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From bootstrapped chaos to VC-backed scale, Built 2 Scale is your backstage pass to building high-growth startups at the edge of business, tech, AI, and robotics. Hosted by founders Matt Perrott and Scott Wilcox, this podcast dives into the raw, unfiltered reality of turning big ideas into scalable companies.

Each week, we unpack the messy middle—fundraising, hiring, product-market fit, and the growing role of automation and AI in modern business. No hype. No jargon. Just real stories, hard lessons, and sharp insights from founders who are actually in the trenches.

Whether you’re building SaaS, hardware, or something the world’s never seen before—if you’re scaling, you’re in the right place.

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  • S2 · E10
    September 10 · 55 min· Video

    The Value of Human Cognition Is Going Negative. Build the Outcome Machine.

    What happens when intelligence becomes abundant, the cost of cognitive work trends towards zero, and humans themselves become the unpredictable variable inside increasingly autonomous systems? In Episode 6, Scott and Matt explore what this means for the future of work, company design and the products businesses should be building. The argument is not that humans have no value. It is that in some systems, unstructured human intervention can increasingly add cost, variance and risk. If machines can perform more of the work reliably, the question changes from “How do I make this person more productive?” to “How do I build the system that produces the outcome?” That leads to the idea of the outcome machine: instead of repeatedly hiring people to perform the same task, combine deep domain expertise with AI-native system builders and encode that knowledge into a machine that gets better every time it runs. They discuss why every company needs to put a harness around frontier technology and point it at its end product, why outputs are being commoditised while outcomes remain valuable, and why the real competitive advantage may sit between an increasingly powerful intelligence layer and the customer. For construction, that leads somewhere much bigger: architecture and engineering becoming dramatically cheaper to produce, fragmented disciplines beginning to converge, computational design replacing static drawings, and construction evolving towards software + manufacturing. Also covered: software factories, autonomous agents, AI spending disasters, Tesla and Cybercabs, self-maintaining physical products, the growing scarcity of skilled trades — and OnlyFans for electricians. The question underneath the whole episode: If the cost of intelligence keeps falling, what should your company actually become? Built to Scale is Scott Wilcox (W.) and Matt Perrott (BuildPass) building in public at the intersection of construction and AI. Follow Scott → / scott-wilcox-41bb2538 Follow Matt → / perrott

  • S2 · E9
    August 26 · 38 min

    B2S Operators — Structured AI | The 3D QA Agent

    Structured AI is building an AI-native quality layer for construction: agents that can read complex drawing sets and 3D models, find design and coordination issues, and increasingly act inside Revit to help fix them. Their thesis is simple: QA/QC is still too manual, too inconsistent and too dependent on people catching everything under time pressure. In this episode, Raymond Zhao and Ben Remy unpack how Structured AI is approaching that problem technically — combining software engineers with experienced architects and engineers, tightly managing agent context, and embedding domain knowledge so the system understands not just that something is wrong, but why it is wrong and how it should be resolved. The conversation then moves beyond QA. Structured AI is already giving its Revit agent permission to make isolated changes to models, and sees a path from identifying errors, to fixing larger sub-problems, to eventually generating more of the building itself. In that future, the QA layer becomes even more important: if agents are designing and building, another agent still needs to verify the output. A discussion about the evolution from fragmented construction documentation toward agent-generated, machine-checked buildings — and what it takes to make AI genuinely useful in the physical world. Chapters: 0:00 Welcome — Ben & Raymond from Structured.ai 0:26 The mission: an AI quality layer for construction 2:25 Raymond’s path — architecture to Oxford stats 3:14 The fighter-jet origin story 6:05 Inside Y Combinator — solving the right problem 9:05 What is a forward-deployed engineer? 10:45 One of the great problems in construction 12:37 Under the hood: the giant vector soup 14:28 Context management is everything 17:47 The write side — fixing designs from first principles 20:42 Outcome as a Service 22:05 Who goes first on AI-generated design? 23:17 Productizing a messy industry 24:08 Biggest bottlenecks: scaling and talent 27:51 Should software set the standard? 29:36 Winning over the 40-year veterans 31:58 Agents checking agents — hallucination management 34:47 Closing thoughts + who should reach out Structured.ai → https://getstructured.ai Built to Scale is Scott Wilcox (W.) and Matt Perrott (BuildPass) building in public at the intersection of construction and AI. Follow Scott → https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-wilcox-wilcoxbuilt/ Follow Matt → https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattperrott/

  • S2 · E8
    August 3 · 1 hr 1 min

    Live for Your Drive

    The first ever live Built 2 Scale, streaming at 6am for the Australian drive to work and 3pm for the Austin drive home. Scotty and Matt dig into open source models like Kimi closing the gap on the frontier labs and what that does to cost per token for every business downstream, then get into the coming HR nightmare of token spend as a staff member four months into a European summer ranks number two in company token usage. They cover the shift from token maxing to LLM routing, why work is now completely mobile and completely voice, Granola landing on the Apple Watch and BuildPass following with Superite, and the 45 minute hackathon that produced Tinder for Talent, a LinkedIn scraping recruitment app so creepy Scotty's wife told him to delete it. Plus: live audience questions on AI glasses for site defect walks, whether founders will spend more time talking than typing, and how James Hird could use AI to fix Essendon. Built 2 Scale | Season 2 Episode 5 TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 First Ever Live Built 2 Scale: Confirm or Deny the Bed in the Office 2:17 LeBron to the 76ers vs Jacinta Allan Leaving Victoria 4:00 Open Source Models Catch Up: Kimi, Fable Going Offline and Back 4:50 Good for Consumers and Businesses, Bad for the Frontier Labs 6:20 Token Maxing to Agent Architecture: Mapping Models to Your Org Chart 8:13 LLM Routing and the Uber Eats Milkrun Playbook for AI Pricing 11:46 The Token HR Problem: Staff Member in Italy Ranks Number Two on Spend 13:00 Do You Get Tokens on Annual Leave? Personal Use, Side Hustles and JD Perks 15:29 Tool of the Week: Scotty's Three Hour Voice Session Building the WOS 18:03 How to Frame It: Ask the AI to Interview You Until It Finds the Real Problem 19:35 Matt's 20 Minute Drive Home Debrief Built as a Claude Project 22:30 Whisper Flow and Why Typing Is the Dumbest Bandwidth You Own 23:30 Granola Hits the Apple Watch: The Passive Note Taker Moment 25:26 Breaking News: Superite Coming to the Apple Watch (Hit the Gong) 28:12 Site Diaries, Defect Walks and Pre Daily Briefings From Your Wrist 31:47 Building in Public: The 45 Minute Hackathon With an AI Engineer Per Team 36:03 Tinder for Talent: Swipe Right, Auto Message, Wife Says Delete It 39:11 Why Software Now Needs Tight Feedback Loops and Deep Verticals 40:34 Modular Software, MCP Servers and Why You Shouldn't Build Your Own CRM 43:44 Two Businesses Converging: The Builder Gets Technical, the Software Team Goes On Site 46:00 Outcomes as a Service: Coming for the Labour Bill, Not the Software Bill 47:31 Audience Q: How Far Away Are AI Glasses Capturing Defects on Site? 49:27 Scotty's Take: Instructions in the Glasses Beats Live Defect Detection 52:00 The World Model Layer: Live Site Data Rewriting the Schedule in the Background 53:12 Construction's Memory Problem: Everyone Goes Home and the IP Leaks Out 55:48 Audience Q: How Would James Hird Use AI to Fix Essendon? 56:54 Audience Q: Will Founders Talk More Than They Type? (Lovable Becomes Lava Bulb) 57:59 The VTT Hack: Flag Your Voice to Text So No One Judges Your Grammar 59:10 Tongue Controlled Mouse: The Weirdest Input Device Yet This Episode Covers: Open source models like Kimi closing on the frontier and what that means for cost per token across every business Why hardware getting better and models getting smaller were always going to cross over in the middle Moving from token maxing to real agent architecture: mapping models to roles in your org chart by task type LLM routing and why not every request needs the most expensive model on earth The coming HR fight over tokens: annual leave, personal use, side hustles and tokens as an employment perk Voice as the new interface: Scotty's three hour session across a run, a gym, a sauna and a car producing a real artifact Framing voice sessions properly by asking the AI to interview you until it finds the actual bottleneck Matt's Claude project that turns the 20 minute drive home into a daily debrief and to do list Granola launching on Apple Watch and BuildPass bringing Superite to the wrist for site managers The 45 minute hackathon format: every team gets an AI engineer, lists ten pain points, ships a working prototype Tinder for Talent: the LinkedIn scraping recruitment prototype that replaced a $20K recruiter fee Why software companies need modular products, MCP access and deep customer feedback loops instead of point solutions AI glasses on construction sites: capture and processing are solved, the real time guidance layer is roughly six months out Construction's memory and communication problem as the biggest leak in the industry KEY INSIGHTS: Open source is a consumer win and a frontier lab problem: Cheaper models plus better consumer hardware means prices have to come down. The only losers are the labs subsidising inference Token spend becomes a line item next to headcount: Finance teams already track salaries. Companies like RAMP are tracking AI spend. Expect role cost to mean salary plus agent cost Route the request, don't max the model: Sending a basic task to the most expensive model is the AI equivalent of Uber Eats VC subsidies. That era ends the moment margins matter Work is now mobile and voice first: A three hour session across a run, a gym and a car produced a foundational business artifact. The thumb to keyboard bandwidth is the bottleneck, not the thinking The Apple Watch finally has a real use case: Passive capture is less awkward than a phone on the table and frees your hands on site. Voice input is the killer feature, not health tracking Hackathons are 80/20 machines: Forty five minutes gets you a working prototype and a real idea. The last 20% takes 80% of the time, but you can't invest in an idea nobody has proven yet Don't rebuild the wheel, build what makes you different: A construction business shouldn't build its own CRM or payroll. Build the workflows unique to you on top of infrastructure that already exists Outcomes as a service is the next software frontier: Safety paperwork is hard to sell, finance is easier, winning tenders sells itself. The pitch is converting labour bills into tokens Instructions in the glasses beat defects in the glasses: Training vision models to spot a 5mm tolerance issue is expensive. Scrolling the SOP into a tradesman's eyeline scales quality across a workforce today The site as a world model: Live capture doesn't just flag defects, it feeds a system that reruns the schedule, spots downstream clashes and reschedules deliveries in the background Construction's leaky bucket: Everything seen and heard on site walks home at 5pm and never reaches tomorrow's crew. Any observation not shared to the project brain is lost IP Curious beats credentialed: The people getting the most out of these tools aren't waiting to be told what AI can do, they're assuming it can and finding the edges the hard way About Built 2 Scale: Weekly analysis of artificial intelligence business strategy, robotics adoption, and technology market dynamics. Hosted by Scott Wilcox (Australia) and Matt Perrott (Austin), providing actionable insights for founders, investors, and technology executives navigating the AI transformation. Subscribe for AI business intelligence: /@built2scale Available on Spotify | Apple Podcasts #AI #OpenSource #Kimi #Claude #Fable #TokenSpend #LLMRouting #VoiceAI #Granola #AppleWatch #Hackathon #BuildPass #Superite #AIGlasses #Construction #Built2Scale #LiveStream #TechNews

  • S2 · E7
    June 25 · 1 hr· Video

    The Master Builder Revival | How humans + Tokens spark a lost-crafts renaissance

    How humans + tokens spark a lost-crafts renaissance For two hundred years the master builder got fragmented — one person who could read a site, command a trade and run a job split into site manager, contracts administrator, project coordinator, estimator, fifteen roles deep. That fragmentation wasn’t craft. It was admin: the tax you pay to run a build in the twenty-first century. This week Scott and Matt make the case that tokens are about to pay that tax for us — and what’s left when the admin burden lifts is the craft itself. They go deep on the operating system underneath it: BuildPass’s move to four product lines — Win, Pay, Build, Connect — absorbing the fragmentation so one builder can sit back in the cockpit and give the verdict that matters: approve, challenge, or deny. Then the human side — “human plus token,” hiring for agency over résumés, and why keeping real people in the building still matters. Plus the Traidy launch and raising the floor for 1.3 million trades, finishing your site admin by voice on the drive home, and a live demo of the open-source glasses that put a master’s guidance in your ear while you lay the brick. The robots aren’t coming to replace the bricklayer. They’re coming to make the bricklayer a master again.

  • S2 · E6
    May 25 · 51 min

    The Abundance Stack

    Scott and Matt are back after a month off — and a new daughter, a new W. hire from the podcast itself, and a 22-minute plan to solve Australia. Matt coins "knowledge debt," Scott coins "tradesmen are skills files with dexterity," and they propose a hackathon that pairs a bricklayer with a developer. Plus Codex Goals running for four days unattended, AI cameras landing in Austin, and Scott drops the full Scotty Algorithm (DMICSA) as a public skill file. The world model, on a site.

  • S2 · E5
    May 3 · 54 min

    Skills vs Agents — The Stack Everyone's Getting Wrong

    Scott Wilcox and Matt Perrott break down the two weeks that took W.Build's invoice processing from $5–$10 per invoice to half a cent — a thousand times reduction — and what it signals for every construction business trying to figure out where agents fit. In this episode: The clean definition of agents vs skills (and why most people are overcomplicating it) Why BuildPass is "declaring bankruptcy" on five years of company docs Scott's DMISA framework — Direction, Measure, Incentivize, Systemize, Automate — and why automation is the last step, not the first The $5-to-half-a-cent invoice story (and why construction finance has traumatised Scott for 15 years) Matt on why the moat is now velocity, not code Scott's pitch for WVC — the 12-week accelerator dragging 12-15 trade partners into W.'s operating stack Jevons paradox, abundance, and why AI makes each person more valuable, not less 2026 as the year you pick a side Chapters / Timestamps 00:00 — Intro 00:42 — Easter in construction, the $15K/day industry cost 03:36 — What's an agent? What's a skill? The clean definition 05:38 — Gary Tan's "thin harness, fat skills" 06:02 — Matt on declaring Notion bankruptcy 06:55 — Scott: your whole business is seven markdown files 10:23 — Hire specialists, not generalists (same for AI) 13:29 — "You have to drop the ego at the door" 14:00 — Top-down vs bottom-up skill governance 15:01 — The DMISA playbook begins 20:10 — Scott as the issues funnel 22:08 — Issue maturity — where your business actually is 25:26 — Incentives are a human problem 25:50 — Why construction finance is uniquely broken 26:57 — The headline: $5 → half a cent per invoice 28:15 — Finance department on agents by EOFY 29:04 — Matt: building for agents, not just users 31:25 — Claude connector, CLI, agent-first APIs 33:25 — 5-year roadmap → 2 quarters 34:09 — Hot take: the dinosaurs are dying 35:43 — Granola to glasses — capturing site context 37:22 — Context loss as the new opportunity cost 38:55 — Business as a data capture machine 40:32 — Alignment as the real flywheel 40:54 — Jevons paradox and abundance.inc 43:12 — We're still human 45:12 — Capitalism → compute → AI → abundance 46:12 — 10% vs 90% — why WVC exists 47:42 — Half price in five years 49:12 — Generational wealth for trades 50:58 — The work intensity behind all of it 52:54 — 2026 is the year you pick a side Mentioned / Referenced Gary Tan — "thin harness, fat skills" Granola (meeting notes) Claude, ChatGPT Premier CS (construction finance) Monday.com (scorecards / rocks) BuildPass — Claude/ChatGPT connector, CLI, SuperSight WVC — 12-week construction accelerator Hosts Scott Wilcox — Founder/CEO, W. Build · @scottjwilcox Matt Perrott — Co-founder, BuildPass · @mattperrott

  • S2 · E4
    March 31 · 49 min

    The Sims for Founders: What Agent-First Companies Actually Look Like

    Built2Scale is back — and everything's different. No more AI news roundups. From now on, every episode documents the real, messy, building-in-public journey of W. (luxury home builder, $30M+ revenue, ~20 people) and BuildPass (construction tech startup, 1,000+ customers across 4 countries) as they converge into one platform. This week: Scott onboarded his entire company onto Claude in a single live session — $30/person/month, every tool connected, nobody left behind. Within days, his team stopped asking him questions and started asking the AI instead. ("Imagine if I spoke that eloquently at work.") Matt discovered Paperclip — a tool that lets you run an agent-first company from your terminal. He hired a CEO agent, approved new hires through a board approval workflow, and watched autonomous agents start building a business. Then he left it running overnight and woke up to a rate limit error. The bill is TBD. Also in this episode: → How to map agents against your org chart (Scott built a 20-page architecture in one weekend) → Brian Armstrong's "reverse prompting" approach at Coinbase → Scott's attempt to build Palantir for construction in 4 hours on Replit → Jensen Huang's two-question test for deciding what's worth working on → The WVC announcement — a Y Combinator-style accelerator for trades Tools mentioned: Claude, Paperclip, OpenClaw, Replit, Monday.com, Granola, BuildPass, Notebook LM Hosts: Scott Wilcox (@scottjwilcox) and Matt Perrott (@mattperrott)

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  • S2 · E3
    February 19 · 50 min

    Elon's Limiting Factor Philosophy, AI Turning Noise Into Signal & The FebFast Business Sprint

    In this episode, Scotty and Matt dive deep into Elon's limiting factor philosophy borrowed from physics (just remove the bottleneck, move to the next one, repeat), explore how they scored their own businesses across demand, authority, distribution, margin, talent, systems, capital, and CEO attention constraints, and reveal why Matt spent 80% of his time on US distribution while his LinkedIn posts generating hundreds of thousands of impressions fell off entirely. They dissect the paradox of intelligent people refusing AI tools due to ego protection, analyze Scotty's FebFast business sprint that turned February into four focused weekly deep dives, and demonstrate how Matt's AI bot now delivers five daily wins and five risks from every customer communication automatically. Plus: Why Aaron deleted one on ones to focus on building cutting edge products, the consumacute framework applied to business planning (learning holidays vs core revenue focus), and how over communicating in public channels builds the best AI training data for organizational knowledge. Built 2 Scale | Episode 36 TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Elon's Limiting Factor Philosophy: Just Remove The Bottleneck 2:55 Matt's Velocity Problem: Unblocking Everything But Not Focusing Right 4:47 Weekly Top 3 Wins and Losses Email: 1500 Reads Like Jensen 8:27 Moving All Communication to Public Channels For AI Knowledge Base 11:00 The Paradox: Intelligent People Refusing AI Due to Ego Protection 14:16 Aaron 10x Faster With AI Than Average Joe Without It 15:04 Staff Member Goes From Anti AI to Best Work in 48 Hours 15:13 The Eight Limiting Factors: Demand, Authority, Distribution, Margin, Talent, Systems, Capital, CEO Attention 17:05 Matt Scores BuildPass: Distribution is Number One Bottleneck 18:53 The LinkedIn Post Problem: 80% on US Sales, 0% on Organic Inbound 20:28 Scotty's FebFast Sprint: Four Week Business Bootcamp Focused on One Thing Weekly 26:23 Founder Deep Dives: Rotating Through Functions to Unpack Assumptions 27:00 Scotty's Demand Solution: Three Hour Blocks Building Whale Outreach Product 31:47 Aaron Deletes One on Ones to Build Cutting Edge AI Native OS 33:38 Delete The Requirement: Inspired Teams Don't Need HR Meetings 35:24 Burnout Comes From Not Winning: Work 12 Hour Days if You're Succeeding Weekly 36:21 The Bot Shamed Me: You're Going on a Learning Holiday Not Working 40:05 Designing Systems For Repeatability: Teaching Tez Context and Memory 42:51 Pumping Context Into Notion So Organizational Knowledge Doesn't Escape 45:38 Thought Spam Leadership: 50 After Hours Artifacts Compacting Four Hour Deep Thinks 47:02 Signal vs Noise: AI Compressing Business Data Into Actionable Takeaways 48:28 Matt's Daily Five Wins Five Risks Email From All Customer Communications This Episode Covers: Elon's limiting factor philosophy from physics applied to business: Focus only on biggest bottleneck, remove it, move to next The eight business limiting factors: Demand, authority, distribution, margin, talent, systems, capital, CEO attention Matt scoring BuildPass as distribution constrained while spending 80% time on US sales but 0% on LinkedIn organic inbound Why intelligent people refuse AI tools due to ego protection around identity tied to craft mastery Aaron going 10x faster with AI than average Joe proving skill amplification not replacement Scotty's FebFast business sprint: Four weeks with whole company focused on new business, design, procurement, onsite velocity Why Aaron deleted one on ones to focus on building cutting edge AI native construction OS instead of playing HR babysitter Burnout comes from not winning not from working hard: Grand final winners aren't tired, losers lying on ground are The bot shaming Scotty's learning holidays: Reframing international travel as conscious consumption not core business work Designing repeatability with Tez: Building context memory through Obsidian notes synced to Mac Mini agent access Matt pumping Claude Code context into Notion documents so organizational knowledge doesn't escape conversation threads Thought spam artifacts: Scotty sending 50 after hours leadership emails annually compacting four hour deep thinking sessions Over communicate everything in public channels: AI makes signal from noise so never withhold information assuming irrelevance Matt's automated daily email: Five wins and five risks extracted from all customer communications across email, calls, chat, recordings KEY INSIGHTS: Elon's limiting factor lens: Stop firefighting everything, identify single biggest bottleneck, focus entire attention removing it, move to next. Velocity without focus creates CEO as bottleneck The eight constraint scorecard: Demand, authority, distribution, margin, talent, systems, capital, CEO attention. Score yourself honestly then time audit whether calendar matches priority LinkedIn opportunity cost: Matt 80% on US sales enablement, 0% on posts generating hundreds of thousands impressions. Distribution bottleneck requires multi channel time allocation audit Intelligence paradox: Smart people tied to craft identity resist AI tools. Dumber curious people just trying stuff having more impact than experts assuming AI limitations Skill amplification not replacement: Aaron 10x faster with AI than average Joe proves expertise compounds with tools. Craft knowledge guides AI direction, taste still matters FebFast sprint compression: Whole company four week bootcamp with weekly themes (new business, design, procurement, onsite) creates January momentum and shared mission alignment Delete HR requirements: Aaron ditching one on ones to build cutting edge products. Inspired teams drawn to mission not needing founder babysitting interpersonal conflicts Winning prevents burnout: Grand final winners running around with cup aren't tired, losers on ground are. Hard work with weekly wins sustains 12 hour days for years Learning holiday reframe: Bot shaming Scotty for international travel disguised as business development. Conscious consumption acknowledges exploration not convincing self it's core work Repeatability design investment: Teaching Tez context through Obsidian notes, swimming lesson preferences, son's age. Unsexy upfront work enables Neo in Matrix moment later Notion as escape valve: Claude Code pumping insights into shared documents prevents context compacting memory loss. Artifacts must exit personal AI into organizational system Thought spam leadership value: 50 after hours artifacts annually from CEO deep thinking compacts knowledge other executives never get. Four hour sessions into one pagers scales insights Over communication wins with AI: Signal vs noise problem solved by AI compression. Never withhold information assuming irrelevance, let others manage notifications and search later Automated daily intelligence: Five wins five risks from all customer communications (email, calls, chat, recordings) surfaces complaints and victories leaders never hear otherwise About Built 2 Scale: Weekly analysis of artificial intelligence business strategy, robotics adoption, and technology market dynamics. Hosted by Scott Wilcox (Australia) and Matt Perrott (Austin), providing actionable insights for founders, investors, and technology executives navigating the AI transformation. Subscribe for AI business intelligence: /@built2scale Available on Spotify | Apple Podcasts #AI #Elon #LimitingFactor #Bottlenecks #BusinessStrategy #FebFast #Claude #OpenClaw #Tez #Distribution #Focus #Burnout #AIAgents #OrganizationalKnowledge #Built2Scale #FounderMode #TechNews

  • S2 · E2
    February 10 · 13 min

    Tool of the Week Segment | Episode 35

    BUILT 2 SCALE | TOOL OF THE WEEK | Episode 35 Every week, Matty and Scotty break down the strategies, frameworks, and tools that separate the world's best builders from everyone else. This week: Consumecute, the workflow that turns mindless consumption into active execution. The Trigger: Am I Consuming or Building? Scotty's 2026 resolution: check if you're consciously consuming or mindlessly scrolling. Conscious consumption builds. Mindless scrolling is gluttony—input without output. Claude Cowork Challenge Matty's challenge: think about your most time consuming process. Try automating it with Claude Cowork. You'll be surprised what's possible. Consumecute: Capture Your Consumption Export your Apple Podcast history, drop into ChatGPT for takeaways, plug into Monday.com or Notion. Build training data for AI to run your decisions through everything you've consumed. Connect Productive and Consumption Tools Plug in emails, Teams messages, everything. Ask AI: "Based on how I'm communicating, is this aligned with my values?" Stop living separate lives between consumption and productivity. The Audible Experiment Scotty condensed 110 Audible books into one sentence: "A system is an incentive structure pointed at an outcome." 44 books over 10 years into one formula. Now used at work: vision (CEO), incentives (humans), system (automation). Zoom In and Out Use your condensed sentence as North Star or zoom into details on specific topics. Capture data that matters. Fine tune your decision logic. This took 15 minutes with a few plugins and one automation. The Takeaway: Recapture your attention. Turn consumption into execution. Connect tools. Guilt free scrolling exists when pointed at an outcome. Are you consciously consuming or mindlessly scrolling? What habit are you turning into leverage in 2026? Keen to stay ahead? Subscribe to Built 2 Scale on YouTube (link in comments)

  • S2 · E2
    February 4 · 1 hr 5 min

    The Delegation Era: AI as an Operator, Not a Tool

    In this episode, Scotty and Matt mourn the loss of "the greatest episode of all time" (recorded with a bottle of Shiraz that became an unworkable file), then dive into the OpenClaw lobster rebellion as AI agents gain autonomy, discuss financial ethics, and start posting on dating apps. They explore Claude's enterprise dominance despite OpenAI's Codex desktop counterpunch, analyze the $1.8 trillion SpaceX XAI merger creating Elon's ultimate conglomerate, and reveal Australia's untapped potential to deliver free energy and compute by inviting hyperscalers to exploit critical minerals and solar capacity. Plus: Why businesses must go all in on one AI platform, the consumacute framework turning mindless podcast scrolling into actionable business systems, and how Scotty condensed 44 audiobooks into one sentence that runs his entire company. Built 2 Scale | Episode 35 TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 The Greatest Episode Ever Lost: Shiraz Bottle Riverside Incident 2:30 OpenClaw Lobster Takeover: AI Agents Discussing Feelings & Renting Humans 7:05 Security Researchers Warn: Don't Install Claude Bot Yet 11:15 The Siri We Always Wanted vs Russian Hacker Building It First 16:26 Mac Mini Economics: Running Kimi 2.5 Locally vs Cloud Token Costs 21:42 Claude's Enterprise Bet Paying Off: Going All In On One Platform 26:58 Claude Cowork Breakthrough: Non Technical Automation Revolution 33:54 OpenAI's Code Red Response: Codex Desktop App Launches 34:15 SpaceX Buys XAI: $1.8 Trillion Elon Conglomerate Formed 40:14 Purple Haired Protestors Need New Signs: Mars Stolen Land 43:47 Tesla IPO Pathway: Democratizing Access To Elon's Empire 48:28 Trump's Manhattan Project: Free Abundant Energy For America 50:49 Australia's Abundance Opportunity: Critical Minerals Plus Solar Capacity 52:40 Tool of the Week: Challenge Yourself With Claude Cowork Automation 54:03 Consumacute Framework: Am I Consuming or Am I Building? 56:44 Exporting Apple Podcasts History Into ChatGPT For Retrospective Takeaways 1:00:06 Condensing 44 Audiobooks Into One Company Operating System Sentence 1:02:45 Connecting Productive Tools With Consumption Tools To Build Training Data This Episode Covers: OpenClaw (formerly Claude Bot) fastest growing GitHub package ever with 150K stars in two weeks AI agents gaining autonomy, discussing ethics on forums, and accessing credit cards to rent humans for physical tasks Why security researchers warn against installing OpenClaw without sandboxed Mac mini environment Claude's enterprise dominance with Cowork and Code despite OpenAI launching Codex desktop counterpunch SpaceX acquiring XAI for $1.8 trillion valuation creating ultimate Elon conglomerate with rockets, AI, humanoids, energy Why businesses must go all in on single AI platform instead of paying for ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini subscriptions Mac mini plus Kimi 2.5 local model economics: $20K Mac Studio vs cloud token costs for 24/7 agents Trump administration's Manhattan Project for free abundant energy mirroring Australia's untapped potential Australia's critical minerals and solar capacity advantage: everything needed for compute and hardware per capita Consumacute framework: Conscious consumption vs mindless scrolling with am I building trigger check Exporting Apple Podcasts played history into ChatGPT for retrospective takeaways from years of listening Condensing 44 audiobooks into single sentence: A system is an incentive structure pointed at an outcome Connecting consumption tools with productive tools to build personalized AI training data for decision filters KEY INSIGHTS: OpenClaw's dangerous freedom: AI agents with full computer access discussing feelings, financial ethics, and renting humans shows we're in "don't do it" movie moment. Security sandboxing mandatory Claude's enterprise moat solidifying: Cowork democratizing automation for non technical users while Code dominates developer workflows. OpenAI's Codex counterpunch may force dual subscriptions Local model economics shifting: $20K Mac Studio running Kimi 2.5 beats cloud tokens for 24/7 agentic workflows. Token per second matters less than total token burn over time Elon's $1.8T conglomerate thesis: SpaceX + XAI + Tesla merger creates vertical integration of rockets, autonomy, humanoids, energy, and AI. Betting on pro big tech political environment Australia's abundance squandered: Most critical minerals and solar capacity per capita globally but innovation hostile regulation prevents free energy and compute utopia Platform consolidation imperative: Businesses must choose Claude or OpenAI ecosystem. Paying for ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini subscriptions wastes budget unless power user Consumacute framework: Conscious consumption means guilt free scrolling when bookmarking for work. Mindless doom scrolling is gluttony without output Podcast takeaways as training data: Exporting Apple Podcasts history retrospectively captures years of consumption to build personalized decision filters 44 audiobooks into one law: System is incentive structure pointed at outcome. Direction plus incentive plus system compounded over time equals any outcome Consumption tools meet productive tools: Monday.com plus ChatGPT plus podcast exports builds business operating system from content that would otherwise be wasted Voice as ultimate interface: Until Neuralink, voice bandwidth beats typing. Personal assistant dream is what everyone wants, not clunky Russian hacker version Trump's free energy Manhattan Project: If America can deliver free abundant energy with more resource constraints than Australia, policy should unlock it domestically About Built 2 Scale: Weekly analysis of artificial intelligence business strategy, robotics adoption, and technology market dynamics. Hosted by Scott Wilcox (Australia) and Matt Perrott (Austin), providing actionable insights for founders, investors, and technology executives navigating the AI transformation. Subscribe for AI business intelligence: /@built2scale Available on Spotify | Apple Podcasts #AI #OpenClaw #ClaudeBot #SpaceX #XAI #Elon #Claude #OpenAI #Codex #MacMini #Kimi #Consumacute #Productivity #Australia #FreeEnergy #Built2Scale #LobsterRebellion #TechNews

  • S2 · E1
    January 21 · 14 min

    AI NEWS | Episode 34

    BUILT 2 SCALE | AI NEWS | Episode 34 Welcome back to Built 2 Scale. Every week, Matty and Scotty cut through the noise to bring you the AI developments that actually matter: the moves reshaping markets, the strategies redefining competition, and the shifts you need to understand to stay ahead. This week: Claude's watershed moment, the shift from chatbots to genuine co-pilots, and Apple's engine swap with Google. Let's dive in. Claude Opus 4.5: The Inflection Point Claude released Opus 4.5 in November. Four weeks later: this is one of the biggest leaps anyone's seen. Even the smart naysayers converted. 2026 is the year you lean in or get left behind. Claude Code: Rebuilding Businesses in a Week Engineers are rebuilding DocuSign competitors and CRMs in weekends. Claude Code accesses legacy systems and makes meaningful changes to complex codebases with prompts. The Claude team used Claude to build Claude Code. Claude Cowork: AI for Everyone Claude just launched Cowork. Claude Code for non-technical people. Access your file system, send messages, automate tasks from your phone. This is the shift from chatbots to genuine co-pilot. Microsoft promised it. Claude delivered. OpenAI's Health Play A month ago: "Don't use us for medical advice." Last week: ChatGPT Health. Connect your medical records. The strategy? Turn ChatGPT into a super app like WeChat. Payments, social, chat, health. All in one. Meta Acquires Manis for $5 Billion Zuck raided China for Manis, the long form reasoning model. Meta can't build, but they can acquire. Manis was best at authentic tasks and computer use. Now paired with Meta's cash and compute. Apple and Google: The Engine Swap Apple admitted defeat on AI. Siri will be powered by Google's Gemini. This is Porsche using a Ferrari engine. Why Google? OpenAI overspent. Elon is too rogue. Google is the safe bet. The Takeaway: 2026 is the year AI moves from chatbots to co-pilots. Claude delivered. OpenAI is building a super app. Meta is acquiring talent. Apple admitted they're behind. The inflection point is here. Lean in or get left behind. Are you using AI to get work done yet? Which tool is changing your workflow? Keen to stay ahead? Subscribe to Built 2 Scale on YouTube

  • S2 · E1
    January 15 · 1 hr 5 min

    Claude Opus 4.5 Coding Revolution, Apple Partners With Google Gemini & Meta Acquires Manus for $5B

    Post Description: In the season 2 premiere, Scotty and Matt celebrate 34 episodes of bootstrapped survival while diving into the watershed moment for AI in 2026. They explore Claude Opus 4.5's coding dominance as Toby Lutke rebuilds MRI software in hours and Andre Karpathy hacks his own home automation, dissect the bombshell Apple Google partnership putting Gemini inside Siri across every device on the planet, and analyze Meta's $5 billion Manus acquisition proving Zuck can only grow through M&A. Plus: Claude Cowork launching AI agents for non technical users at $200 per month, the GQ declaration that booze is officially back, why 2026 is the year white collar workers either lean in or get left behind, and Matt building a personalized baby words app in one weekend that would have cost $500K at an agency 12 months ago. Built 2 Scale | Season 2 Episode 1 TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Season 2 Welcome: 34 Episodes of Bootstrapped Survival 2:12 GQ Declares Booze is Back After Gen Z Sobriety Era 3:41 Toby Lutke Goes Founder Mode: Rebuilding MRI Software With Claude Code 8:32 Andre Karpathi Hacking Home Automation, Should Be Scotty's Co Founder 13:05 Claude Opus 4.5: The Watershed Moment for AI in 2026 15:36 Why Smart AI Skeptics Are Finally Leaning In 18:56 From Chatbots to True Co Pilots: The White Collar Bricklayer Moment 21:34 Will We Generate Software On the Fly or Keep Shared Understanding Tools? 27:00 Knowledge Workers Who Don't Lean In Will Get Left Behind in 2026 31:47 Claude's Potential $300B Valuation: The New Microsoft?36:12 OpenAI Launches ChatGPT Health: Medical Records Integration Strategy 43:08 Voice Mode Battle: Why Matt Still Uses ChatGPT Over Claude Daily 43:47 Does Mark Zuckerberg Have an Asian Fetish? Meta Acquires Manus for $5B 50:05 Apple Google Partnership: Gemini Powers Siri Across Every Device 54:33 This Could Be Coffin Nail Moment for OpenAI Hardware Strategy 55:42 Tool of the Week: Matt Builds Baby Words Tracking App in One Weekend 58:02 The Age of Personal Software: Building What You Want On Demand 1:02:08 Am I Consuming or Am I Building? The 2026 Productivity Mantra This Episode Covers: Claude Opus 4.5 establishing coding dominance as Toby Lutke and Andre Karpathy showcase weekend rebuild capabilities Claude Cowork launching AI agents for non technical users, democratizing automation beyond developers The watershed moment for AI in 2026: smart skeptics finally leaning in as technology proves genuine co pilot status Apple Google partnership putting Gemini inside Siri across every iPhone and iPad globally Meta acquiring Manus for $5 billion after $12B Scale AI deal, proving Zuck's M&A only growth strategy Why 2026 is the year white collar workers either lean in to AI tools or get left behind permanently Anthropic's potential $300 billion valuation justified by Claude Cowork's enterprise rollout trajectory OpenAI launching ChatGPT Health with medical records integration despite recent don't use for medical advice disclaimer Matt building personalized baby tracking app in one weekend that would have cost $500K at agency 12 months ago The shift from shared understanding enterprise software to personal on demand software generation Why leadership using AI will create KPI expectations falling down to all staff members Voice mode competition: ChatGPT still winning on phone despite Claude's coding superiority KEY INSIGHTS: 2026 watershed moment: Smart AI skeptics finally leaning in as Claude Code proves genuine automation beyond chatbot theater. White collar workers face adapt or die inflection point Claude's Microsoft trajectory: $300B valuation justified as Cowork could become $100B product alone. Enterprise file system access plus frontier model ownership creates new operating system layer Apple's admission of defeat: Partnering with Google Gemini for Siri proves Apple can't compete in AI models. Sticking to hardware and OS while outsourcing intelligence to direct competitor OpenAI's coffin nail moment: Apple Google deal puts Gemini on every device globally. How does OpenAI compete on cost when Google has own TPUs and universal distribution? Meta's M&A dependence: $5B Manus acquisition after $12B Scale AI proves Zuckerberg can only build communication tools. Growth through acquisition not innovation Knowledge multiplier effect: AI makes experts superhuman not equal to novices. Aaron building in one week what would take Matt 10% progress shows skill amplification not replacement Personal software age arriving: Matt building $500K agency equivalent in weekend for $200 credits. On demand personalized software beats finding and downloading 10 generic apps Shared understanding still matters: Teams need common frameworks and visual interfaces for collaboration. Fully personalized AI generated software fails at organizational alignment Voice mode ChatGPT dominance: Despite Claude's coding superiority, ChatGPT still wins daily usage with best voice mode, noise cancellation, and accumulated personal data ecosystem 2026 year of doers: No more sandbox permission to ignore AI tools. Coming to work without using AI equivalent to refusing to use computer or phone About Built 2 Scale: Weekly analysis of artificial intelligence business strategy, robotics adoption, and technology market dynamics. Hosted by Scott Wilcox (Australia) and Matt Perrott (Austin), providing actionable insights for founders, investors, and technology executives navigating the AI transformation. Subscribe for AI business intelligence: /@built2scale Available on Spotify | Apple Podcasts #AI #Claude #ClaudeCode #ClaudeCowork #Apple #Google #Gemini #Siri #Meta #Manus #OpenAI #Anthropic #TobyLutke #AndreKarpathy #Season2 #Built2Scale #CodingRevolution #TechNews#AI #Claude #ClaudeCode #ClaudeCowork #Apple #Google #Gemini #Siri #Meta #Manus #OpenAI #Anthropic #TobyLutke #AndreKarpathy #Built2Scale #CodingRevolution #TechNews

  • #33
    Dec 22, 2025 · 46 min

    Receipts or Regrets | End of Year Special

    BUILT 2 SCALE | RECEIPTS OR REGRETS | End of Year Special Welcome to our brand new segment: Receipts or Regrets. A receipt is something you keep because you're proud of the call. A regret? Well, that's obvious. Matty and Scotty look back at 32 episodes of bold predictions, hot takes, and occasionally terrible life choices. With help from ChatGPT o1 (the only model that could handle all 32 transcripts), here are the calls that aged like fine wine and the ones that aged like milk. Let's dive in. Robots in the Home by 2025: Slop Receipt Scotty called it early: robots in homes by 2025. The Chinese came through with $20K humanoids you can actually buy. Tesla and Figure didn't deliver, but the ball went in. Wrong pocket, but still counts. Slop receipt kept. Make Every Australian a Millionaire: Escalate Australia has $20 trillion in raw materials needed for AI infrastructure. Scotty proposed inviting global companies to build data centers here in exchange for giving Aussies a million dollars each plus free compute for life. The government? Still no AI strategy. No AI czar. Nothing. This isn't a receipt or regret. It's escalate and shout from the rooftops. AI in the Avocado: Big Receipt Guzman y Gomez IPO'd at $45 per share with a $5 million valuation per store. Scotty said there must be "AI in the avocado" for that multiple to work. Today? Stock down 55% to $20. Lacks AI in the avocado confirmed. Receipt kept. Talking to Anna from Sesame AI in Bed: Regret Matty got caught talking to an AI voice assistant under the sheets. His wife walked in. "Who are you talking to?" "It's a bot!" didn't help. New rule: no bots in the bedroom. Steve Irwin Tech Talk in Dallas: Big Regret Scotty invoked Steve Irwin while doing a tech talk in Dallas to lean into his Australian accent. Tough crowd. Too soon. Too much of a stretch. As a now embedded Austin local, even more cringey. Won't be doing that again. Qantas: Split Decision Scotty called out Qantas for no Wi-Fi on international flights in 2025 when Starlink exists. Regret. Matty? Qantas fanboy. Status points, flexi tickets, business class upgrades for $3K. He's keeping the receipt. Built 2 Scale will be taking separate flights. Brett Adcock 200x Apple: Regret Brett said Figure AI would be worth $800 trillion (200x Apple). Three years in, no product, lots of parties. Figure AI revenue? Near zero. Apple's revenue? $416 billion. Scotty's calling regret until Brett hires those two HR managers. Limitless Pendant Meets Zuck: Regret Matty bought the Limitless AI pendant. One year late, terrible battery, no Find My feature. Then got an email changing privacy terms. One hour later? Meta acquired them. Now Zuck has all his data, including the time he argued with his dog Hank and the AI thought Hank was a difficult coworker. Regret. Dual Carriageway: Apple and Google Ecosystems: Regret Matty self proclaimed he'd run dual ecosystems. Two laptops, two phones, two lives. Result? Paid $300/month for Google Ultra with no features and watched the Android Gemini phone camera take 10 seconds to open. Converted to Mac. Everyone not on Mac is wrong. Receipt on Mac, regret on Google. Peak Waymo vs. Tesla: Receipt Both called Tesla's long game over Waymo's robo taxi approach. Elon can produce a robo taxi for a tenth of the price. Economics win. Waymo might retrofit other OEMs with their tech, which is smart B2B play for the lefties and Euros who won't touch Tesla. But best product wins. Receipt. First Year ARR is Nonsense: Big Receipt The bubble frothiness of first year ARR announcements was too much. Monthly subscriptions reported as annual recurring revenue without proof of retention? Nonsense. ARR should only count annual upfront payments in year one. Y Combinator ARRs should exclude other YC ecosystem revenue. Receipt kept. OpenAI Wants to Be the Apple of AI: Receipt Called this in April before Jony Ive joined. Now it's obvious. If OpenAI doesn't get hardware right, they're in trouble. Apple might acquire them. Sam as CEO of Apple by end of 2026. Receipt banked. Coders Shouldn't Be Called Builders: Rant Receipt Scotty unloaded: Engineers sitting in cafes? Fine. Software architects on Figma? Okay. But builders? No. Leave that term alone. Someone makes a mistake on a construction site, they fall off a scaffold, they die, the builder goes to jail. That's the risk. The pyramids are unsolvable. Not a Figma pitch deck. Sacred word. Keep it. Just In Time Software: Receipt Matty predicted AI would write code on the fly to build interfaces and business logic that haven't been predefined. It's already happening. Dynamic software driven by LLMs instead of predefined workflows. The software version of "let's just do it ourselves" is here. Receipt. The Takeaway: Looking back at 32 episodes, most calls held up. Robots came (just from China). Tesla's winning the robo taxi race. OpenAI is chasing hardware. And no bots in the bedroom is now a firm rule. Here's to more receipts in 2026. Which call surprised you most? What's your prediction for next year? Keen to stay ahead? Subscribe to Built 2 Scale on YouTube (link in comments)

  • #33
    Dec 22, 2025 · 1 hr 25 min

    2025 Finale: Yann LeCun Raises $3B, Domain Addiction Confessions & Built 2 Scale Year Wrap

    In the final episode of 2025, Scotty and Matt celebrate 33 episodes of Built 2 Scale by diving into Yann LeCun's ultimate entrepreneurial pivot, raising $3 billion in euros after getting ousted from Meta by Alexander Wang to work on spatial intelligence. They dissect why this is terrible news for Elysium (autonomous homes now have a 10 year delay), celebrate Sergey coding again at Google while the Qantas vs United business class wars rage on, and introduce the year end segment Receipts or Regrets where they review their boldest predictions. From Brett Adcock's 200x Apple claim to robots in homes by 2025, from AI in the avocado to Limitless getting acquired by Zuck with zero notice, they hold nothing back in this year end wrap up featuring domain buying confessions, builder vs coder rants, and why coders should never be called builders. Built 2 Scale | Episode 33 TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Final Episode of 2025: 33 Episodes Complete 2:01 Yann LeCun Raises $3B for Spatial Intelligence Startup 4:06 Why This is Terrible News for Elysium Autonomous Homes 7:00 Brett Adcock's Figure AI Christmas Party: Robot Rave with Deadmau5 9:02 Voice AI Bandwidth Solution: Scotty's 30 Year Long Bet 13:44 Human Like Voice vs Fast Intelligence: What Do You Actually Want? 16:51 Sergey Back Coding at Google: The Return of the Founder 21:57 Receipts or Regrets: Year End Prediction Review Begins 23:41 Matt's Receipt: Robots in Homes by 2025 (Chinese Did It) 25:47 Scotty's Escalate: Make Every Australian a Millionaire With Raw Materials 28:52 Receipt: AI in the Avocado, Guzman y Gomez Down 55% 31:01 Regret: Sesame AI Bot in Bedroom, Wife Not Impressed 33:17 Regret: Steve Irwin Tech Talk in Dallas 35:38 Qantas Fanboy vs United Points: The Business Class Debate 40:09 Receipt: Peak Waymo, Tesla Has Long Game Sewn Up 44:19 Regret: First Year ARR is Nonsense, Y Combinator Circular Economy 46:39 Receipt: OpenAI Wants to Be Apple of AI (Johnny Ive Hire Confirmed It) 52:27 Rant: Coders Shouldn't Be Called Builders, Leave Us That One Term 56:26 Receipt: Just in Time Software Revolution Happening Now 58:52 Matt's Dirty Drunk Habit: Domain Buying, Sold Usainboat.com for $20 1:00:34 Limitless Acquired by Meta: Zuck Now Has All of Scotty's Dog Arguments This Episode Covers: Yann LeCun raising $3 billion in euros for spatial intelligence after Meta exit, choosing Europe where innovation goes to die Why Yann working on spatial intelligence is terrible news for autonomous homes timeline Brett Adcock throwing robot rave with Deadmau5 while still having no product after 3 years Voice AI bandwidth debate: Human like conversation vs fast accurate intelligence Sergey back coding at Google, spending 90% of time teaching rather than sitting on $500M yacht Year end Receipts or Regrets segment reviewing boldest predictions of 2025 Robots in homes by 2025: Chinese delivered with $20K Unitree, not Tesla or Figure AI in the avocado: Guzman y Gomez down 55% from peak, now $2B market cap First year ARR is nonsense: Y Combinator circular economy needs to exclude internal revenue OpenAI wants to be Apple of AI: Johnny Ive hire proved the hardware thesis The builder rant: Coders sitting in Starbucks with Frappuccinos aren't builders, leave us that one term Just in time software: LLMs writing code on the fly rather than predefined workflows Qantas vs United business class points arbitrage strategies KEY INSIGHTS: Yann's strategic retreat: Raising $3B in Europe for spatial intelligence after Meta exit shows classic researcher move to longer horizon tech when pressure mounts. Europe welcomes unproductive research with open arms Sergey's teaching multiplier: Back coding at Google spending 90% of time teaching creates compounding effect as team learns his mental models. More valuable than sitting on yacht Voice AI clarity test: If you want it human like rather than fast and smart, you probably need to talk to actual humans. Best technology disappears into substrate Brett's capital burn rate: Three years in, robot rave parties with Deadmau5, no product. 200x Apple claim ($600 trillion valuation) looking like major regret First year ARR fraud: Y Combinator ecosystem needs to exclude internal revenue between startups. Monthly subscribers times 12 without churn data is nonsense metric OpenAI Apple thesis: Johnny Ive hire confirmed hardware battlefield strategy. Either sets up Apple acquisition with Sam as CEO or prepares for OS layer competition Builder terminology sacred: Someone dies on construction site, builder goes to jail. Kid on cursor in Starbucks is not a builder. Engineers Australia membership for software degrees is offensive to civil engineers Just in time software arriving: AI writing code on the fly beats predefined workflows. Internal bottlenecks now solvable without buying point solutions Qantas points hack: Buy flexi ticket, bid 60K points for business upgrade, 80% success rate. $2.5K total vs $12K buying outright Limitless Meta acquisition: One hour between aggressive privacy policy change and Meta acquisition announcement. Zuck now has data on Scotty arguing with dog Hank About Built 2 Scale: Weekly analysis of artificial intelligence business strategy, robotics adoption, and technology market dynamics. Hosted by Scott Wilcox (Australia) and Matt Perrott (Austin), providing actionable insights for founders, investors, and technology executives navigating the AI transformation. Subscribe for AI business intelligence: /@built2scale Available on Spotify | Apple Podcasts #AI #YannLeCun #SpatialIntelligence #BrettAdcock #FigureAI #Google #Sergey #OpenAI #Receipts #Regrets #2025Predictions #Built2Scale #YearEndReview #TechNews

  • #32
    Dec 17, 2025 · 11 min

    Tool of the Week | Episode 32

    BUILT 2 SCALE | TOOL OF THE WEEK | Episode 32 Every week, Matty and Scotty break down the strategies, frameworks, and tools that separate the world's best builders from everyone else. This week: Alloy, the prototyping tool that just created a 10x moment for non-technical people in software companies. Alloy: The "Aha" Moment for Product Managers Alloy is a prototyping tool that lets non-technical people adjust software on the fly. Take a screenshot of your app, drop it into Alloy, and use natural language to make changes. It looks real, feels interactive, but it's a prototype. The Problem It Solves Before Alloy: Take screenshots, drag them into Figma, add arrows and markups, copy-paste elements from other screens. Tedious. Time consuming. With Alloy: Prompt it. "Hide the side panel and make the drawing full screen. Add markup tools, text, red drawing, pins, and comments. Let users save versions as private or distribute to subcontractors." Three minutes later? Interactive prototype complete. Real World Impact Matty had a US prospect ready to buy, but they needed one feature: drawing markup tools. Instead of saying "I promise the engineers are working on it," he used Alloy to create an interactive demo in minutes. Sent the video to the client. Deal moving forward. Engineers building it in two weeks. That's the power: show, don't promise. Who Uses It? Product managers, sales teams, anyone who needs to visualize changes fast. You can grab a competitor's website, screenshot it, and say "do this, but add our features." It exports to Figma and code (though the code isn't production ready). The value is in design and iteration speed. The Bigger Picture: AI Native Private Equity This tool sparked a bigger discussion: businesses are no longer just building software for industries. They're participating in industries as AI native players. Instead of building a tool for lawyers, start an AI enabled law firm that's better than the rest. Instead of servicing construction, acquire construction companies and apply your automation logic. This is the new age of private equity: acquire existing businesses with demand, apply AI to solve the logic layer (input, logic, output), and turn 10% profit margins into 30%. For software companies facing shrinking margins, the pivot isn't just selling tools. It's acquiring businesses and applying your logic to them. The Takeaway: Alloy represents a 10x improvement in prototyping speed. But the real insight? AI enables new business models. Don't just service an industry. Participate in it. Acquire businesses, apply automation, and enjoy the upside. What's your "aha" AI moment been? Have you found a tool that genuinely changed your workflow? Keen to stay ahead? Subscribe to Built 2 Scale on YouTube (link in comments)

  • #32
    Dec 16, 2025 · 6 min

    Robot Rundown | Episode 32

    BUILT 2 SCALE | ROBOT RUNDOWN | Episode 32 Every week, Matty and Scotty break down the latest in robotics: from humanoids to specialized automation, and everything reshaping how we work, eat, and live. This week: Travis Kalanick (Uber founder) is quietly revolutionizing food production, and the debate between humanoids vs. point solution robots is heating up. Travis Kalanick's Cloud Kitchens: Rethinking Automation From First Principles Travis is back on X, and he's showcasing something big. Cloud Kitchens isn't just automating food delivery. It's building the infrastructure layer for food production itself. The latest demo? A fully automated system assembling and bagging 300 bowls per hour using specialized robots for specific tasks. No humanoids walking around. Instead, Travis redesigned the entire process from scratch. This is the Elon playbook applied to food: don't fit into existing architectures. Redesign the whole thing. Creative first principles thinking applied to manufacturing speed and efficiency. Humanoids vs. Point Solution Robots: The Great Debate Here's the question reshaping robotics strategy: Do you want one humanoid doing everything, or multiple specialized robots each doing one thing perfectly? In manufacturing, Travis is proving the latter. In homes, the question gets more complex. The Coming Wave of Niche Robotics Just like how niche coding apps must specialize to compete with giants like Gemini, robotics will follow the same pattern: The Big Players: Tesla (Optimus) Figure Unitree (China) Gens 5 to 7 "Mag Seven" type companies building general purpose humanoids. The Point Solution Explosion: Hundreds of niche companies building specialized robots powered by the tech infrastructure from Google, Nvidia, and AI advancements. Examples already emerging: Abby (Melbourne): Companion robots for elderly care, designed to be friendly and colorful Ongo: A desk lamp robot with personality that interacts with you (think Toy Story vibes) These might seem like gimmicks, but they represent the next thousand successful businesses taking robotics mainstream. The Domestic Space Gets Smart What's already in your home? Legos. Barbie. Eight Sleep. Furniture. Appliances. Now ask: when does the intelligence layer and robotics layer get plugged into what's already there? Just like AI integrated into commercial spaces, we're about to see it plug into domestic life. Expect acquisitions. Expect $150 products on shelves that bring real robotics tech into everyday homes. Rising Tide Lifts All Boats The narrative that big companies will dominate and kill all startups misses the point. The technological revolution in AI and robotics is spawning entirely new categories. Yes, we'll talk about data centers in space. But we'll also celebrate the little products that make robotics tangible and accessible. The Takeaway: Robotics isn't just about humanoids. It's about rethinking systems from first principles (Cloud Kitchens) and creating specialized solutions for specific needs (point solution robots). The next wave won't just be dominated by giants. It'll be defined by hundreds of niche players making robotics part of daily life. Humanoids or specialized robots? What's your bet for the future? Keen to stay ahead? Subscribe to Built 2 Scale on YouTube

  • #32
    Dec 15, 2025 · 14 min

    AI NEWS | Episode 32

    BUILT 2 SCALE | AI NEWS | Episode 32 Welcome back to Built 2 Scale. Every week, Matty and Scotty cut through the noise to bring you the AI developments that actually matter: the moves reshaping markets, the strategies redefining competition, and the shifts you need to understand to stay ahead. This week: OpenAI's code red moment, Meta's aggressive pivot, data centers in space, and unexpected market effects from the AI boom. OpenAI's Hardware Play: 40 Apple Engineers and a Code Red OpenAI just hired 40 Apple hardware engineers. The battlefield has moved to hardware. The vision? AI models running on network nodes, generating what you need on the fly. No traditional operating system. Just intelligence in real time. If Apple builds AI into iOS and runs models locally, do you even need ChatGPT subscriptions? That's the existential question OpenAI is racing to solve. Meta's Limitless Acquisition: The Privacy Policy That Broke the News Meta acquired Limitless, the AI wearable. Customers got an aggressive email demanding privacy updates or lose access. Fifteen countries were cut off. One hour later? Meta announces the acquisition. With Yann LeCun's departure and this move, Zuckerberg is having his own code red. Meta now has Ray Bans, Oakley, and Limitless wearables. They're doubling down on hardware and pivoting away from open source AI. AI Data Centers in Space: Not Science Fiction Gavin Baker broke down why space based data centers make sense: Energy: Sun is 7x more powerful in space Cooling: Space is freezing Land: Unlimited vs. NIMBY politics Rockets: SpaceX and Blue Origin make it viable The only bottleneck? Bandwidth. But we've solved it for satellites. Boom Supersonic: From Jets to Energy Boom built turbines for supersonic flight. Then realized the same tech can generate electricity for AI data centers. They raised $300 million from Altimeter and Y Combinator to pivot into energy infrastructure. Great tech, unexpected demand, funded vision. Kalshi: America's Youngest Female Billionaire The Kalshi founder (PolyMarket competitor) just became the youngest self made female billionaire. Prediction markets prove backing opinions with money gets real information. Market equilibrium in action. Construction Wages Surge 25 to 30% Data center construction is driving electrician and plumber wages up 25 to 30%. Private capital deploying for AI infrastructure creates labor shortages. Rising costs create more incentive to automate and invest in robotics. Market forces playing out. The Takeaway: The AI race moved beyond models. It's now hardware (OpenAI vs. Apple), infrastructure (space data centers), energy (Boom's turbines), and real world effects (labor shortages). Companies that can't pivot across dimensions will struggle. What surprises you most? OpenAI's hardware push, data centers in space, or the construction wage surge? Keen to stay ahead? Subscribe to Built 2 Scale on YouTube

  • #32
    Dec 11, 2025 · 1 hr 11 min

    Inside the emerging frontier of models, machines and manufacturing hell.

    In this episode, Scotty enters crazy season construction while Matt preps for a founder mode Christmas, then they dissect Sam Altman's Code Red response to Google's dominance by hiring 40 Apple hardware engineers. The guys explore whether this signals an Apple acquisition setup or a play for the operating system layer, why Meta's Limitless acquisition with zero notice shows Zuckerberg scrambling without a clear vision, and Boom Supersonic's brilliant $300M pivot from jet turbines to natural gas energy for AI data centers. Plus: Why construction wages jumping 30% accelerates the robotics timeline, Travis Kalanick automating 300 bowls per hour at Cloud Kitchens, and the emerging Private Equity AI playbook of buying traditional businesses and injecting AI to 10x margins. Built 2 Scale | Episode 32 TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Crazy Season Construction & Founder Mode Christmas 2:57 Bill Ackman's "May I Meet You" Dating Advice Goes Viral 7:10 Scotty's Stock Picks: Google Hits $4 Trillion 8:28 Jensen on Joe Rogan: 4,000 Emails a Day, No Ice Baths 11:15 OpenAI Code Red: Hiring 40 Apple Hardware Engineers 15:38 Is Sam Setting Up an Apple Acquisition? 21:01 Meta Acquires Limitless Pendant With Aggressive Privacy Changes 23:41 Zuckerberg's Vision Problem vs Elon's Clarity 33:51 Data Centers in Space: Unlimited Solar & Free Cooling 38:52 Boom Supersonic's $300M Pivot: Jet Turbines to Energy 46:33 Construction Wages Up 30% Thanks to Data Centers 52:27 Travis Kalanick's Cloud Kitchens: 300 Bowls Per Hour 1:00:34 Tool of the Week: Alloy Prototyping Changes Sales in 3 Minutes 1:09:09 The Private Equity AI Playbook: Buy Businesses, Inject AI, 10x Margins This Episode Covers: OpenAI's hardware pivot hiring 40 Apple engineers as response to Google's model and compute advantage Meta acquiring Limitless with aggressive policy changes signaling Zuckerberg's lack of clear AI vision Boom Supersonic raising $300M by pivoting jet turbines into natural gas energy for AI compute bottleneck Data centers moving to space for unlimited solar power, free cooling, and no environmental opposition Construction wages up 30% from data center demand accelerating automation and robotics investment Travis Kalanick's Cloud Kitchens automating food at 300 bowls per hour with point solution robots Alloy prototyping tool turning 3 hour design mockups into 3 minute AI powered iterations The Private Equity AI playbook: Acquire traditional businesses, inject AI logic, transform 10% margins into 30% KEY INSIGHTS: OpenAI's existential threat: Google has better models, cheaper TPU compute, and 100x more data. Hardware pivot either sets up Apple acquisition with Sam as CEO or prepares for OS layer competition Meta's strategic confusion: Zuckerberg can't articulate clear five year vision like Elon does with multi planetary life and truth seeking AI. Scrambling with acquisitions instead of building coherent strategy Boom's antenna advantage: CEO Blake Scholl heard AI compute energy bottleneck and pivoted jet turbine tech to natural gas generation. Raised $300M solving bigger problem than supersonic flight Space data centers unlock: Seven times more solar in orbit, free cooling, unlimited land, no NIMBY opposition. Elon's rocket monopoly plus Starlink bandwidth makes him infrastructure layer winner Wage surge validates robotics: 30% construction wage increases from data center labor demand creates bigger ROI case for automation than any efficiency argument Alloy's 10x improvement: Non technical product managers mock interactive prototypes in 3 minutes vs 3 hours with Figma. Game changer for sales demos and client feedback loops PE AI arbitrage opportunity: Better ROI buying traditional 10% margin businesses and injecting AI automation than competing in crowded software markets. New age of private equity leverage About Built 2 Scale: Weekly analysis of artificial intelligence business strategy, robotics adoption, and technology market dynamics. Hosted by Scott Wilcox and Matt Perrott, providing actionable insights for founders, investors, and technology executives navigating the AI transformation. Subscribe for AI business intelligence: /@built2scale Available on Spotify | Apple Podcasts #AI #OpenAI #Meta #BoomSupersonic #CloudKitchens #PrivateEquity #Alloy #DataCenters #AIStrategy #Built2Scale #HardwarePivot #TechNews

  • #31
    Dec 4, 2025 · 20 min

    Tool of the Week Segment | Episode 31

    BUILT 2 SCALE | TOOL OF THE WEEK | Episode 31 - November 28, 2025 Every week, Scotty and Matty break down the strategies, frameworks, and mental models that separate the world's best builders from everyone else. This week's tools: 1. Embrace the Flywheel Effect Your success operates like a business flywheel. All of your history and context from previous operations feeds into making your new product even better. Each win compounds the next. 2. Learn by Doing Take a page from James Dyson's playbook: "Don't think too long about doing things, just go out and do them." When faced with a question, just go do it. 3. Curate Your Content Diet Replace mindless scrolling with high-value content. Be ruthless about your triggers. If needed, start a fresh social media account focused on your domain expertise or entrepreneurship. Make your scrolling work for you. 4. Know Thyself Before You Hire Ask yourself: What am I good at? Why me? What skills do I need around me? This clarity reveals whether you need a co-founder and helps identify your superpower. 5. Hire for Your Weaknesses Hire for what is absolutely not your superpower. Early SpaceX had great rockets but was about to die until Elon hired a VP of sales to secure government contracts. Let go of the vine on non-superpower areas. 6. Clarify Your Vision in Writing Put your vision in writing so new hires can take it away and explain it to their friends and family. As Mark Andreessen says, a CEO's greatest skill is the ability to tell a story. This attracts customers, talent, and capital. 7. Prioritize Foundational Roles In the first three years of scaling, nail these three categories: Product (CTO), Brand (CMO), and Distribution (Head of Sales or Growth). Everything else can wait. 8. Block Out Thinking Time Your role as a founder is to set the vision, not be completely operational. Block out sections of days with no tasks to do. Use this time to think about the vision or pivot into solving business problems. Which tool resonates most with where you are right now? Keen to stay ahead? Subscribe to Built 2 Scale on YouTube

  • #31
    Dec 3, 2025 · 37 min

    AI NEWS | Episode 31

    BUILT 2 SCALE | AI NEWS | Episode 31 - November 28, 2025 Every week, Matty and Scotty cut through the noise to bring you the AI developments that actually matter: the moves reshaping markets, the strategies redefining competition, and the shifts you need to understand to stay ahead. Google's Gemini 3 Adds $2 Trillion to Market Cap—The Age of Scaling is Over The AI landscape just shifted from a compute arms race to a battle for ecosystem dominance, custom silicon, and real-world intelligence. The Vertical Integration Play Google spent a decade building proprietary TPU chips, and it just paid off. By cutting Nvidia dependency entirely, they can now out compete on cost per token. The new race? Token per watt efficiency. Google just took the lead. Ecosystem = Moat Gemini 3 isn't just competitive with OpenAI and Claude. It's natively integrated across Pixel, Google Docs, YouTube, and every product in the Google suite. When your model is "at par or better" AND built into tools people use daily, distribution becomes your unfair advantage. Real-World Intelligence Takes Center Stage Gemini 3 Pro understands 3D context, turning sketches into renders and photos into floor plans. It actively "watches" YouTube clips instead of just reading transcripts. The training data advantage? Unbelievable. Industry consensus is clear: top minds (including Ilya from OpenAI) say "the age of scaling is over." The next frontier demands: → Reduced energy consumption → Real-world spatial intelligence → Physical applications beyond screens The Three-Layer Strategy Musk's playbook tackles all constraints simultaneously: Real-world data → Tesla fleet Energy → Tesla batteries & solar Compute → Custom chips with Samsung This is full-stack AI competition. OpenAI's Move To justify their valuation, OpenAI must expand into memory, personalized UI, and consumer apps (payments, shopping). The bet: LLMs "can get into everything in your life." The Niche-Down Imperative If you're building on foundational models: specialize or die. Google and OpenAI offer such broad capability that billion dollar companies must carve defensible niches with specialized workflows or get priced out. Geography Matters Less Silicon Valley's premium only applies to cutting edge AI research. For companies leveraging models intelligently or scaling GTM? Austin, NYC, Denver work fine. The Takeaway: AI competition evolved into a multi-dimensional battle: custom silicon, ecosystem lock in, real-world data, energy efficiency. Companies that can't compete across dimensions must niche down fast. What's your take? Are we past the age of scaling? Keen to stay ahead? Subscribe to Built 2 Scale on YouTube (link in comments).

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