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Being Different with Liz Durham

Liz Durham

Welcoming lively debates and personal discoveries that will prompt you to question the status quo - and maybe even change your mind.

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  • Thursday · 25 min

    124. Why I’m Not Voting Anymore

    I recorded this before Election Day, and I had spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to decide what I was going to do. I’ve voted Republican my entire life. I’ve interviewed Michaela Barnett twice. I like Tim Burchett personally. And somehow I still ended up at a place where I didn’t feel like I could vote for any of them. So in this solo episode, I’m talking through how I got there. I get into why I’ve become so disillusioned with both parties, why I understand why younger people are losing faith in the American Dream, and why I’ve realized that I’ve probably put way too much hope in politicians and government over the years. I don’t have some grand solution. I’m mostly just frustrated, conflicted, and trying to figure out what I actually believe now. And then, because apparently I needed to lighten things up, I also explain why having kids has slowly made me hate Halloween. So… politics, existential dread, scary costumes, too much sugar, and a little bit of hope that Thanksgiving will be better. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • October 29 · 19 min

    123. Motherhood Was Never Supposed to Be Perfect

    I promise this is my last episode about Yesteryear, but there was one thing I couldn’t stop thinking about: why have we made motherhood look so miserable? There is so much pressure on moms now to do everything perfectly. Have the right stuff, create the perfect nursery, raise the perfect kids, feed them the right things, keep them safe from everything, and somehow make the whole thing look beautiful while you’re doing it. I bought into a lot of that with my first kid. Now that I’m pregnant with my fourth, I look back and think… none of this has to be this complicated. In this episode, I’m talking about the pressure modern moms are under, what Yesteryear gets right about motherhood, what I still think it misses, and why I wish more women were honest about both how hard and how incredible having kids actually is. Motherhood will absolutely break you sometimes. But that doesn’t mean it’s miserable. Kids are awesome. Have more kids. And you probably don’t need all the crap. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • October 22 · 44 min

    122. Boss Babe or Trad Wife? Why I Reject Both Extremes

    I’m back with more thoughts on Yesteryear because apparently one episode was not enough. This time, I’m talking about something the book made me think about a lot: what does it actually mean to be traditional anymore? I’ve lived the corporate, career-first version of life. I’ve also spent the last few years at home with my kids, cooking dinner, raising chickens, trying to make sourdough, and getting called a trad wife—which, for some reason, has always irritated me. The truth is, I don’t really fit either label. In this episode, I’m talking about why I’ve become more traditional as I’ve gotten older, what I think the trad wife conversation gets wrong, the parts of modern feminism I no longer buy into, and why I’m trying to figure out what actually matters to me instead of just jumping from one extreme to the other. Because maybe the answer isn’t “boss babe” or “trad wife.” Maybe it’s somewhere in the middle. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • October 1 · 43 min

    121. Working Moms vs. Trad Wives: Are We All Being Lied To?

    I read "Yesteryear" thinking it would just be a fun book to read on vacation, and instead it pissed me off enough that I apparently need two episodes to talk about it. So here's Part 1 of my thoughts. I’m getting into one of the things the book captures so well: the weird tribalism happening between women right now—working moms, stay-at-home moms, trad wives, feminists, influencers, and everyone in between. Why do we get so angry at women whose lives look different from ours? How much of that anger is actually jealousy, guilt, resentment, or just feeling like we’re failing at something everyone else seems to have figured out? I talk about my own experience as a working mom, why the perfectly curated trad wife life can be so irritating, what social media leaves out of the picture, and why I think motherhood has become another place where women feel like they have to prove they’re doing it right. And somehow we also get into $30,000 stoves, nannies nobody admits to having, dead chickens, raccoons, and why there is absolutely no such thing as effortlessly doing it all. This book gave me a lot to think about, and unfortunately, I’m nowhere near done. Part 2 coming soon... Purchase "Yesteryear" by Caro Claire Burke - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • September 17 · 43 min

    120. Why I Stopped Trying to Feed My Kids Perfectly

    A friend recently told me she wanted to hear about my “cooking journey,” which made me laugh because honestly, it has been a pretty pathetic one. I went from barely cooking at all, to living on Uber Eats, to becoming slightly obsessed with Martha Stewart and convincing myself that everything needed to be homemade, organic, beautiful, and somehow effortless. Obviously, that didn’t last. In this solo episode, I’m talking about how feeding my family has changed as I’ve changed—what I care about now, what I’ve completely let go of, and why I think moms make food way more complicated and stressful than it needs to be. Because somewhere along the way, I realized the point isn’t to cook perfectly. For me, it’s about slowing down, teaching my kids something useful, eating better when we can, and actually sitting around the table together at the end of the day. I’m still figuring it out, but I’ve definitely chilled out a lot. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • September 10 · 1 hr 23 min

    119. Let Your Kids Fail: Fatherhood, Risk & the American Dream with Mark Taylor

    Mark Taylor is one of my husband Luke’s best friends and one of those people I can never have a surface-level conversation with. Every time I talk to him, I leave thinking about something differently, so I finally decided to sit him down and ask him about all the parts of his life I somehow didn’t know after knowing him for years. We start with how Mark was raised and why he credits his parents with giving him the freedom to screw up, make his own decisions, and fail while he was still at home. That turns into a conversation about how he and his wife, Lynn, have approached raising their own four kids, why he cares more about who his kids are becoming than perfectly controlling what they do, and why he thinks there comes a point—especially with teenage boys—where a dad’s role needs to change. Then we get into Mark’s career and the influence his own dad had on the way he thinks about work and risk. We talk about starting a real estate business with two very young kids at home, taking risks without knowing exactly how they were going to work out, and the part of entrepreneurship people don’t talk about enough: sometimes it takes a really long time before any of it starts paying off. In Mark’s case, he says it was probably close to ten years before they saw real financial traction. From there, we get into real estate, housing, hospitality, homeownership, why the American Dream looks different to younger generations, and how the cost of housing may be affecting everything from wealth building to whether people feel like they can even start families. And because this is Being Different, we obviously end up talking about family, stay-at-home motherhood, feminism, social media, materialism, faith, and whether our culture is starting to realize that some of what we’ve been chasing isn’t actually making us happier. This conversation goes a lot of different places, but I think the thread running through all of it is pretty simple: build a life around what actually matters, be willing to take some risks, and don’t be so afraid of failure that you never try anything in the first place. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • September 3 · 27 min

    118. Surprise! I'm Pregnant!

    Well… surprise. I’m pregnant with baby number four. After taking about a month and a half off from the podcast because I’ve been exhausted, nauseous, and generally useless, I’m finally back with a solo episode and a lot to catch you up on. I’m sharing the very unexpected way I found out I was pregnant, why this pregnancy has kicked my ass compared to the others, how we basically survived the summer on The Lion King, and why by your fourth kid you realize you probably don’t need 90% of the baby crap people try to sell you. Then I get into something else I’ve been talking—and admittedly ranting—about for a long time: school. Last year I pissed off quite a few people with my opinions about homework, summer packets, overscheduled kids, and the fact that young children desperately need more time outside and more time to just be kids. I was told to calm down, be patient, and understand that change takes years. Well… some things actually changed. Mac’s school implemented TimberNook, homework is now optional, and I want to talk about what I learned from the whole experience—because sometimes being the squeaky wheel works. I also talk about why family dinner matters so much to me, my ongoing hatred of how insane kids’ sports culture has become, why I’m considering keeping Cooper home until he’s six, and some of the parenting decisions I wish I could go back and do differently. This one is basically a very honest life update on pregnancy, motherhood, school, advocating for your kids, admitting when you got things wrong, and refusing to accept “this is just how we do it” when you genuinely believe something could be better. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • August 6 · 1 hr 13 min

    117. Did Michaela Barnett Earn My Vote? Immigration, Abortion, and Finding Common Ground | Part 2

    In part two of my conversation with Michaela Barnett, we go straight into some of the most complicated and divisive issues in politics—and somehow manage to have a real conversation about them. We talk about immigration, ICE, border security, homelessness, addiction, affordable housing, artificial intelligence, rural healthcare, abortion, Gaza, vaccines, and the ideological inconsistencies that exist on both sides. Michaela shares how her experience working in Congress and navigating the immigration system with her husband has shaped her views, while I explain why I feel politically homeless and increasingly frustrated with both Republicans and Democrats. I also ask Michaela what she could realistically accomplish in Congress, rather than what simply sounds good on campaign material. She shares why she believes AI regulation and expanding rural healthcare could receive bipartisan support—and why politicians need to start solving the smaller issues Americans agree on instead of constantly using controversial topics to divide us. By the end of the conversation, Michaela asks me directly whether she has earned my vote. My answer is honest, complicated, and probably not what everyone expects. We do not agree on everything, but that is exactly why conversations like this matter. We need to be able to sit across from people who see the world differently, ask hard questions, listen to their answers, and look for the places where we might actually agree. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • July 16 · 1 hr 7 min

    116. Can We Fix What’s Broken? Politics, AI, Healthcare, and Hope with Michaela Barnett

    In this episode of Being Different, I sit down with Michaela Barnett for one of the most honest political conversations I have had on this podcast. I have voted Republican my entire adult life, but lately, I have felt increasingly frustrated, politically homeless, and ready to question the people and systems I once supported without hesitation. Michaela is a Democrat running against Congressman Tim Burchett, and while we do not agree on everything, I wanted to hear directly from her about why she is running and what she believes needs to change. We talk about what she witnessed while working in Washington, why Congress struggles to accomplish even the things most Americans agree on, and whether leaders can ever put the people they represent ahead of their party. We also get into term limits, corporate PAC money, campaign finance reform, foreign wars, AI regulation, hyperscale data centers, job displacement, and the very broken state of healthcare in America. This conversation did not magically answer every question I have or change every opinion I hold. But it reminded me that it is possible to disagree about the solution while still recognizing the same problems—and that our leaders should have to earn our votes instead of simply assuming they have them. Michaela and I had far more to discuss than we could fit into one conversation, so I have already asked her to come back. For now, this is a candid conversation about political frustration, finding common ground, and whether meaningful change is still possible. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • June 25 · 35 min

    115. Why I’m Still Not a Summer Packet Mom

    In this episode of Being Different, I’m revisiting the infamous summer packet. Last year, I got a lot of people fired up when I said I threw Mac’s kindergarten summer packet in the trash. So today, I’m talking through what I meant, what I still stand by, what I probably could have said better, and how I’m thinking about it now that he’s heading into first grade. This isn’t about doing nothing all summer. It’s about asking what actually matters for our kids. For me, that looks like reading books they’re interested in, learning how to help around the house, cooking, gardening, taking care of animals, practicing independence, and giving them space to follow their curiosity. I also talk about what I liked in this year’s packet, what I’ll probably skip, why I still don’t love busywork. Plus, why I think kids need more autonomy, more outdoor play, and more room to be different. And yes, I also share one of my finer parenting fails involving Charlie’s eyebrow. So there’s that too. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • June 11 · 1 hr 10 min

    114. Real Estate, Relationships, and the Things AI Can’t Replace with Debaran Hughes and Lucas Haun

    This week, I sat down with two of my very good friends and two longtime Knoxville real estate agents, Debaran Hughes and Lucas Haun, to talk about how much the real estate business has changed—and what has not changed at all. We talk about the old days of magazine ads, postcards, and cold calls, the rise of social media, the Selling Sunset-ification of real estate, and whether AI is going to change the way people buy and sell homes. Spoiler: it already is. But this conversation is really about something much bigger than marketing. Debaran and Lucas get honest about what actually makes someone good at this job: relationships, experience, availability, hard conversations, knowing the market, and being able to handle the messy stuff before it turns into a disaster. We also talk about pricing homes in a changing market, why not every agent is equipped for this business, and why the human piece still matters more than any drone video, Instagram reel, or AI-generated listing presentation. Plus, we get into work-life balance, motherhood, mentorship, my strong feelings about realtor content, and a few real estate stories that probably explain why I needed to have this conversation in the first place. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • S1 · E113
    May 21 · 1 hr 3 min

    113. Marriage, Motherhood & The Lies Our Generation Was Sold with Taylor Brasel

    This week I sit down with my friend Taylor Brasel for an honest conversation about dating, marriage, motherhood, careers, and the pressure our generation feels trying to “have it all.” Taylor is getting married in just a couple months, and hearing her talk about planning for the future with intention honestly gave me hope. We talk about the conversations nobody really prepares women for, what happens when you have kids, whether you’ll want to keep working, the financial realities of modern life, and why so many couples feel trapped by the lifestyles they’ve built. We also get into daycare, the loss of community, social media’s influence on motherhood, marriage advice we’ve learned the hard way, and why neighbors used to matter a whole lot more than they do now. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • S1 · E112
    May 14 · 25 min

    112. Motherhood, Materialism & Why the "Perfect House" Won’t Save You

    It’s just me this week, and after a complete disaster of a Mother’s Day morning, I had a lot to think about. Between Cooper dumping red dye all over the house, Charlie secretly cutting hair, missing church, and me and Luke ending up in a screaming match over a mattress and some rugs….I realized how much of our stress as parents comes from caring way too much about stuff that doesn’t actually matter. I talk about the pressure social media puts on moms to have the perfect white house, the perfect kids, the perfect routines, and why I think so much of it is making us miserable. I also share what I’ve been learning from our chickens, our new bees, and why calmness, not control, is probably the thing I need most as a mom right now. This episode is messy, honest, and probably a little too personal, but if you’ve ever felt like motherhood is exposing every flaw and attachment you have, welcome to the club. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • May 7 · 1 hr 2 min

    111. Ashley Sartelle on Why Local School Board Elections Matter

    I’ll be honest. I never paid much attention to school board races until I had kids. Then suddenly it hit me that these decisions actually matter, and I probably needed to stop pretending I had no reason to care. In this episode, I sit down with Ashley Sartelle, who is running for Knox County School Board, to ask the questions I actually wanted answered. What does the school board really do? Why are reading scores still so low? How much power does the board actually have? And why are our kids spending so much time on Chromebooks? We get into reading proficiency, technology in the classroom, teacher burnout, parent accountability, standardized testing, school budgets, and the very weird reality that some kids can just not turn things in until the end of the semester. This conversation made me realize how many pieces of the education system most of us do not understand, and how much we should probably be paying attention. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • April 23 · 37 min

    110. What a Sheriff Actually Does (And What’s Really Going On in Our Communities) with Brent Gibson

    I’ve never paid much attention to a sheriff’s race before…until now. So I sat down with Brent Gibson, who’s running for sheriff here in Knox County, and asked him everything I actually wanted to know, not the polished campaign answers, the real ones. What does a sheriff even do day to day? What’s actually happening with homelessness? Are we safe? And how much of what we see online about policing is even accurate? We get into all of it. Brent brings over 25 years in law enforcement, from SWAT to training to leadership, and what stood out to me most wasn’t just experience, it was how much of this job comes down to people, trust, and showing up in the community. What stood out to me is how much of this job comes down to people, not politics. If you’ve ever wondered what’s actually happening behind the scenes in your community, this is a real conversation about it. Support Brent: https://www.electbrentgibson.com/ Facebook | Instagram - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • S1 · E109
    April 16 · 59 min

    109. A Real Conversation About Running for Office with Angie Lawless

    Angie Lawless and I go way back. She was my co-host on a previous podcast before life got busy and we both went in completely different directions. But we made time to catch up again to talk about how she’s running for office in Nashville! So we sat down and talked through everything. How she got here, what finally pushed her to jump in, and what she’s actually seeing behind the scenes. We get into what campaigning actually looks like, what people in her district really care about, and why so much of politics feels disconnected from real life. We do not agree on everything, and we don’t try to pretend we do. But the conversation doesn’t fall apart because of that, which honestly feels rare nowadays. If you’ve ever wondered what it actually takes to run for office, or what’s happening behind the scenes of a campaign, this is a real look at it. Angie is the democratic candidate for TN State House 59 and Election Day is August 6th. Be sure to follow along with Angie on Instagram @angielawless4tn and support her campaign at angielawless.com. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • S1 · E108
    April 9 · 43 min

    108. Homework Isn’t the Problem… It’s How We’re Forcing Kids to Learn

    It’s just me today, and yes… we’re talking about homework again. But this time, I’m not just venting, I’m actually getting to the root of why it bothers me so much. Because I don’t think this is about worksheets or math pages. I think it’s about how we’re trying to force every kid into the same mold, and what happens when they don’t fit it. In this episode, I break down the difference between kids who thrive in structured, detail-oriented environments and the ones who are wired completely differently… the ones who need to move, build, explore, and learn in a way that doesn’t involve sitting still for eight hours a day. This is me trying to put words to something a lot of kids feel but don’t know how to say. They’re not “problems.” They’re just different. And if we don’t start paying attention to that, we’re going to keep crushing the very traits that might matter most later in life. If you agree, disagree, or think I’m completely off here… I want to hear it. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • S1 · E107
    April 2 · 42 min

    107. Kindergarteners Don’t Need Homework.

    It’s just me today, and I’m saying something I know not everyone is going to agree with… kindergarteners should NOT have homework. I’ve been thinking a lot about how much structure, pressure, and constant direction kids are under now, starting earlier and earlier, and how little space is left for them to just be kids. To play, to be outside, to figure things out on their own without someone telling them what to do every second of the day. This isn’t about being anti-school or anti-teacher. It’s about asking whether we’ve pushed things too far, especially for five and six year olds. I also get into the idea that not all kids are wired the same. Some thrive in structured, sit-down environments while others don’t. And when we force all of them into the same box, especially after they’ve already been at school all day, it’s no surprise things start to break down at home. So this is me laying out my thoughts childhood, family time, and what we’re prioritizing… whether we realize it or not. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • S1 · E106
    March 26 · 44 min

    106. Chris Woodruff on Burnout, Identity, and Life After Pro Tennis (Part 2)

    Chris Woodruff is back, and this is where the conversation gets deeper. In Part 2, we pick up after his comeback from injury and get into what actually made him walk away from pro tennis, what it feels like when your identity is no longer tied to performance, and why the hardest part isn’t always the grind… it’s what comes after. We talk about burnout, regret, and the question a lot of high performers quietly wrestle with: what could have been if I stayed a little longer? Chris shares how his perspective has shifted over time, and why he’s now so focused on helping his players get everything out of themselves while they still can. We also get into parenting, screens, and raising kids in a world that looks nothing like the one he grew up in. From handwritten thank you notes to limiting phone use (for both kids and college athletes), Chris explains what he believes actually builds confident, grounded humans — not just successful ones. And then we go even bigger: faith, identity, and what it means to live a life that’s actually your own. This episode is about more than tennis. It’s about discipline, purpose, and having the courage to choose your own path, even when it’s harder. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

  • S1 · E105
    March 5 · 1 hr 6 min

    105. Raising Tough Kids and Building Champions with UTK's Tennis Coach, Chris Woodruff (Part 1)

    I sat down with my friend Chris Woodruff (“Woody” if you know my husband), Tennessee’s men’s tennis coach, former top U.S. junior, and a guy who went pro, lived out of dark hotel rooms in places you can’t pronounce, and clawed his way up the rankings the hard way. We talk about what childhood looked like before screens and everything being scheduled out for kids. Chris breaks down why playing one sport too early can backfire, why the youth tournament hamster wheel messes with kids’ heads, and what he thinks actually builds durable confidence. Then we get into the pro years: starting from zero with no ranking, the brutal loneliness of tennis, why “success” doesn’t feel like success when you’ve got 24 hours to do it again, and what it’s like to represent your country when your stomach is in your throat. And then we ran out of time... so yes, he’s coming back for Part 2. And we’re picking up right where we left off: injuries, comeback, the mental health side of being “the athlete,” and what happens when the whole thing ends and real life starts. - - - - - - - - - - - Liz Durham Instagram | Website Subscribe Apple Podcast | Spotify Being Different with Liz Durham is a Palm Tree Pod Co. production

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