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Bitcoin Office of El Salvador

El Salvador is Bitcoin Country: the first nation in the world to embrace the greatest form of money in history. Since 2021 under President Bukele, El Salvador has been a leader in many aspects of Bitcoin adoption: sovereign reserves, educational initiatives, circular economies, startups, and more.

Many Bitcoiners from around the world have moved to El Salvador as a result, and many leaders in the Bitcoin industry frequently visit for events.

In this podcast, host Jethro Toro shines a spotlight on the best and brightest visiting and building Bitcoin Country.

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Yesterday · 28 min
El Salvador and Bitcoin Today: Jethro Toro, Terence Michael, Loren, Scott Wolfe, and more
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Jethro Toro joined Terence Michael, Loren and Humble on the Bitcoin Today X Space to talk about El Salvador's Freedom Month and where Bitcoin adoption in Bitcoin Country really stands, alongside Scott Wolfe of the Federation of Bitcoin Circular Economies and Pursuing Freedom. This conversation covered... * Freedom Month in El Salvador: Bitcoin Histórico, the Capital Summit, the Global Bitcoin Circular Economies Summit and MIT Technology Review's EmTech AI conference, and how Jethro helps tie them together with Stacy Herbert and the Bitcoin Office * Circular economies on the ground: Bitcoin Beach in El Zonte as the "big bang" of circular economies, Berlín, and the Federation of Bitcoin Circular Economies' work with projects around the world * Why some merchants still say no: volatility, education, the 2001 dollarization and the Chivo wallet's rough first impression, and why adoption sticks where merchants can spend bitcoin with each other * The numbers the critics skip: 1,400+ confirmed merchants after the IMF deal, El Salvador's biggest grocery chain, PriceSmart, Starbucks and Wendy's accepting bitcoin, zero taxes on bitcoin and banks able to custody it * President Bukele as a real Bitcoiner: his 2017 campaign tweet at the central bank, and how El Salvador went from murder capital of the world to the safest country in the hemisphere * El Salvador vs Costa Rica: credit to Bitcoin Jungle and Uvita, and why institutional adoption needs a Bitcoiner president * Bitcoin Histórico in the National Palace: Ricardo Salinas joining the speakers, Grant Cardone's surprise trip last year, and a Hollywood panel with Max Keiser, Terence Michael, Mike Germano and Julian Figueroa * Stacy Herbert, the first person to mention Bitcoin on international financial TV: the Keiser Report in December 2010, at 23 cents per bitcoin Join us for the full Freedom Month experience this November: 📍 10th · Bitcoin Capital Summit 📍 11 & 12 · BitcoinHistorico.com (use code "COWBOY21" for 21% off) 📍 13th · Renaissance Rodeo 📍 18 & 19 · EmTech AI Conference 📍 19 & 20 · Global Bitcoin Circular Economies Summit You can check out the original Space here: https://x.com/i/spaces/1lgkeKkYYddaVr?s=20 Relevant accounts on X: https://x.com/bitcointoday__ https://x.com/ProofOfMoney https://x.com/LorenHodl https://x.com/HumbleWarrior https://x.com/ScottAWolfe https://x.com/pursuingfreedo1 https://x.com/btchistoricosv https://x.com/JethroToro https://x.com/BitcoinOfficeSV
Monday · 51 min
Max Keiser & Stacy Herbert: Making History in El Salvador
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert are Bitcoin pioneers and longtime broadcasters. They created and co-hosted the Keiser Report and then the Orange Pill Podcast. Stacy was the first to mention Bitcoin on international television, in December 2010. Max is a former stockbroker who made his first Bitcoin bull case in 2011. El Salvador in 2021 became the first country in the world to make Bitcoin legal tender. Max and Stacy were among the first Bitcoiners to move there. Stacy now directs El Salvador's National Bitcoin Office, and Max is a senior Bitcoin advisor to President Bukele. You can watch this full interview on the new YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yww6WXzTX4o Come see them at BitcoinHistorico.com this November 11-12. Bitcoin Histórico is a unique conference at the National Palace organized by El Salvador's Bitcoin Office, showcasing the many ways it's leading in Bitcoin adoption: strategic reserve, educational initiatives, circular economies, government policies, capital markets, and more. In this interview at the Bitcoin Beach studio in October 2025, just before the inaugural Bitcoin Histórico, Max, Stacy and I discussed: - El Salvador's transformation under President Bukele, and why they call it Renaissance 2.0 - the Florence playbook: perfect money (the florin) plus a leader who inspires (Lorenzo the Magnificent) - why Bitcoin is "the invasive species of money," and what's left of fiat when it's done - Bitcoin as a safe-haven asset in a safe-haven country, and Max's 2011 case for $100K Bitcoin - proof of work, not a LARP: the ethical standards, CUBO+, and teaching seven-year-olds "What Is Money" - why moving to El Salvador today is like buying Bitcoin at ten bucks Max and Stacy will return for Round 2 of Bitcoin Histórico this November 11-12 during Freedom Month in El Salvador. Check out the full speaker list and get your tickets at BitcoinHistorico.com to join us at the National Palace. LINKS: Max Keiser on X: https://x.com/maxkeiser Stacy Herbert on X: https://x.com/stacyherbert Jethro Toro on X: https://x.com/JethroToro Bitcoin Country Podcast: https://rss.com/podcasts/bitcoin-country-podcast/ Bitcoin Histórico on X: https://x.com/btchistoricosv El Salvador's Bitcoin Office: https://x.com/bitcoinofficesv
October 27 · 1 hr 5 min
Julian Liniger, Max & Stacy: how El Salvador is the new Switzerland
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Julian Liniger is the co-founder and CEO of Relai, the biggest Bitcoin-only exchange in Europe, founded in Zurich in 2020, which has helped more than 100,000 people buy over 20,000 bitcoin straight into self-custody. This conversation on X Spaces yesterday with Julian, Max Keiser, Stacy Herbert, and moderator Jethro Toro covered... Julian’s decade in Bitcoin: buying his first coin through a friend in 2015, the 2017 Silicon Valley gold rush, and founding Relai in 2020 Why Relai went Bitcoin-only: listening to the Bitcoin community, standing for one thing as a brand, and still turning down investors who want other coins Relai by the numbers: around $1.5 billion in volume, 650,000 app downloads, 80% of orders through DCA savings plans, and every bitcoin sent straight to users’ own wallets Bitcoin in Europe today: KYC-free onboarding in Switzerland until 2024, the cost of a MiCA license, and how a bear market changes retail behavior Who is adopting, and why: savers who know fiat is broken, an average user age of 43, high-net-worth clients, and businesses putting Bitcoin on their balance sheet Max and Stacy on the early days in Europe: the hacker community, the Keiser Report, and why El Salvador stays the only true Bitcoin Country From low trust to high trust: Stacy on El Salvador’s transformation, CUBO+ education, and the comparison with Switzerland Bitcoin Histórico: a preview of Julian’s keynote “El Salvador Is the Next Switzerland”, on stability, security, beauty and sound money foundations, in El Salvador’s National Palace Join us for the full Freedom Month experience this November: 📍 10th · Bitcoin Capital Summit 📍 11 & 12 · BitcoinHistorico.com (use code “COWBOY21” for 21% off) 📍 13th · Renaissance Rodeo 📍 18 & 19 · EmTech AI Conference 📍 19 & 20 · Global Bitcoin Circular Economies Summit You can check out the original Space here: https://x.com/i/spaces/1oKMvNobgmRGQ?s=20 Relevant accounts on X: https://x.com/btchistoricosv https://x.com/julian_liniger https://x.com/Relai_app https://x.com/maxkeiser https://x.com/stacyherbert https://x.com/JethroToro https://x.com/BitcoinOfficeSV
October 26 · 10 min
SAIFEDEAN - First Country on a Bitcoin Standard
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Saifedean Ammous is an economist and author. His books include "The Bitcoin Standard," the best-selling book ever written about Bitcoin, as well as "The Fiat Standard" and "Principles of Economics." El Salvador in 2021 became the first country in the world to make Bitcoin legal tender. Saifedean has an advisory role with El Salvador's Bitcoin Office, and he has visited the country several times. You can watch this full interview on the Bitcoin Country Podcast channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_tg6HXkSnw In this conversation at Plan B Forum El Salvador in January 2026, Saifedean and I discussed: - El Salvador as "the first country that gets on a Bitcoin Standard," and his advisory role with the Bitcoin Office - his 15-year friendship with Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert, from Lebanon to El Salvador - his message to gold bugs, a couple of hours before debating Peter Schiff: why gold's new supply could drag its price down - why gold is a horse carriage, not a Ferrari: Bitcoin's "number go up technology," the halving and the difficulty adjustment - for Bitcoiners who have reached financial freedom, what comes next? Stay solvent, keep stacking, and stop arguing with no-coiners - his new economic-fiction book: what if fiat had collapsed in 1915, and what could humanity have built without the wars it financed? Round 2 of Bitcoin Histórico will be this November 11-12 during Freedom Month in El Salvador. Check out the full speaker list and get your tickets at BitcoinHistorico.com to join us at the National Palace. LINKS: Saifedean Ammous on X: https://x.com/saifedean Saifedean's website: https://saifedean.com Jethro Toro on X: https://x.com/JethroToro Bitcoin Country Podcast: https://rss.com/podcasts/bitcoin-country-podcast/ Bitcoin Histórico on X: https://x.com/btchistoricosv El Salvador's Bitcoin Office: https://x.com/bitcoinofficesv CHAPTERS 0:00 Preview Trailer 0:23 Welcome: meet Saifedean Ammous 0:43 15 years with Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert 1:24 His advisory role with El Salvador's Bitcoin Office 1:58 A message for gold bugs and libertarians 2:36 Debating Peter Schiff, and gold's supply problem 3:24 Bitcoin's "number go up technology" 4:12 A horse carriage is not a Ferrari 4:51 Advice for Bitcoiners who reached financial freedom 6:17 Arguing with no-coiners 6:54 His new book: an alternative history without fiat 8:46 Imagining a century without world wars 9:42 Closing
October 17 · 1 hr 18 min
Parker Lewis, Max & Stacy: Gradually, Then Suddenly
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Parker Lewis is the author of "Gradually, Then Suddenly" and Head of Business Development at Zaprite, working on Bitcoin payments after four years building collaborative custody at Unchained. This conversation on X Spaces yesterday with Parker, Max Keiser, Stacy Herbert, and moderator Jethro Toro covered... Parker’s path from Wall Street to Bitcoin: Deutsche Bank during the 2008 financial crisis, then Hayman Capital, where studying how the Fed would unwind quantitative easing led him down the Bitcoin rabbit hole in 2016 The story behind Gradually, Then Suddenly: an introduction to Saifedean Ammous, an early manuscript of The Bitcoin Standard, and reasoning through the most common questions about Bitcoin Why self-custody is still so important: the Silicon Valley Bank failure, the fragility of the banking system, and multisig collaborative custody Bitcoin as a Medium of Exchange: why payments are what let Bitcoin stand apart from the fiat rails, and Parker’s work at Zaprite Texas and El Salvador: “Bitcoin Country” and the “center of hash” and why freedom-minded people move to Bitcoin-friendly jurisdictions Bitcoin Histórico: a unique OG Bitcoin conference experience, where people can learn from the best speakers who have been in Bitcoin since the early days, at El Salvador’s National Palace, including Parker’s talk “Bitcoin Is Not a Panacea” Join us for the full Freedom Month experience this November: 📍 10th · Bitcoin Capital Summit 📍 11 & 12 · BitcoinHistorico.com (use code “COWBOY21” for 21% off) 📍 13th · Renaissance Rodeo 📍 18 & 19 · EmTech AI Conference 📍 19 & 20 · Global Bitcoin Circular Economies Summit You can check out the original Space here: https://x.com/i/spaces/1nxnRBkpNQjxO?s=20 Relevant accounts on X: https://x.com/btchistoricosv https://x.com/parkeralewis https://x.com/maxkeiser https://x.com/stacyherbert https://x.com/JethroToro https://x.com/BitcoinOfficeSV
October 15 · 12 min
Efrat Fenigson - Why El Salvador Feels Free Now
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Efrat Fenigson is an independent journalist, Bitcoin educator, and host of the You're the Voice podcast (@EfratFenigson). Before that, she held a senior position in corporate tech. El Salvador in 2021 became the first country in the world to make Bitcoin legal tender. Efrat has visited the country several times, and she met President Bukele after speaking at the inaugural Bitcoin Histórico. In this interview a couple of days later, Efrat and I discussed: El Salvador's transformation under President Bukele: life before and after the end of gang violence, seen by someone who grew up with war at home what President Bukele told Bitcoiners at dinner: after the IMF loan, is Bitcoin still part of El Salvador's plan? why someone who is "the last person to be looking for heroes and saviors" says Bukele gives her hope being vilified by the prime minister of her own country, and finding sanity again far from home her message to the builders of Bitcoin circular economies, from Berlín and El Zonte in El Salvador to Bitcoin Ekasi in South Africa You can also watch this interview on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SIs2cOXRks Efrat will return to El Salvador this November to speak at BitcoinHistorico.com again. It's a unique conference at the National Palace, organized by El Salvador's Bitcoin Office, showcasing the many ways it's leading in Bitcoin adoption: strategic reserve, educational initiatives, circular economies, government policies, capital markets, and more. Round 2 will be this November 11-12 during Freedom Month in El Salvador. Check out the full speaker list and get your tickets at BitcoinHistorico.com to join us at the National Palace. LINKS: Efrat Fenigson on X: https://x.com/efenigson You're the Voice podcast: / @efratfenigson Jethro Toro on X: https://x.com/JethroToro Bitcoin Histórico on X: https://x.com/btchistoricosv El Salvador's Bitcoin Office: https://x.com/bitcoinofficesv
October 9 · 1 hr 22 min
Knut Svanholm, Max & Stacy: Freedom, Art, Culture, and Returning to Bitcoin's Roots at Bitcoin Histórico
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Knut Svanholm is an author of five books about Bitcoin, economics, and freedom as well as the host of the Bitcoin Infinity Show. This conversation on X Spaces yesterday with Knut, Max Keiser, Stacy Herbert, and moderator Jethro Toro covered... Knut's five books: Sovereignty through Mathematics (2019), Bitcoin: Independence Reimagined (2020), Everything Divided by 21 Million (2022), Praxeology: The Invisible Hand that Feeds You (2023), and Bitcoin: The Inverse of Clown World (2024, with Luke de Wolf) Knut's experience visiting El Salvador twice: Bitcoin Histórico, a sunset acoustic set in Bitcoin Beach, and a dinner with President Bukele Knut's philosophical perspective on the nine pillars of Bitcoin Histórico: Economic Liberty, Culture, Education, Individual Sovereignty, Art, Community, Freedom Money, Technology, Experience The Renaissance 2.0 in El Salvador Bitcoin Histórico: a unique OG Bitcoin Conference experience, where people can learn from the best speakers who have been in Bitcoin since the early days, at El Salvador's National Palace Join us for the full Freedom Month experience this November: 📍 10th · Bitcoin Capital Summit 📍 11 & 12 · BitcoinHistorico.com (use code "COWBOY21" for 21% off) 📍 13th · Renaissance Rodeo 📍 18 & 19 · EmTech AI Conference 📍 19 & 20 · Global Bitcoin Circular Economies Summit You can check out the original Space here: https://x.com/i/spaces/1YxNrbkeyORxw?s=20 Relevant accounts on X: https://x.com/btchistoricosv https://x.com/knutsvanholm https://x.com/maxkeiser https://x.com/stacyherbert https://x.com/JethroToro https://x.com/BitcoinOfficeSV
October 7 · 11 min
Jimmy Song - What El Salvador can Teach the World
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Jimmy Song is a Bitcoin expert, developer, and educator. He's authored and co-authored several books including "Programming Bitcoin" and "Bitcoin and the American Dream" and "Thank God for Bitcoin." El Salvador in 2021 became the first country in the world to make Bitcoin legal tender. Jimmy Song helped shape the curriculum of El Salvador's CUBO+ program, and he has visited the country several times since January 2022. In this interview at the inaugural Bitcoin Histórico last November, Jimmy and I discussed: El Salvador's transformation under President Bukele Noblesse Oblige, his main-stage talk: after "Number Go Up," what do Bitcoiners owe the society around them? why beauty changes people, and why fiat is "a godless money" being called on stage as the bridge between Russell Brand and Max Keiser, and why so many Bitcoiners are turning to Christ the "monetary Stockholm syndrome" of fiat, and why Bitcoin is your servant, not your master what the U.S. and other countries can learn from El Salvador: common sense, courage, and more You can also watch this interview on the Bitcoin Country channel here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTejV8frpmk Bitcoin Histórico is a unique conference at the National Palace organized by El Salvador's Bitcoin Office, showcasing the many ways it's leading in Bitcoin adoption: strategic reserve, educational initiatives, circular economies, government policies, capital markets, and more. Jimmy will return for Round 2 this November 11-12 during Freedom Month in El Salvador. Check out the full speaker list and get your tickets at BitcoinHistorico.com to join us at the National Palace. LINKS: Jimmy Song on X: https://x.com/jimmysong Jethro Toro on X: https://x.com/JethroToro Bitcoin Histórico on X: https://x.com/btchistoricosv El Salvador's Bitcoin Office: https://x.com/bitcoinofficesv
October 5 · 5 min
Michael Ruiz - Building in El Salvador
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Michael Ruiz is the founder of Build in El Salvador, bringing entrepreneurs together through masterminds, roundtables and events. He's been living in El Salvador since 2023, on the forefront of the country's entrepreneurial culture. El Salvador in 2021 became the first country in the world to make Bitcoin legal tender. Bitcoin Histórico is a unique conference at the National Palace organized by El Salvador's Bitcoin Office, showcasing the many ways it's leading in Bitcoin adoption: strategic reserve, educational initiatives, circular economies, government policies, capital markets, and more. In this interview at the inaugural Bitcoin Histórico last November, Michael and I discussed: - why El Salvador operates like a "startup country" that actually means business - how Bitcoin is moving from a fad to a way of life, and why El Salvador might be the first nation out of the fiat dark age - his impressions of Bitcoin Histórico at the National Palace - why fixing the money still takes human action, and how entrepreneurship and Build In El Salvador fit in Round 2 of Bitcoin Histórico will be this November 11-12 during Freedom Month in El Salvador. Check out the full speaker list and get your tickets at BitcoinHistorico.com to join us at the National Palace. You can also watch this interview on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JkOR7RO4L4 LINKS: Michael Ruiz on X: https://x.com/sovmindset Build In El Salvador on X: https://x.com/BuildInES BiES website: https://buildinelsalvador.com Jethro Toro on X: https://x.com/JethroToro Bitcoin Country Podcast: https://rss.com/podcasts/bitcoin-country-podcast/ Bitcoin Histórico on X: https://x.com/btchistoricosv El Salvador's Bitcoin Office: https://x.com/bitcoinofficesv CHAPTERS: 0:00 Preview 0:23 Welcome to Bitcoin Histórico 0:44 A startup country that means business 1:31 Sound money and the fiat dark age 2:46 "You feel like royalty" 3:40 Fix the money, fix the world: entrepreneurship 4:43 Where El Salvador is going
September 28 · 1 hr 9 min
Max & Stacy and more: Renaissance Rodeo and Bitcoin Histórico
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Bitcoin and bull riding... ranching and beauty... freedom and societal transformation… Bitcoin Histórico and the new Renaissance Rodeo. “Ain’t nobody freer than a cowboy” - Stacy Herbert “It’s part of the Freedom Stack… this frontier mentality that El Salvador has, leading the world in freedom” - Max Keiser “Not your supply chain, not your food. We need to decentralize the food supply chain... by celebrating the people that raise our food” - James (Renaissance Rodeo organizer) “I see El Salvador as the homestead for humanity” - Tom Taber "Cowboy culture is such a big deal here in El Salvador. That's what I've been seeing out there in these Bitcoin circular economies… they're all wearing cowboy hats. They're all doing these rodeos." - Zack Dorsey “I first came to El Salvador last year for the first Bitcoin Histórico… super exciting. I’ve been down four times since.” - Corey Biser, BitPoker This November in Bitcoin Country will be unforgettable. Promo code COWBOY21 gets 21% off your tickets at BitcoinHistorico.com And those tickets to the world's best Bitcoin experience at El Salvador's National Palace also give you free access the next day to the Renaissance Rodeo. Join us for the full Freedom Month experience: 📍 10th · Bitcoin Capital Summit 📍 11 & 12 · BITCOIN HISTÓRICO 📍 13th · Renaissance Rodeo 📍 18 & 19 · EmTech AI Conference 📍 19 & 20 · Global Bitcoin Circular Economies Summit From the National Palace to Lake Ilopango to Bitcoin Beach... Nowhere else on earth does the Freedom Stack better than El Salvador. Nowhere else has a Freedom Month like Bitcoin Country's this November. You can check out the original Space here: https://x.com/i/spaces/1nxnRBZRDNVxO You can follow all of the speakers here: https://x.com/btchistoricosv https://x.com/rodeo_sv https://x.com/maxkeiser https://x.com/stacyherbert https://x.com/JethroToro https://x.com/TomTaberHODL https://x.com/zackdorseyx https://x.com/BitPokerSV
September 28 · 5 min
Lawrence Lepard - The Big Print is inevitable (interview at Bitcoin Histórico)
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Lawrence Lepard is Managing Partner at Equity Management Associates, a Harvard Business School alumnus, author of The Big Print, and one of the most widely beloved voices in the Bitcoin ecosystem. In this interview at the inaugural Bitcoin Histórico last November, Lawrence and I discussed: His experience visiting El Salvador twice His book “The Big Print” How fiat currency damages society How gold is undervalued but also susceptible to manipulation How Bitcoin can lead to a more fair system The importance of Bitcoin Country leading by example El Salvador in 2021 became the first country in the world to make Bitcoin legal tender. Bitcoin Histórico is a unique conference at the National Palace organized by El Salvador's Bitcoin Office, showcasing the many ways it's leading in Bitcoin adoption: strategic reserve, educational initiatives, circular economies, government policies, capital markets, and more. Round 2 of Bitcoin Histórico will be this November 11-12. Check out the full speaker list and get your tickets at BitcoinHistorico.com to join us for this uniquely extraordinary event at the National Palace. Relevant accounts on X: https://x.com/LawrenceLepard https://x.com/JethroToro https://x.com/btchistoricosv You can also watch the video of this interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUk-A8hHGoY
September 11 · 12 min
Roman Martinez - El Salvador is Changing the World
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Roman Martinez is the cofounder of Bitcoin Beach and Goodlife El Salvador. His name and story were included in the official announcement when El Salvador became the world's first country to make Bitcoin legal tender in 2021. Since then, he's spoken at Bitcoin conferences around the world, and his work with Bitcoin Beach has supported the spread of circular economies throughout El Salvador and many other countries. In this interview at the inaugural Bitcoin Histórico conference in November 2025, we discussed how far Bitcoin Country has come, the spread of circular economies, and more. Come see Roman "Chimbera" and many other incredible speakers this November 11-12 at BitcoinHistorico.com round 2, again in El Salvador's National Palace
August 30 · 7 min
Jeff Booth - A Protocol for Abundance in El Salvador and Beyond
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Jeff Booth is the author of "The Price of Tomorrow" and GP at Ego Death Capital, which is a Bitcoin-only venture fund investing in entrepreneurs building on a financial layer that brings truth, hope and abundance. In this interview at the inaugural Bitcoin Histórico last November, Jeff and I discussed: - his first three experiences in El Salvador, highlighting the transformation since his first visit in 2022 - how Bitcoin is more than an asset: it's a protocol that brings abundance to eight billion people - why he's optimistic about AI and Bitcoin - his experience with circular economies such as Bitcoin Beach and Bitcoin Berlín, and why he considers spending Bitcoin important for its success - his experience at the inaugural Bitcoin Histórico Get your tickets at BitcoinHistorico.com for round 2 this November 11-12 at the National Palace. You can also watch the video version of this interview on the Bitcoin Country Podcast's YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaXRMTnQWhM
August 19 · 5 min
Bitstein: Making History in El Salvador at Bitcoin Histórico
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Bitstein is Founder and President of the Nakamoto Institute, advancing and preserving Bitcoin knowledge since 2013. El Salvador in 2021 became the first country in the world to make Bitcoin legal tender. Bitcoin Histórico is a unique conference at the National Palace organized by El Salvador's Bitcoin Office showcasing the many ways it's leading in Bitcoin adoption: strategic reserve, educational initiatives, circular economies, government policies, and more. This interview at the inaugural Bitcoin Histórico last November is also available on the new YouTube channel for the Bitcoin Country Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgA0YfTjv8E In this interview, Bitstein and I discussed: - the backstory of founding the Nakamoto Institute - some examples of their most famous articles and terms they've popularized such as "speculative attack" and "hyperbitcoinization" - his first impression of El Salvador - why it's important for Bitcoiners to understand history Bitstein will return for the second annual Bitcoin Histórico this November 11-12. Get your tickets at BitcoinHistorico.com to join us at the National Palace for another unforgettable experience in the most "hyperbitcoinized" country on earth. Relevant accounts on X: https://x.com/btchistoricosv https://x.com/bitstein https://x.com/NakamotoInst https://x.com/JethroToro https://x.com/BitcoinOfficeSV
August 10 · 1 hr 37 min
Giacomo Zucco, Max & Stacy: Hard Times, Stronger Tools
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Giacomo Zucco is a Bitcoin educator and President of Plan B Network. This conversation on X Spaces yesterday with Giacomo, Max Keiser, Stacy Herbert, and moderator Jethro Toro covered... Recent chaos in the Bitcoin ecosystem with cyberattacks on Coldcard wallets, BTCPayServer, Boltz, and Zeus Wallet Lessons from the BIP110 chain split, compared and contrasted to the Blocksize War Giacomo's Bitcoin backstory since 2012 Lessons from Giacomo, Max and Stacy about the hard times in the early days of Bitcoin: "it was far worse in 2012-2014" Max with a macro view: the Japanese yen carry trade, Bitcoin treasury companies, the power of self custody, and a reminder of why Bitcoin matters so much The evolution of Bitcoin tools since the early days Bitcoin education programs in El Salvador: CUBO+ and the impact it's had on Salvadoran students The story and education programs of Plan B Network The Renaissance 2.0 in El Salvador Bitcoin Histórico: a unique OG Bitcoin Conference experience, where people can learn from the best speakers who have been in Bitcoin since the early days, at El Salvador's National Palace Check out this year's lineup and join us this November 11-12 at BitcoinHistorico.com Relevant accounts on X: https://x.com/btchistoricosv https://x.com/giacomozucco https://x.com/maxkeiser https://x.com/stacyherbert https://x.com/JethroToro https://x.com/BitcoinOfficeSV
July 23 · 1 hr 7 min
Jimmy Song, Max & Stacy: Bitcoin and the Salvadoran Dream
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Jimmy Song is a Bitcoin expert, developer, and author of five books about Bitcoin’s technology and implications for society. This conversation had thousands of listeners on X Spaces with Jimmy, Max Keiser, and Stacy Herbert on October 17th last year. We're releasing it now on all podcast platforms because it covered some timeless topics: Jimmy's role helping Stacy launch Bitcoin educational initiatives in El Salvador Lessons from Jimmy, Max, and Stacy being in Bitcoin since its early days Sound money, civilization, and the transformation in El Salvador Jimmy's five books Audience Q&A: circular economies, Bitcoin maximalism, and decentralized food Soon after this conversation, Jimmy gave a keynote about Noblesse Oblige at El Salvador's National Palace for the inaugural Bitcoin Histórico conference. Check out this year's lineup and join us this November 11-12 at BitcoinHistorico.com Relevant accounts on X: https://x.com/jimmysong https://x.com/maxkeiser https://x.com/stacyherbert https://x.com/JethroToro https://x.com/btchistoricosv https://x.com/BitcoinOfficeSV
July 15 · 1 hr 3 min
Lawrence Lepard with Max & Stacy
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Lawrence Lepard is Managing Partner at Equity Management Associates, a Harvard Business School alumnus, author of The Big Print, and one of the most widely beloved voices in the Bitcoin ecosystem. This conversation had thousands of listeners exclusively on X Spaces with Lawrence, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert on October 15th, 2025. We're releasing it now on all podcast platforms because it covered some timeless topics: Lawrence's new book "The Big Print" his first impressions of El Salvador his views on Bitcoin compared to gold and silver his views on Bitcoin as a Medium Of Exchange (not just a Store of Value) Soon after this conversation, Lawrence gave a keynote at El Salvador's National Palace for the inaugural Bitcoin Histórico conference. Check out this year's lineup and join us this November 11-12 at BitcoinHistorico.com Relevant accounts on X: https://x.com/LawrenceLepard https://x.com/maxkeiser https://x.com/stacyherbert https://x.com/JethroToro https://x.com/btchistoricosv https://x.com/BitcoinOfficeSV
July 9 · 1 hr 4 min
Max and Stacy: El Salvador's Top 10 Wins in June 2026
Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode! Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert hosted a Space on X on July 3rd covering the Top 10 Ways El Salvador is Winning from June 2026: June 5th: 5 Year Anniversary of Bitcoin Law Announcement CUBO+ Classes and Graduation Scholarship Students' Trip to Lugano for Plan B Summer School "Programming Bitcoin" Bootcamp and Hackathon results El Salvador's Huge Economic Growth in Q1 2026 UNESCO Report Highlights El Salvador as a Regional Leader in AI The new Bitcoin Zone at the CUBO in Apopa Pax Silica: El Salvador joins major international AI partnership Longtime NVIDIA Executive joins El Salvador's AI Agency Board El Salvador's Bitcoin reserves surpass 7,700 BTC Come see the winning for yourself this November 11-12 at the National Palace for Bitcoin Histórico: BitcoinHistorico.com Relevant accounts on X: https://x.com/maxkeiser https://x.com/stacyherbert https://x.com/btchistoricosv https://x.com/theaiagencysv https://x.com/BitcoinOfficeSV Check out cohost Jethro Toro's recap thread from this episode here to learn more about each of the Top 10 points covered in this Space: https://x.com/JethroToro/status/2074124187208135089

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