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Daniel Wall

Behind The Wall is more than a podcast - it’s a front-row seat to the untold stories behind iconic moments in music, film, and entertainment. Each episode pulls back the curtain on how the world’s biggest songs and scenes come to life, from raw demos to breakthrough ideas and the relentless work behind them. Hosted by Daniel Wall, it’s an honest, in-depth series with the artists, producers, and creatives who shape culture, inspiring the next generation to create and reminding us that the stories that change our lives always start Behind The Wall.

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  • S1 · E49
    Saturday · 1 hr 42 min

    How Ne-Yo Became One of the Most Successful Songwriters of Our Time (Ep. 49)

    Ne-Yo didn't just make some of the biggest songs of the 2000s. He wrote them for himself and so many others! 🎵 Ready to release your own music? I’ve personally used DistroKid for over 6 years to release my music on Spotify, Apple Music, and streaming platforms around the world. You can also use DistroKid Direct to turn your cover art into merch and sell it directly to your fans. Use my link to get 7% off DistroKid: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306🎶 The interviews don’t end when the cameras turn off. Join Behind The Wall Creatives to learn directly from the hit songwriters, producers, and artists behind the music you love, connect and collaborate with other creatives, and become a better artist, songwriter, or producer: https://www.skool.com/behindthewall/about In this episode of Behind The Wall, I sat down with Ne-Yo to go behind the songs, stories, and career of one of the most successful songwriters and artists of his generation. Before the world knew him for songs like “So Sick,” “Miss Independent,” and “Closer,” Ne-Yo was already building his career as a songwriter. He went on to write and collaborate with some of the biggest artists in the world, including Beyoncé, Rihanna, Mario, Celine Dion, and more. We talk about the stories behind some of his biggest songs, how he approaches songwriting, what makes a song connect with millions of people, writing for other artists versus himself, becoming an artist in his own right, and the lessons he's learned throughout more than two decades in the music industry. This conversation is for YOU if: 🔥 You grew up listening to 2000s R&B 🔥 You want to know the stories behind some of the biggest songs of that era 🔥 You're a songwriter, artist, or producer trying to get better at your craft 🔥 You've ever wondered what actually goes into writing a hit song 🔥 You know Ne-Yo the artist, but have no idea just how many songs he's been behind One of my favorite things about Behind The Wall is getting to sit down with the people behind the songs we all know and give them the space to tell the stories we don't always get to hear. Ne-Yo has been part of the soundtrack to so many people's lives, both through his own music and the songs he's written for others, and I'm really excited for you to hear this conversation. If you enjoy the episode, subscribe to Behind The Wall for more conversations with the artists, songwriters, producers, and creatives behind the music you love. More of Ne-Yo ⬇️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@neyo⁩ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/21E3waRsmPlU7jZsS13rcj?si=gjT0SMczSwWnLYJZYok1Xg 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neyo/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neyo ⬇️ More of Daniel 📺 YouTube: / @danielswall 📸 Instagram: / danielwall 📱 TikTok: / danielswall

  • S1 · E48
    August 16 · 1 hr 42 min

    How Russ Broke Every Rule of the Music Industry and Won (Ep. 48)

    This is hands down one of my favorite conversations we’ve ever had! Russ has built one of the most unique careers in modern music. He’s released hit records, built a massive global fanbase, and became one of the artists who helped redefine what it means to be independent in the music industry. But what I loved about this conversation is that we got to go way beyond the success and really understand how he did it. Russ takes us through his journey from making and releasing music on his own, to songs like “What They Want” and “Losin Control” changing everything, to building a career where ownership, independence, and believing in yourself have remained at the center of everything he does. But this episode isn’t just about Russ’ story. It’s about what artists can learn from it. We talk about what being independent actually means, why artists shouldn’t wait for someone else to give them permission to succeed, how to build an audience that truly cares about you, the importance of consistency, and what Russ has learned from betting on himself throughout his career. 💡 This conversation is for YOU if: 🔥 You’re an independent artist trying to build a career 🔥 You’ve ever felt like you needed a label or someone in the industry to believe in you 🔥 You want to understand how Russ built such a loyal fanbase 🔥 You’re an artist, songwriter, producer, or creative trying to turn what you love into a real career 🔥 You’ve ever doubted whether you can actually make it on your own We also dive into the stories behind his music, the lessons he’s learned throughout his career, his evolution as both an artist and entrepreneur, and the next chapter of what he’s building. What hit me most about this conversation was Russ’ belief in taking control of your own life and career. There are so many people waiting for somebody else to discover them, validate them, or give them an opportunity. Russ’ story is a reminder that sometimes you have to create that opportunity yourself. I’ve followed Russ’ journey for years, and getting the chance to finally sit down and go through his story with him was incredibly special. I genuinely think there are so many moments in this conversation that are going to connect with artists and creatives who are trying to figure out their own path. Russ, thank you for the honesty, the advice, and for trusting me to help share your story. So grateful we finally got to go Behind The Wall together. 🙏🔥 And thank you to everyone who continues to support Behind The Wall and makes conversations like this possible. I truly hope this episode inspires the next generation of independent artists and creatives to bet on themselves. 🎶 The interviews don't end when the cameras turn off. Join the Behind The Wall community, where artists, songwriters, and producers learn directly from the people behind the biggest songs in the world: https://www.skool.com/behindthewall/about 📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in MusicDownload now → https://nas.com/behindthewall/products/dxue ⬇️ More of Russ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiIETTq2It3OzW8_WYRPTyQ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/russ/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@russ?lang=en Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1z7b1Pr1rSlvWRzsW3HOrS?si=RTyfSObAQ-W7t4J_HkOb6w ⬇️ More of Daniel YouTube: / @danielswall Instagram: / danielwall TikTok: / danielswall

  • S1 · E47
    July 12 · 2 hr 23 min

    X Ambassadors Play The Demos Behind Their Biggest Songs

    One of The Most Honest Episodes of Behind The Wall.X Ambassadors have written some of the biggest songs of the last decade, including "Renegades" and "Unsteady"But behind those songs is a story of uncertainty, rejection, and a band that kept going no matter what.In this episode of Behind The Wall, Sam Harris, Casey Harris, and Adam Levin take us inside the making of X Ambassadors. We listen to original demos, break down the stories behind their biggest songs, talk about writing for artists like Rihanna, Eminem, Lizzo, and The Weeknd, and revisit the moments that completely changed the trajectory of their career.But this conversation isn't just about hit songs.It's about learning that your most honest work often becomes your most meaningful.It's about believing in yourself long before anyone else does.And it's about discovering that the songs you almost never write can end up changing your life forever.🎵 Want to release your own music? I've used DistroKid for over 6 years to get my songs on Spotify, Apple Music, and everywhere else. Use my link to get 7% off your membership ➜ https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306This conversation is for YOU if:🔥 You're a songwriter, artist, producer, or creative chasing your dream.🔥 You love hearing the stories behind iconic songs.🔥 You've ever wondered how "Renegades," "Unsteady," and X Ambassadors' biggest records were actually made.🔥 You've ever felt like giving up before your breakthrough came.What stayed with me most wasn't hearing the demos. It was realizing how many of these songs almost never existed. The songs that reached millions of people came from moments of doubt, vulnerability, and uncertainty. That's a reminder every creative needs to hear.Sam, Casey, and Adam, thank you for sharing your stories, your music, and your honesty. It was an honor to finally go Behind The Wall with you. And thank you to everyone who continues to support this show and help bring these conversations to life. I truly believe conversations like this inspire the next generation of creatives.📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in MusicDownload now → https://nas.com/behindthewall/products/dxue

  • S1 · E46
    June 21 · 51 min

    The Original Demos Behind BTS & KPop Demon Hunters

    In this special bonus episode of Behind The Wall, Jenna and Stephen take us inside the original demos behind songs for BTS and K-Pop Demon Hunters, breaking down how these records evolved from rough ideas into songs heard by millions around the world.Want to release your own music? I’ve used DistroKid for over 6 years to get my songs on Spotify, Apple Music, and everywhere else. Use my link to get 7% off your membership ➼ ⁠https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306⁠For the first time, you'll hear early versions, alternate ideas, and the creative decisions that shaped songs like "Butter," "Permission To Dance," "Free," and "What It Sounds Like."But what makes this episode so fascinating isn't just hearing the demos. It's getting a rare look into the creative process itself. How do songwriters know when an idea is special? What changes between a demo and the final version? And what does it actually take to create music that connects with people around the world?💡 This episode is for YOU if:🔥 You're an artist, songwriter, or producer trying to improve your craft🔥 You've ever wondered how hit songs sound before they're finished🔥 You love BTS, K-Pop Demon Hunters, and the stories behind the music🔥 You're fascinated by the songwriting and production processWhat hit me most while filming this wasn't how different some of the demos were. It was realizing that every song starts somewhere. Before the charts, before the streams, before millions of people hear it, every song begins as a simple idea.Jenna and Stephen, thank you for sharing these demos, your stories, and your creative process with all of us. And thank you to everyone who continues to support Behind The Wall and make conversations like this possible.I truly believe this episode will inspire the next generation of songwriters, producers, and creatives.Watch Part 1 Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYqwu_ShLZ0📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in Music Download now → https://nas.com/behindthewall/products/dxue⬇️ More of Jenna & Stphen📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejennaandrews/?hl=enhttps://www.instagram.com/iamstephenkirk/?hl=en📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thejennaandrews https://www.tiktok.com/@iamstephenkirkSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2EvaSHAnL1eSsYDMleYlO5?si=RtReMzZZRQuioU0c6oocVw https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EFDDnh7fKJYOZ?si=76c8a6f3607d419d⬇️ More of Daniel📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall

  • S1 · E45
    June 21 · 1 hr 23 min

    How They Wrote BTS' Biggest Songs... Then K-Pop Demon Hunters Happened

    This is one of those interviews that perfectly captures why Behind The Wall exists.When most people hear a song like "Butter" by BTS, they hear the finished record. What they don't see are the years of work, sacrifice, setbacks, and persistence that made that moment possible.Jenna Andrews and Stephen Kirk are two of the creative minds behind some of the biggest songs in K-pop, including BTS's global smash hit "Butter." More recently, they helped bring the music of K-Pop Demon Hunters to life, contributing to one of the biggest entertainment stories of the year.But this episode isn't really about the songs. It's about the journey.It's about almost giving up. It's about betting on yourself when nobody else sees the vision. It's about spending years developing your craft before the opportunities finally arrive.In this conversation, Jenna and Stephen share the stories behind their careers, the lessons they've learned working with some of the biggest artists in the world, what BTS was really like to work with, and how K-Pop Demon Hunters came together behind the scenes.💡 This conversation is for YOU if:🔥 You're an artist, songwriter, producer, or creative trying to make it🔥 You've ever questioned whether you're on the right path🔥 You love BTS, K-pop, or K-Pop Demon Hunters🔥 You want to learn what success actually looks like behind the scenesI've always believed the most valuable lessons come from hearing successful people talk honestly about the struggles, setbacks, failures, and experiences that shaped them long before the world knew their names.Jenna and Stephen, thank you both for your openness, generosity, and willingness to share your story. I know this conversation is going to inspire a lot of people, especially the next generation of songwriters, producers, and creatives who are still trying to find their place in the world. I hope you enjoy this one as much as I did. Welcome Behind The Wall.⬇️ More of Jenna & Stphen📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejennaandrews/?hl=enhttps://www.instagram.com/iamstephenkirk/?hl=en📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thejennaandrews https://www.tiktok.com/@iamstephenkirkSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2EvaSHAnL1eSsYDMleYlO5?si=RtReMzZZRQuioU0c6oocVw https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EFDDnh7fKJYOZ?si=76c8a6f3607d419d⬇️ More of Daniel📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall

  • S1 · E44
    June 7 · 1 hr 23 min

    GaryVee: Why Most Creators Will Never Make It (Ep. 44)

    GaryVee has spent the last two decades building businesses, predicting trends, and helping millions of people navigate the internet. But this conversation wasn't really about entrepreneurship. It was about insecurity.In this episode of Behind The Wall, Gary Vaynerchuk opens up about why he believes the internet and social media have fundamentally changed the way we see ourselves, why so many people struggle with comparison, and what it actually takes to build confidence in a world where everyone is constantly being judged.We talk about self-worth, validation, failure, happiness, relationships, creativity, and the hidden cost of living your life through other people's opinions. Gary shares lessons from his own journey, what he's learned from watching millions of people online, and why he believes most people are dramatically underestimating themselves.🎵 Want to release your own music? I’ve used DistroKid for over 6 years to get my songs on Spotify, Apple Music, and everywhere else. Use my link to get 7% off your membership ➼ ⁠https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306⁠💡 This conversation is for YOU if:🔥 You constantly compare yourself to other people online🔥 You're struggling with confidence, self-doubt, or feeling behind in life🔥 You want to build something meaningful but feel afraid of failing🔥 You're trying to figure out what actually matters and how to be happierWhat hit me most wasn't Gary's business advice. It was how much of success comes down to mindset. This conversation challenged the way I think about ambition, comparison, and the pressure we put on ourselves every day.Whether you're an entrepreneur, artist, creator, student, or simply someone trying to find your place in the world, I genuinely believe there's something in this conversation that can help you.Gary, thank you for your honesty, your energy, and for taking the time to share your perspective. And thank you to everyone who continues to support Behind The Wall and helps make conversations like this possible. I hope this episode helps someone who needs to hear it.📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in Music Download now → https://nas.com/behindthewall/products/dxue🧢 Behind The Wall Merch → [LINK]⬇️ More of GaryVee📺 YouTube: @GaryVee📸 Instagram: @garyvee📱 TikTok: @garyvee⬇️ More of Daniel📺 YouTube: @DanielsWall📸 Instagram: @danielwall📱 TikTok: @danielswall

  • S1 · E43
    May 29 · 1 hr 44 min

    The Woman Behind Avril Lavigne's Biggest Hits - Lauren Christy (Ep. 43)

    Lauren Christy helped create the soundtrack of an entire generation. Before she was writing songs like "Complicated," "Sk8er Boi," "I'm With You," and countless other hits, she was a songwriter trying to find her place in an industry that didn't always know what to do with her. In this episode of Behind The Wall, Lauren takes us through her incredible journey from aspiring artist to one of the most influential songwriters and producers of the last two decades. We talk about forming The Matrix, discovering Avril Lavigne, creating the songs that helped define the 2000s, and the reality of what happens after your life changes overnight. But this conversation isn't just about hit songs. It's about betting on yourself when nobody else sees the vision. It's about surviving the uncertainty that comes before success. And it's about what it really feels like when the thing you've spent your entire life chasing finally happens. This conversation is for YOU if: 🔥 You're a songwriter, artist, producer, or creative chasing a dream 🔥 You grew up on the music of the 2000s and want to hear the stories behind it 🔥 You've ever wondered how songs like "Complicated," "Sk8er Boi," and "I'm With You" were actually made 🔥 You've ever felt like success was taking longer than it should What hit me most wasn't just hearing the stories behind these records. It was hearing Lauren talk about the years before anyone knew her name, the setbacks, the sacrifices, and the moments where everything could have gone differently. So many people know these songs. Very few know the story of the woman who helped create them. Lauren, thank you for your honesty, your generosity, and for helping shape the music that so many of us grew up with. It was an honor to finally go Behind The Wall with you. And thank you to everyone who continues to support this show and help bring these conversations to life. I truly believe this episode will inspire the next generation of creatives. 📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in Music Download now → https://nas.io/behindthewall/products...🎵 Want to release your own music? I’ve used DistroKid for over 6 years to get my songs on Spotify, Apple Music, and everywhere else. Use my link to get 7% off your membership ➼ ⁠https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306⁠

  • S1 · E38
    May 10 · 38 min

    I Sang On Stage With Coldplay

    For my whole life, my biggest dream felt impossible.I dreamed of one day singing on stage with Coldplay. I had no idea how it would happen, and most of the time I honestly didn't believe it ever could, but I held onto that dream anyway.This video is not just about me singing on stage with my favorite band. It is about what can happen when you give yourself permission to dream bigger than what you thought was possible.My mission with Behind The Wall has always been to help the next generation of creatives believe in themselves, stay curious, and keep going. Coldplay played a huge part in shaping that mindset for me, and I'll always be grateful for how their music helped me keep moving forward, especially when I was sick in the hospital and having surgeries every six months for my childhood and teenage life.I hope one kid out there watches this and feels inspired the same way Coldplay inspired me years ago. That is why this is the most important video I've put out so far. Because I remember what Coldplay did for me, and if I can do that for someone else, it is one of the greatest gifts of all.And for anyone in a hospital room right now, or going through something that feels bigger than you, I remember what it feels like to not know how things will turn out. Please keep believing. Keep going. Keep dreaming.I want to thank everyone who helped me get here, every friend who encouraged me, every artist who trusted me with their story, every person who watched even one of my videos, and everyone who supported this journey behind the scenes. And thank you to Coldplay, Chris Martin, Phil Harvey, Will Champion, Jonny Buckland, Guy Berryman, and the entire team for helping make this moment possible. And most importantly, thank you to every single person who liked, shared, or supported the original TikTok and YouTube Short that helped make this dream come true.I also want to dedicate this video to my mom and my grandfather.Happy Mother's Day, Mom. I wanted to release this video for Mother's Day because my mom believed in me before I believed in myself. She believed in me no matter how big my dreams were. She stayed in the hospital with me through every surgery and was always there whenever I needed her. I love you forever, and I'm so grateful to have you as my mom.To my grandfather, who is no longer with us, you showed me what it means to work hard and chase something with your whole heart, even when society didn't think you could. Love you forever.Through every medical challenge and difficult time, you both helped me believe in myself, keep going, and dream bigger than what I thought was possible. I’m forever grateful to both of you.If you're a creative and your dreams feel impossible, I hope this video reminds you that impossible things can happen. Because if I can sing on stage with my favorite band, there's no limit to what is possible. Now it's your turn to follow your dreams and Everglow!

  • S1 · E41
    May 7 · 12 min

    I Asked Chris Martin if I Could Sing On Stage With Coldplay

    This video tells the story of the single scariest question I've ever asked in my life. A question that could have ended in silence, rejection, or embarrassment.For years, I dreamed of singing on stage with Coldplay. I had no connections, no guarantees, and no idea if I'd ever get the chance to ask Chris Martin directly. Then one day, the moment came. This is the full story of the fear, the hesitation, the internal battle, and the exact second life shifted. More than anything, this is a story about what can happen when you bet on yourself before you feel ready.If you're a dreamer or someone who's been scared to go for something that feels impossible, I hope this video shows you that the impossible can become possible.Coldplay and their music helped shape who I am. Their songs gave me hope during hard seasons of life and reminded me to keep going no matter how difficult things became.Thank you to my family, every friend who supported me, every person who watched even one video, and everyone who helped me build the confidence to ask something I never thought I'd say out loud.And thank you to Coldplay, Chris Martin, Phil Harvey, Will Champion, Jonny Buckland, Guy Berryman, and the entire team for making this moment possible.For anyone out there afraid to go for their dreams in life, I hope this video inspires you to go for them just like Coldplay inspired me!

  • S1 · E40
    April 26 · 20 min

    Hit-Boy Breaks Down Nipsey Hussle’s Final Song (Ep. 40)

    This is one of the most powerful moments from our conversation with Hit-Boy. In this episode of Behind The Wall, Hit-Boy takes us inside the making of Nipsey Hussle’s final song, sharing the real story behind how it happened, what that moment meant, and the responsibility of helping bring an important final chapter of Nipsey’s legacy to life. Sitting with us in the studio, Hit-Boy breaks down the song piece by piece, playing the beat, revisiting the verses with Nipsey and Roddy Ricch, explaining how the record came together, and showing how moments like this are really created behind the scenes. This is more than a song breakdown. It’s a rare look into creativity, legacy, friendship, and the emotion behind making music that lasts forever.If you love hearing the real stories behind iconic records and how great songs are truly made, this conversation is for you. 📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in Music Download now → https://nas.io/behindthewall/products Hit-Boy, thank you for trusting us with this conversation. ⬇️ More of Hit-Boy Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6q3p11nP1p80Ey6LrOOSed?si=fpp2AKFMTr2fBBFJhBCs9A Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hitboy/?hl=en YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hit-boy ⬇️ More of Daniel YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall

  • S1 · E39
    April 19 · 49 min

    How Hit-Boy Made The Biggest Rap Songs of Our Time (Ep. 39)

    In this episode of Behind The Wall, Hit-Boy opens up about the journey behind one of the most respected careers in modern music, from producing some of the biggest songs of the last decade to navigating pressure, family, reinvention, legacy, and what it truly takes to stay relevant over time.🎵 Want to release your own music? I’ve used DistroKid for over 6 years to get my songs on Spotify, Apple Music, and everywhere else. Use my link to get 7% off your membership ➼ https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306Then, sitting in the studio, Hit-Boy takes us inside the making of major records, how beats really start, how songs evolve, how to know when something is special, and what separates a good idea from something timeless. From rough ideas to finished songs, we get a rare look into the mind of someone who helped shape an era.But this episode is not just about music. It’s about believing in yourself before the world catches on. It’s about staying hungry after success. It’s about family, growth, resilience, and carrying your last name with pride. It’s about proving that longevity matters more than moments.This conversation is for YOU if:• You’re a producer, songwriter, or artist trying to level up your craft• You want to understand how hit songs are actually made• You’ve ever felt overlooked and needed motivation to keep going• You care about growth, discipline, and long-term success• You love music and want to hear the mindset behind greatnessWhat stood out to me most wasn’t just the stories behind the songs.It was Hit-Boy’s mindset. The discipline. The humility. The way he talks about growth, consistency, family, and never letting success make you comfortable.Hit-Boy, thank you for your openness, your wisdom, and for trusting me with this conversation. I’m grateful we got to go Behind The Wall with you.And thank you to everyone who continues to support this show and help bring these stories to life. This is why Behind The Wall exists, to give you a real look at the people and process behind greatness, and to inspire the next generation of creatives. 📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in Music Download now → https://nas.io/behindthewall/products...⬇️ More of Hit-BoySpotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6q3p11nP1p80Ey6LrOOSed?si=fpp2AKFMTr2fBBFJhBCs9AInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hitboy/?hl=en YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hit-boy ⬇️ More of DanielYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall

  • S1 · E37
    March 29 · 1 hr 53 min

    Why Charlie Puth Is Different From Every Artist (Ep. 38)

    This is hands down one of the most honest conversations we’ve ever had. In this episode of Behind The Wall, Charlie Puth opens up about the reality behind his success, from chasing things he thought would make him happy to realizing they didn’t, to learning what actually matters. 🎵 Want to release your own music? I’ve used DistroKid for over 6 years to get my songs on Spotify, Apple Music, and everywhere else. Use my link to get 7% off your membership ➼ ⁠https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306⁠ Then, sitting at the piano, Charlie takes us inside his biggest songs, breaking down how they really started, how they evolved, and how he actually turns ideas into hit records. From early melodies to finished songs, we get a rare look into how his mind works and why he hears music the way he does.
But this episode isn’t just about the music. It’s about feeling misunderstood, hiding parts of yourself, and trying to figure out what it means to truly be seen and understood, not just by the world, but by yourself. This conversation is for YOU if: * You’re an artist, songwriter, or producer trying to find your sound * You want to understand how hit songs are actually made * You’ve ever felt misunderstood or like people don’t fully see you * You love music and want to experience it on a deeper level What hit me most wasn’t just hearing how these songs were made, it was Charlie’s honesty. The way he talks about music, success, identity, and the pressure to be understood is something I think a lot of people will connect with. Charlie, thank you for your openness, your honesty, and for trusting me with this conversation. I truly believe this is one of the most real and meaningful interviews you’ve ever done. And thank you to everyone who continues to support Behind The Wall and help bring these stories to life. This is why the show exists, to give you a real look at the people and process behind the music, and to inspire the next generation of creatives.

  • S1 · E36
    March 22 · 1 hr 36 min

    How Diplo Became BTS & BLACKPINK's Music Producer (Ep. 37)

    Diplo didn’t follow a traditional path into music. From studying film and discovering global sounds, to building Major Lazer and collaborating across genres with artists like BTS and BLACKPINK, his career has been defined by one thing: doing what others weren’t willing to try.In this episode, Diplo breaks down how some of the world’s biggest songs started as ideas that didn’t make sense at first, and why that’s often exactly where the best music comes from.But this conversation goes way beyond the songs. It’s about how he built his career by following curiosity instead of trends, learning from different cultures and sounds, taking risks before there was any guarantee they would work, and staying adaptable as the industry continues to evolve💡 This conversation is for YOU if:- You’re an artist, songwriter, or producer trying to find your voice- You’re tired of feeling like you have to follow a formula- You want to understand how to stand out in a crowded space- You’re looking for a new way to think about creativity and growthWhat stood out most to me was his perspective on creativity, the idea that there isn’t one path, one genre, or one formula that leads to success. It’s about being willing to experiment, to stay open, and to keep moving even when the direction isn’t fully clear yet.Diplo shares lessons from years of building across different sounds, cultures, and moments in music, and how those experiences shaped the way he approaches creating today.Diplo, thank you for sharing your journey and your perspective. And to everyone watching, I hope this conversation gives you the confidence to trust your ideas and create something that feels true to you.⬇️ More of Diplo 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/diplo/?hl=en / jonasbrothers📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@diplo📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCKp7UVaoVuiW1qtyPLPVFMQ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5fMUXHkw8R8eOP2RNVYEZX?si=cH8dlqA2Smu1GId0JXqqQQ⬇️ More of Daniel📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/?hl=en 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall?lang=en 🎵 Want to release your own music? I’ve used DistroKid for over 6 years to get my songs on Spotify, Apple Music, and everywhere else. Use my link to get 7% off your membership ➼ ⁠https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306⁠

  • January 31 · 1 hr 36 min

    Meet The Real Singer of The Greatest Showman (Loren Allred Interview - EP. 36)

    This might be the first time Loren Allred has ever shared her full story from beginning to now.Most people know Loren as the voice behind “Never Enough” from The Greatest Showman, one of the most powerful vocal performances in modern film. But very few people know the years that led up to that moment or the long road she took before the world ever heard her name.Loren grew up in a musical family, trained as a singer, and at one point had a developmental deal with Ne-Yo and Island Def Jam. It was her big break, the moment everything seemed to be happening at once. And then almost overnight, it all disappeared. The deal fell apart, the momentum vanished, and she found herself back at zero, unsure of how to move forward.Instead of quitting, Loren went into the shadows of the industry, recording demos and session vocals for other artists with no guarantee any of it would lead to a career. Those years of anonymity eventually led to The Voice, where she spent a full year preparing for the show, only to watch most of her journey turn into a montage that almost no one saw.And then something unexpected happened. She was asked to demo a song for a film musical that no one had heard of yet. That song became “Never Enough.” When the film came out, millions of people around the world fell in love with her voice without knowing who it belonged to. It was one of the strangest kinds of breakthroughs: the world heard her, but they didn’t see her. And even then, it took more time before Loren stepped out from behind the character and became an artist in her own right.What moved me in this conversation was not just the music. It was Loren’s resilience. Her belief in her craft. The years spent unseen. The almost-breaks that fell apart. And the patience it took to wait for her moment without knowing if it would ever arrive.This interview is for you if:• you are a singer, songwriter, or performer trying to find your way• you have ever been close to success and watched it slip away• you have worked for years without recognition• you believe in late bloomers and second (or third) acts• you love hearing how creative careers actually unfoldTo me, Loren’s story is a reminder that the industry rarely rewards people instantly. Sometimes it takes years. Sometimes it takes heartbreak. Sometimes it takes a role where the world hears you before they know your name. But if you stay in it long enough, your moment finds you.Loren, thank you for trusting us with your story and for letting people see the journey behind the voice that so many already love.📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in Music → https://nas.io/behindthewall/products/dxue🧢 Behind The Wall Merch Drop👕 Be one of the first 150 people and get 20% off with code: WALL20 → https://behindthewall.tv/collections/all⬇️ More of LorenSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0LyOADBjj28cbvJWTXUEGA?si=J-dC2-DOSy-_pGcmDgbHyw Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lorenallred/?hl=enSpotify: https://www.tiktok.com/@lorenallredofficial YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lorenallred ⬇️ More of Daniel Wall📺 YouTube: / @danielswall📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall

  • S1 · E34
    January 9 · 1 hr 7 min

    I Asked the World’s Biggest Songwriters How They Really Write Hit Songs (EP. 35)

    SONA Awards X TikTok X Behind The Wall I had the honor of hosting the red carpet at the SONA Awards in partnership with TikTok, where we celebrated and spoke with the songwriters, advocates, and leaders who shape the music we all live with .SONA, the Songwriters of North America, exists to protect, empower, and fight for the people behind the songs. This night was not about charts or headlines. It was about craft, conviction, and voices that too often go unheard.I am incredibly grateful to TikTok for having me be part of this moment. I started on TikTok six or seven years ago, and being able to host this conversation with them felt full circle in the most meaningful way. These conversations go deep into what it truly means to be a songwriter today, the responsibility that comes with creating culture, and the ongoing fight for fairness, ownership, and respect in the music industry.I spoke with an incredible group of artists and leaders, including Paul Anka, Shane Stevens, Bonnie McKee, Lauren Christy, Ross Golan, Jason Evigan, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Bonnie McKee, JHart, Sarah Hudson, Annie Schindel, Michelle Williams, Salem Ilese, 220Kid, Dinah LaPolt, Crispin Hunt, and Lawrence Pastel. Together, they shared stories about writing songs that outlive moments, navigating an industry that does not always favor creators, and why community matters just as much as creativity. From legendary careers to the next generation of hitmakers, every voice reflected the same truth. Songwriters are the foundation of everything. This conversation is for you if - You care about the people behind the music - You believe creators deserve ownership, protection, and a seat at the table - You want to understand how songs shape culture long after release day - You want to make Songwriting your full time thing. Grateful to SONA, TikTok, and all the Songwriters for trusting me with this and for the work they continue to do on behalf of songwriters everywhere. ⬇️ More of SONA Website: https://www.songwritersofnorthamerica.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/songwritersofnorthamerica X: https://x.com/SONAunited Learn more about songwriter advocacy, education, and community ⬇️ More of Daniel 📺 YouTube: / @danielswall 📸 Instagram: / danielwall 📱 TikTok: / danielswall

  • S1 · E33
    Dec 18, 2025 · 1 hr 50 min

    How EJAE Wrote KPop Demon Hunters’ Biggest Songs (Ep. 34)

    This is hands down one of my favorite interviews we’ve ever done! EJAE is the voice and songwriter behind the music of KPop Demon Hunters, and in this conversation, she takes us inside the early demos and original versions that brought the film’s songs to life. For the first time ever, EJAE breaks down how these songs started, how they evolved, and what it actually takes to go from rough ideas to music that reaches billions. We listen to early versions, talk through creative decisions, and unpack the emotional weight behind writing these songs. But this episode is not just about demos. It’s about her journey of being a trainee, to facing setbacks, to becoming one of the most impactful creative voices in modern music. It's truly amazing how similar EJAE's story is to the character she voices, Rumi. EJAE opens up about doubt, imposter syndrome, persistence, and trusting your instincts even when the path is unclear. This conversation is for YOU if:
 - You’re an artist, songwriter, or producer trying to find your voice
 - You want to hear how songs really start before they become finished records
 - You’ve ever felt stuck, overlooked, or unsure if your work matters
 - You love KPop, film music, and the creative process behind itWhat hit me most wasn’t just hearing the early demos, it was EJAE’s mindset, her honesty about the long road, the patience it takes, and the belief required to keep going when nothing is guaranteed. This episode reminded me why Behind The Wall started in the first place. To shine a light on the people and stories behind the music, but also to inspire the next geenration of creatives. And it was such a surreal experience to know that EJAE was one of the people we inspired through Behind The Wall years ago when she would watch these interviews and now she's on Behind The Wall herself. What a full circle moment! EJAE, thank you for your openness, your generosity, and for trusting me to help share your story even further. I’m incredibly grateful we officially got to go Behind The Wall with you. And thank you to everyone who continues to support this show and help bring these stories to life. I truly believe this episode will inspire the next generation of creatives. ⬇️ More of EJAE YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChJvkgT3HUyy8KoT3b-IgbA Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0RMJOzHDhAKY1o2j0W0vxY?si=l2y3fsLBR0WxK4g8BdA-ZQ 
 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ejae_k/ 
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  • S1 · E32
    Dec 7, 2025 · 24 min

    Demos Revealed: How Maroon 5, Demi Lovato and Nick Jonas’ Biggest Hits Were Made (w/Jason Evigan) - Ep. 33

    This episode is wild. Jason Evigan sat down with us and played the original demos for some of the biggest songs he worked on from Maroon 5, Demi Lovato, Ellie Goulding, Nick Jonas, and more. It's my goal to help the next generation of creatives and give them a platform I wish I had when I was first starting. Songwriters and producers almost never show early versions of songs, and honestly, most of the world never gets to hear what a hit sounds like before it becomes a hit.These demos are raw, unpolished, and real. They’re the ideas that turned into massive records, and hearing Jason walk through how they started, why certain choices were made, and how the songs evolved is one of the coolest things we've been able to share on Behind The Wall. And I believe it’s going to help a lot of people who are writing in their bedrooms, producing in their dorm rooms, or doubting their ideas before they’re fully formed. These demos prove that even the biggest hits started small.Thank you to Jason for trusting us with this, and thank you for watching and supporting the show. I hope this episode inspires you to keep making things, keep experimenting, and keep following the spark that only you can feel.Where You Can Find More of Jason Evigan:*Playlist of The Songs Jason Co-Wrote: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EFJsmusdNvXOG?si=1d59d8970b394246 *Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonevigan/?hl=en *TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@elephant_heart*Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/@danielsecretwall*Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2nwPBvsuf070C7KYSWoXbD?si=Co9XWKFhRSGgDXf2Vq8NRQ Where You Can Find More of Daniel Wall:*YouTube: ‪https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall*TikTok: ‪https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall *Instagram: ‪https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/?hl=en*Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/@danielsecretwall*Playlist of The Songwriters: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7zub00BWq11qjXx2aMM0b2?si=12a20c414c50486f

  • S1 · E31
    Nov 24, 2025 · 1 hr 38 min

    How The Savannah Bananas Became the Most Entertaining Show in America (Jesse Cole interview - Ep. 32)

    Jesse Cole: How the Savannah Bananas Rewrote the Rules of Sports This isn’t just a story about baseball. It’s about turning the impossible into reality. Jesse Cole didn’t just build a baseball team. He built one of the most viral, rule-breaking, joy-filled movements in all of sports. The Savannah Bananas are changing how the world sees entertainment, one dance, one inning, one sold-out stadium at a time. In this episode, Jesse breaks down the journey behind the Bananas. From struggling to sell a single ticket to creating a waitlist of over 2 million fans, Jesse shares how he turned rejection, risk, and bold vision into a global phenomenon. But behind the yellow tux and the showmanship is a powerful story about belief, team culture, and redefining what success looks like in sports and business. This conversation is for YOU if: - You’re a creator, founder, or entrepreneur chasing an idea no one believes in yet - You’ve ever wondered what it really takes to build something people love - You believe fun and authenticity can change everything - You’re tired of playing by the rules that were never built for you Jesse opens up about the moments he almost gave up, the principles that guide his team, and why the Savannah Bananas are proof that joy wins. This interview fired me up. It reminded me that doing things differently isn’t just okay, it might be our best way forward. Jesse, thank you for showing us what it means to dream in color, lead with love, and make people feel something unforgettable. 📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in Music → https://nas.io/behindthewall/products 🧢 Behind The Wall Merch Drop 👕 Be one of the first 150 people and get 20% off with code: WALL20 → https://behindthewall.tv/collections/all ⬇️ More of Jesse + The Bananas 📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSavannahBananas 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesavbananas 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thesavbananas ⬇️ More of Daniel 📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@danielswall 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall

  • S1 · E30
    Nov 9, 2025 · 41 min

    I Interviewed Bruce Springsteen And What He Said Surprised Everyone (Ep. 31)

    Bruce Springsteen: The Story Behind Deliver Me From Nowhere I had the honor of hosting a conversation with Bruce Springsteen, Jon Landau, Scott Cooper, Jeremy Strong, and Odessa Young for the new film Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere. This isn’t just a movie about music - it’s about what it means to be an artist. It’s about faith, creativity, and the courage to follow your vision even when no one else sees it. In this interview, the team goes deep into the making of Deliver Me From Nowhere - from how Bruce’s haunting album Nebraska inspired the story, to how director Scott Cooper brought that honesty to the screen. Jon Landau reflects on his lifelong partnership with Bruce, Jeremy Strong shares what it was like to portray that bond, and Odessa Young opens up about finding emotion in a story defined by isolation, faith, and art. This conversation is for you if: - You love seeing how great films are built from the ground up - You’re a creative who’s ever struggled with doubt or conviction - You want to understand how Nebraska became one of the most personal albums ever made - You believe storytelling still has the power to move people Hosting this was one of the greatest moments of Behind The Wall so far, and a reminder that the best art often comes from the moments when we trust our own voice. Grateful to Disney for having me host this conversation. Watch Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere - In theaters now! I'd highly recommend any creative out there to watch this one ⬇️ More of Daniel 📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall

  • S1 · E29
    Nov 2, 2025 · 1 hr 19 min

    How Grey DeLisle Voiced The Most Famous Characters in Animation (Ep. 30)

    Grey DeLisle: The Voice Behind Your Childhood (and So Much More) This is one of the most fun, heartfelt, and unexpectedly deep interviews I’ve ever done. Grey DeLisle isn’t just one of the most legendary voice actors alive. She’s the voice behind Azula (Avatar: The Last Airbender), Daphne Blake (Scooby-Doo), Vicky (The Fairly OddParents), Mandy (The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy), Sam Manson (Danny Phantom), Frankie Foster (Foster’s Home for Imaginary Friends), Catwoman (Batman: Arkham City), Black Canary (Young Justice), and thousands more. Her voice has defined an entire era of animation and video games. But behind all those voices is a story just as incredible as the characters she’s brought to life. She’s also a Grammy-winning artist and comedian, bringing the same heart, humor, and emotion to her music and stand-up that she brings to every role. In this episode, Grey takes us behind the voices and into the moments that shaped her career. From growing up surrounded by music and chaos, to finding her voice in animation, to using comedy and creativity to navigate the highs and lows of the industry. This conversation is for YOU if: - You grew up with the golden age of 2000s animation - You’re an artist, actor, voice actor, or creative finding your voice - You’ve ever struggled with self-doubt or reinvention - You love hearing the stories behind the characters that shaped your childhood Grey opens up about how she created some of the most iconic voices in animation history, how she balances her comedy, music, and family life, and what it means to stay authentic in a world that’s constantly changing. This interview made me laugh, think, and honestly reflect on how powerful creativity really is. It reminded me that even the people who seem larger than life are still just humans chasing what they love. Grey, thank you for sharing your heart, your humor, and your story. And thank you for making all of our childhoods a little more colorful. ⬇️ More of Grey📺 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2crxUkgEZN8zedQMY49EOt?si=dY3lUV_mQlWk3LfdhqpZSw 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greydelisle📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@greydelisle?lang=en ⬇️ More of Daniel 📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall

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