: Roberto's old habit of keeping a "spontaneity kit" (fresh clothes, toothbrush, deodorant) in his car at twenty, why FOMO hits harder when you're young, and Rui's weekly food-tracking discipline that gives him the weekend off — a small case study in why balance beats discipline alone. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#22
June 1 · 45 min
Episode #22: Pop Culture, Cringey Old Emails & Why Easy Tech Always Wins | Intermediate Spanish
Roberto's first email was named after a 1973 Mustang nobody his age recognized. Rui's was a crude reference to an obscure college football player nobody would recognize either. Both of them were dead convinced they had the coolest email address on the planet. In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto take a generational lap through pop culture — what used to be cool, what tech actually wins, and what the kids of today are never going to understand. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) compare notes across a 13-year age gap. They reminisce about Blockbuster as the original date night, why Hugh Hefner playing Pac-Man for hours was peak '80s celebrity content, and how the Hotmail-vs-Yahoo divide actually mapped to geography (Mexican friends had Hotmail, Roberto's American friends had Yahoo). They land on a bigger idea — that in tech, easy always beats configurable. MySpace let you tweak your profile with Java; Facebook didn't, and Facebook won. Android does more; iPhone wins because there's no friction. Plus: Roberto's "vampire problem" (his Apple ID is locked to a Hotmail account that no longer exists), why stand-up comedy is a near-perfect time capsule of the era it was made in, and Roberto's polite but real disappointment with his new AirPods. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#21
May 25 · 41 min
Episode #21: Coincidences, Luck & How to Create Your Own | Intermediate Spanish Conversation
Rui blows a tire on his birthday in a sketchy part of town and somehow coasts to a stop in the parking lot of the only tire shop within miles — closed, but with a stranger standing outside who fixes it for ten dollars so he can still make his golf tee time. A miracle? A gift from the universe? Or just statistics doing what statistics do? In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto pull apart what coincidences really are, and whether you can do something about them. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) trade the mystical and the statistical takes on luck — and end up agreeing that even a fully logical brain can't help feeling a little awe when the math lines up. Roberto tells the story of how he met his first friend in Mazatlán through a cascade of coincidences (their dogs hit it off, she turned out to be from his hometown in Chihuahua, her parents live blocks from his), and explains why he thinks you can engineer your own luck by changing where you live and how you spend your time. Along the way: a finance professor's "if an investment feels exciting, you're doing it wrong" rule, Rui's "expected value" framework for trusting the process over the result, and why religious, emotional, and logical people each handle the gap between effort and outcome in completely different ways. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#20
May 18 · 40 min
Episode #20: Elisa — A Polyglot's Guide to Learning Languages | Intermediate Spanish Conversation
Elisa speaks five languages — German, English, French, Spanish, and Dutch — and is studying Korean on the side. She's lived in Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Mexico, and now Canada. And when Roberto first heard her speak Spanish, he didn't think she was German at all. So what's her secret? In this week's rabbit hole, Rui meets Elisa for the first time and the three of them dig into what actually works (and what definitely doesn't) when you're trying to learn a language from scratch. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) are joined by Elisa, a German polyglot living in Montreal. She shares the unusual trick that keeps her languages from blurring together — treating each one like a different muscle that needs its own rest day — and explains why she lived in Aguascalientes for seven months to break through her speaking block. Along the way: Roberto's metaphor trick for getting unstuck mid-sentence, the simple words formal classes never teach you (Elisa didn't learn "pájaro" until she saw a Botero statue), why Duolingo alone won't get you fluent, and a story about lucha libre that ends with Elisa playing emergency-room translator. A reminder that progress in a language is never linear — and that patience matters more than talent. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#19
May 11 · 43 min
Episode #19: The Paradox of Choice — Why Too Many Options Paralyze Us | Intermediate Spanish
Roberto walks into a sushi restaurant and the menu has so many pages he can't pick a roll. Rui opens Netflix and his food goes cold before he settles on a show. We've all been there — but at what point did having more options stop making life better and start making it worse? In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto pick apart the strange modern problem of being saturated with choice, from fast-food menus to $1,000 phone purchases. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) compare the freedom of a four-option Michelin menu to the chaos of Taco Bell's "build your own combo" — and land on Roberto's theory that Taco Bell is basically a printer with three colors of ink. They get into the illusion of options (how Coke and Pepsi or two nearly identical sushi rolls trick you into thinking you're choosing), the real cost of being impulsive vs. comparing prices, and Roberto's iPhone hunt that saved him hundreds of dollars but took a week. Plus: Roberto's stolen wheel cap and Rui's near-impulse Whoop purchase, both case studies in how we've lost our patience for anything that isn't immediate. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#18
May 4 · 43 min
Episode #18: How To Make Yourself Do Things You Don't Want To Do | Intermediate Spanish Conversation
Every adult has a list of things they really don't want to do — and somehow has to find a way to do them anyway. Editing a paper. Going to the gym on a day you'd rather sleep in. Spending time with your partner's social circle when it's not your scene. So what actually works? Rui and Roberto trade strategies in this week's rabbit hole and end up somewhere unexpected: the answer might be less about willpower and more about the people around you. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) compare their internal motivation tactics — Rui dangles a snack or a run as a reward beforehand, while Roberto only treats himself after a job well done. Roberto admits he's a little egoísta about his time, opens up about a personal project he's been perfecting for four years, and explains why he watches classical music concerts and football games alone. Along the way they land on the Mike Tomlin "volunteers, not hostages" philosophy, the double standard we all have when giving advice vs. taking it, and why a close friend asking the right questions might be the most constructive form of social pressure there is. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning
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#17
April 27 · 46 min
Episode #17: Small Pleasures & Acquired Tastes | Intermediate Spanish Conversation
Roberto just turned 40 — and he still doesn't feel like a real adult. That kicks off a conversation about "las pequeñas cosas": the tiny, almost stupidly simple things that quietly make life better. A woman jamming to music behind the counter at the Oxxo. A perfectly clean apartment on the morning of your birthday. A black coffee that turns a workday you didn't want to do into something tolerable. From there Rui and Roberto fall into bigger questions: why are some pleasures acquired tastes (coffee, wine, cleaning the kitchen), and what do your preferences actually say about who you are? In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) talk about being present, the strange feeling of not feeling like an adult at any age, and Roberto's theory that "we're all improvising" no matter how old we get. Highlights include Roberto's hot take that Starbucks pumpkin spice drinks aren't actually coffee, the surprising joy of making your bed every morning, and a thread connecting black coffee, Cabernet Sauvignon, stout beer, classic rock, and a Harley Davidson — Roberto's "pure and powerful" theory of personal taste. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works.
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