Behavior Buzzzzzz with 2 Amys

Dr. Amy L. Pike & Dr. Amy Learn

We're your sassy hosts, Dr. Amy L. Pike and Dr. Amy Learn, A.K.A...THE AMYS! As Board Certified Veterinary Behaviorists, we understand the challenges of pet guardianship. Every day we diagnose and treat behavior problems. And, every day we help pets and their people navigate the sea of confusing, misleading, and downright false information swirling around on the internet and social media.

We provide clinical insight into underlying causes of behavior problems, make cynical sense of nonsense, disprove myths, and promote positive, trusting human/animal relationships.

We're dedicated to modern, science-based intervention without the use of pain, fear, force, or intimidation. It is our mission to drive comprehensive pet wellness to the forefront of veterinary medicine and mainstream pet culture. JOIN US and the HIVE MIND, to set the record straight on the hottest and most controversial topics we encounter as clinicians, educators, and guardians.

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Jun 3, 2024 · 42 min
The 420 - Clearing the CBD Smokescreen
Do you know what costs A LOT more than a bottle of CBD oil? A trip to the ER. Join the Amys and their mentor, Dr. Lisa Radosta, as they clear the smokescreen and hash out the science regarding the use of cannabis products in veterinary medicine. The market is flooded with so-called quick-fix solutions to common pet behavior problems. And, when pet parents are desperately searching for answers, it can be challenging to navigate the barrage of messaging and pseudoscience available at their fingertips. Given the inconsistencies in policy and legislation, and society’s differing ideologies and moral considerations regarding the use of cannabis, the lines are further blurred and the truth even more allusive. Alas, our best option is to do what we do best - follow the science! What’s actually contained in the CBD products that are marketed to pet parents? Is there any scientific evidence that CBD products treat our pet’s behavioral concerns when administered according to labeled instructions? Are Certificates of Analysis verifying a product’s quality, safety, and regulatory compliance required for every CBD product available on the market? It’s time to clear the air and set the record straight. Grab a cocktail and get up to speed on the latest buzzzzzz during episode 12 of the Behavior Buzzzzzz with 2 Amys veterinary behavior podcast. Dr. Lisa’s website Dr. Lisa’s Resources for Pet Parents Follow Dr. Lisa Radosta on Instagram & Facebook LinkedIn @drlisaradosta YouTube @drlisaradosta Visit The Honey Pot at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com for additional episode references and more information about our brilliant guest, Dr. Lisa Radosta. Thanks, Dr. Lisa !! Bee Positive. Bee Informed. JOIN US and the HIVE MIND at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com Facebook behaviorbuzzzzzz Instagram @behaviorbuzzzzzz Thank you to our amazing sponsors: PRN Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile® Nestlé Purina PetCare, makers of Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets & Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Supplements Malena DeMartini, Inc. founder, Certified Separation Anxiety Training (CSAT) & Mission POSSIBLE Ceva Animal Health, makers of ThunderEase® & FELIWAY® products Amy L. Pike, DVM, DACVB, IAABC-CDBC - Co-Host Amy Learn, VMD, DACVB, IAABC-CABC - Co-Host Teryn Blais, Executive Producer John LaSala, Podcast Editor
Apr 29, 2024 · 43 min
Sleeping with the Fishes
Have you ever wondered what it’s like to be a dolphin trainer? Join the Amys for a deep dive into the world of aquatic and exotic animal training with Ashley Conlin, IAABC CDBC, IAABC ADT, and owner of Pets Behave Dog Training in sunny Niceville, Florida, as they discuss the most important element in every training relationship - TRUST. Before shifting her focus to dogs, Ashley worked with dolphins, stingrays, sharks, sea turtles, alligators, and birds in zoos and aquariums around the world. She knows all about the patience, learning theory, and creativity required when conditioning dolphins to station for a blood draw. Let’s be honest, you can’t put a shock collar on a dolphin. So, why are some dog “trainers” still using outdated, inhumane techniques and promoting disproven, unscientific theories to justify their methods? Why is it even allowed? When will the dog training industry as a whole, wake up and smell the big, stinky bucket of thawed fish and squid that is aversive and punishment-based training? When will we ban the use of fear, force, and pain in favor of science, trust, and FUN? Grab your wetsuit and a cocktail, as we explore the curiosities of cetacean communication and behavior during episode 11 of the Behavior Buzzzzzz with 2 Amys veterinary behavior podcast. (Or, should I say “Pod”cast? 🤔) Visit The Honey Pot at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com for additional episode references and more information about our radient and passionate guest, Ashley Conlin. Thanks, Ashley !!🐬 Bee Positive. Bee Informed. JOIN US and the HIVE MIND at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com Facebook behaviorbuzzzzzz Instagram @behaviorbuzzzzzz Thank you to our amazing sponsors: PRN Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile® Nestlé Purina PetCare, makers of Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets & Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Supplements Malena DeMartini, Inc. founder, Certified Separation Anxiety Training (CSAT) & Mission POSSIBLE Ceva Animal Health, makers of ThunderEase® & FELIWAY® products Amy L. Pike, DVM, DACVB, IAABC-CDBC - Co-Host Amy Learn, VMD, DACVB, IAABC-CABC - Co-Host Teryn Blais, Executive Producer John LaSala, Podcast Editor
Apr 10, 2024 · 7 min
Buzzzzzz Byte - MISSION KITTEN!
Let's play the name game! Join your favorite veterinary behaviorists, The Amys! and their fabulous friend Dr. Liz Bales, inventor of Doc and Phoebe's Indoor Hunting Cat Feeder, for the first ever BUZZZZZZ BYTE challenge! We need your help, HIVE. MIND! Who's ready to tackle MISSION KITTEN? Bee Positive. Bee Informed. JOIN US and the HIVE MIND at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com Facebook behaviorbuzzzzzz Instagram @behaviorbuzzzzzz Thank you to our amazing sponsors: PRN Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile® Nestlé Purina PetCare, makers of Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets & Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Supplements Malena DeMartini, Inc. founder, Certified Separation Anxiety Training (CSAT) & Mission POSSIBLE Ceva Animal Health, makers of ThunderEase® & FELIWAY® products Amy L. Pike, DVM, DACVB, IAABC-CDBC - Co-Host Amy Learn, VMD, DACVB, IAABC-CABC - Co-Host Teryn Blais, Executive Producer John LaSala, Podcast Editor
Feb 20, 2024 · 26 min
Life Imitates Art
Join the Amys and their brilliant guest, renowned illustrator Lili Chin, as they discuss her inspirational journey - from animator, to interpreter of animal communication and behavior. Lili has famously captivated veterinary and behavior professionals, children, and adults alike with her endearing animal illustrations. In addition to publishing her own books, she has illustrated for groundbreaking behavior legends Dr. Sophia Yin and Grisha Stewart, and has even been commissioned by the IAABC. Lili is deeply passionate about improving human/animal communication and relationships, which is resoundingly evident in her body of work. Lili is responsible for gifting the world her careful renderings of Boogie, her precious muse. Boogie wiggled his way into the hearts of fans, and his adorably expressive, blue-eyed likeness will forever be synonymous with the artist herself. Get to know the thoughtful creator behind your favorite behavior illustrations, and find out when Lili's next much-anticipated bestseller will hit the shelves. Grab a cosmo (or a mocktail) and get up to speed on the latest buzzzzzz during episode 9 of the Behavior Buzzzzzz with 2 Amys veterinary behavior podcast. Follow Lili on social media & learn more: Lili on Instagram & Facebook Lili's website Doggie Drawings Doggie Language: A Dog Lover's Guide to Understanding Your Best Friend. Summersdale. October 2020. Kitty Language: An Illustrated Guide To Understanding Your Cat. Ten Speed Press. Summer 2023. Visit The Honey Pot at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com for additional episode references and more information about our bee-autifully creative and captivating guest, Lili Chin. Thanks, Lili 😘!! Bee Positive. Bee Informed. JOIN US and the HIVE MIND at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com Facebook behaviorbuzzzzzz Instagram @behaviorbuzzzzzz Thank you to our amazing sponsors: PRN Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile® Nestlé Purina PetCare, makers of Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets & Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Supplements Malena DeMartini, Inc. founder, Certified Separation Anxiety Training (CSAT) & Mission POSSIBLE Ceva Animal Health, makers of ThunderEase® & FELIWAY® products Amy L. Pike, DVM, DACVB, IAABC-CDBC - Co-Host Amy Learn, VMD, DACVB, IAABC-CABC - Co-Host Teryn Blais, Executive Producer John LaSala, Podcast Editor
Jan 23, 2024 · 24 min
The Amys Have Lost Their Marbles - CDS
Join the Amys as they discuss Cognitive Dysfunction Syndrome (CDS), a common age-related neurodegenerative disorder characterized by gradual and progressive cognitive decline in dogs and cats, similar to Alzheimer's disease in humans. The Amys discuss cognition, and how changes in awareness and responsiveness to stimuli impact our pet's memory and behavior. They cover the physical changes that occur in the brain that lead to decline, and, the intimate connection between pain and systemic illness. What is inflammaging? Can I screen my dog for CDS at home? What management strategies can help to keep aging pets safe and comfortable? Can a combination of canine neuro-specific diets and supplements, enrichment, and training impact the progression of the disease? Learn how positive changes you make today can improve longterm outcomes of CDS. Grab a cocktail and get up to speed on the latest buzzzzzz during episode 8 of the Behavior Buzzzzzz with 2 Amys veterinary behavior podcast. Resources: DISHAA Assessment Tool - Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets What is DISHAA? Disorientation, Social Interactions, Sleep/Wake Cycles, Housesoiling, Learning & Memory, Activity, and Anxiety NeuroCare™ (NC) - Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets CAnine DEmentia Scale (CADES) https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fvets.2020.551895/full Visit the Honey Pot at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com for additional episode references and more information about the products featured in today's episode. This episode is sponsored by Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets, makers of NeuroCare™ (NC). Thank you, Nestlé Purina PetCare! Bee Positive. Bee Informed. JOIN US and the HIVE MIND at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com Facebook behaviorbuzzzzzz Instagram @behaviorbuzzzzzz Thank you to our amazing sponsors: PRN Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile® Nestlé Purina PetCare, makers of Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets & Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Supplements Malena DeMartini, Inc. founder, Certified Separation Anxiety Training (CSAT) & Mission POSSIBLE Ceva Animal Health, makers of ThunderEase® & FELIWAY® products Amy L. Pike, DVM, DACVB, IAABC-CDBC - Co-Host Amy Learn, VMD, DACVB, IAABC-CABC - Co-Host Teryn Blais, Executive Producer John LaSala, Podcast Editor
Jan 2, 2024 · 50 min
Hunger Games - May the Odds Be Ever In Your Favor
Join the Amys and their cat-tastic guest, Tabitha Kucera, RVT, KPA-CPT, CCBC, VTS (behavior), and owner of Chirrups and Chatter Behavior Consulting and Training in Cleveland, Ohio, as they pounce, feet first (am I righting?), into the dynamics of cat behavior and intercat aggression. Misconceptions, myths, and generalizations about cat behavior have resulted in misleading and harmful labels that leave kitties in the dark when it comes to standards for behavioral wellness, quality of life, and cooperative care. And, when the dynamics of a multicat environment echo a blockbuster battle - a fight to the death until there is only one survivor - cat guardians are led astray and left to contemplate solutions that aren't typically supported by modern science. The time is meow to set the record straight and get down to the WTF? (it doesn't mean what you think it means) of cat behavior and aggression. Are cats actually aloof creatures that merely tolerate our presence, and manipulate our minds? Or, has society contributed to our perception of cats and their behavior? Does the language we use to describe cat behavior in professional settings impact perceptions, expectations, and outcomes of treatment? How does pain, choice, motivation, and enrichment factor into behavioral wellness? Grab a glass of catbernet, and get up to speed on the latest buzzzzzz during episode 7 of the Behavior Buzzzzzz with 2 Amys veterinary behavior podcast. May the odds be ever in your favor. Follow Tabitha on Instagram & Facebook Tabitha on TikTok @behaviorvettech Tails from a Vet Tech - a podcast dedicated to highlighting, educating, and advocating for veterinary, shelter, and behavior animal pros. Visit The Honey Pot at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com for additional episode references and more information about our bee-autiful, brilliant, and captivating guest, Tabitha Kucera. Thanks, Tabitha 😘!! We love you! Bee Positive. Bee Informed. JOIN US and the HIVE MIND at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com Facebook behaviorbuzzzzzz Instagram @behaviorbuzzzzzz Thank you to our amazing sponsors: PRN Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile® Nestlé Purina PetCare, makers of Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets & Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Supplements Malena DeMartini, Inc. founder, Certified Separation Anxiety Training (CSAT) & Mission POSSIBLE Ceva Animal Health, makers of ThunderEase® & FELIWAY® products Amy L. Pike, DVM, DACVB, IAABC-CDBC - Co-Host Amy Learn, VMD, DACVB, IAABC-CABC - Co-Host Teryn Blais, Executive Producer John LaSala, Podcast Editor
Nov 27, 2023 · 19 min
Holiday from Hell
There's no place like Hell for the Holidays! Join the Amys for "tails" of holidays past, and lessons in holidays present and future. Even naughty pets can make the nice list with the proper stress management strategies in place. Keep your fur babies safe, and your in-laws feeling right at home, with ideas from your favorite doctor duo, The Amys! Grab a cocktail, and get up to speed on the latest buzzzzzz during episode 6 of the Behavior Buzzzzzz with 2 Amys veterinary behavior podcast. Resources: ASPCA Holiday Pet Safety Tips ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center ASPCA Poison Control Hotline : (888) 426-4435 NOMV Not One More Vet Crisis Text Line NIH Suicide Prevention CDC Suicide Prevention National Suicide Prevention Hotline: 988 Visit the Honey Pot at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com for additional episode references and more information about the products featured in today's episode. This episode is sponsored by Ceva Animal Health, makers of ThunderEase® & FELIWAY® products. Thank you, Ceva! ADAPTIL® and FELIWAY® are registered trademarks of Ceva Santé Animale S.A. ThunderEase®, ThunderWunders®, and ThunderShirt® are registered trademarks of ThunderShirt LLC All cats and dogs are unique. Results may vary significantly depending on behavioral training, the presence of other pets and other environmental factors. ThunderEase® is not recommended for cases of hyperactivity or aggression. In some cases, additional medical treatment and/or environmental modiﬁcations may be required, and advice should be sought from your veterinarian or a qualiﬁed animal behaviorist if there are signs of disease, consult your veterinarian. Bee Positive. Bee Informed. JOIN US and the HIVE MIND at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com Facebook behaviorbuzzzzzz Instagram @behaviorbuzzzzzz Thank you to our amazing sponsors: PRN Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile® Nestlé Purina PetCare, makers of Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets & Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Supplements Malena DeMartini, Inc. founder, Certified Separation Anxiety Training (CSAT) & Mission POSSIBLE Ceva Animal Health, makers of ThunderEase® & FELIWAY® products Amy L. Pike, DVM, DACVB, IAABC-CDBC - Co-Host Amy Learn, VMD, DACVB, IAABC-CABC - Co-Host Teryn Blais, Executive Producer John LaSala, Podcast Editor
Nov 5, 2023 · 41 min
Back Alley Drug Dealing
Join the Amys and their distinguished guest, Julia Albright, DVM, MA, DACVB, and Associate Professor of Veterinary Behavior at University of Tennessee College of Veterinary Medicine, as they venture into the dark, dirty, and dangerous back alleys of illicit drug dealing. The unregulated training industry has left the door wide open for unqualified imposters, posing as experts, to deceive pet parents and veterinarians alike. These shady charlatans falsify their education history and credentials, and grant themselves carte blanche to not only make drug recommendations to unsuspecting pet parents, but actually convince veterinary practitioners to prescribe specific psychotropic medications. Who really has the power to recommend and prescribe medication? How can pet parents and practitioners protect themselves from these unethical and illegal predators? How do the actual experts feel about these dangerous deceptors? Grab a cocktail, and get up to speed on the latest buzzzzzz during episode 5 of the Behavior Buzzzzzz with 2 Amys veterinary behavior podcast. Caveat emptor! Resources: AVSAB Position Statement on How to Choose a Trainer Visit The Honey Pot at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com for additional episode references and more information about our esteemed guest, Dr. Julia Albright. Thanks, Dr. Julie! Bee Positive. Bee Informed. JOIN US and the HIVE MIND at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com Facebook behaviorbuzzzzzz Instagram @behaviorbuzzzzzz Thank you to our amazing sponsors: PRN Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile® Nestlé Purina PetCare, makers of Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets & Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Supplements Malena DeMartini, Inc. founder, Certified Separation Anxiety Training (CSAT) & Mission POSSIBLE Ceva Animal Health, makers of ThunderEase® & FELIWAY® products Amy L. Pike, DVM, DACVB, IAABC-CDBC - Co-Host Amy Learn, VMD, DACVB, IAABC-CABC - Co-Host Teryn Blais, Executive Producer John LaSala, Podcast Editor
Oct 22, 2023 · 47 min
Born Again Trainer
Join the Amys and their extraordinary guest, Mandy Eakins, IAABC-CDBC, CPDT-KA, KPA CTP, and Owner of Manners Matter Dog Training and Daycare, for a candid and introspective discussion on the use of pain, force, fear, and intimidation in the dog training industry. What is LIMA, and why is it so important? Why do flashy, social media dog “trainers” attract followers? What is learned helplessness? Mandy shares her passionate perspective on these controversial topics including how we can implement regulation, hold trainers accountable, and protect pets and their guardians from dangerous misinformation and abuse. Grab a cocktail, and get up to speed on the latest buzzzzzz during episode 4 of the Behavior Buzzzzzz with 2 Amys veterinary behavior podcast. Resources: ACVB Position Statement on Aversive Training Practices Promoted by Augusto DeOliveira otherwise known as “Dog Daddy” AVSAB Position Statement on Humane Dog Training AVSAB Position Statement on Dominance Theory IAABC Position Statement on The Use of Flooding in Animal Training and Behavior Consulting IAABC Position Statement on Dominance Theory Visit The Honey Pot at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com for additional episode references and more information about our very special guest, Mandy Eakins. Thanks, Mandy! Bee Positive. Bee Informed. JOIN US and the HIVE MIND at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com Facebook behaviorbuzzzzzz Instagram @behaviorbuzzzzzz Thank you to our amazing sponsors: PRN Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile® Nestlé Purina PetCare, makers of Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets & Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Supplements Malena DeMartini, Inc. founder, Certified Separation Anxiety Training (CSAT) & Mission POSSIBLE Ceva Animal Health, makers of ThunderEase® & FELIWAY® products Amy L. Pike, DVM, DACVB, IAABC-CDBC - Co-Host Amy Learn, VMD, DACVB, IAABC-CABC - Co-Host Teryn Blais, Executive Producer John LaSala, Podcast Editor
Oct 8, 2023 · 45 min
It's ALL YOUR FAULT (just kidding, it isn't)
Join the Amys and their fabulous guest, Kiki Yablon, MA, KPA CTP, KPA Faculty, CPDT-KA, and Owner of Kiki Yablon Dog Training, for a deep dive into factors contributing to behavior. They discuss the impact of genetics, learning history, and current conditions. How does one define environment? What's really to blame for behavior problems? Kiki shares her perspective on controversial topics including the appropriateness of rehoming pets with behavior problems, and if regulating the dog training industry will "fix" all of its problems. Does DNA predict behavior? Should Kiki run for President? Get up to speed on the latest buzzzzzz during episode 3 of the Behavior Buzzzzzz with 2 Amys veterinary behavior podcast. Resources: Visit The Honey Pot at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com for episode references and more information about our very special guest, Kiki Yablon. Thanks, Kiki! Queen Bee’s Knees - 10th Ward Distilling Company This episode is sponsored by PRN® Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile®. Thank you, PRN! Bee Positive. Bee Informed. JOIN US and the HIVE MIND at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com Facebook behaviorbuzzzzzz Instagram @behaviorbuzzzzzz Thank you to our amazing sponsors: PRN Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile® Nestlé Purina PetCare, makers of Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets & Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Supplements Malena DeMartini, Inc. founder, Certified Separation Anxiety Training (CSAT) & Mission POSSIBLE Ceva Animal Health, makers of ThunderEase® & FELIWAY® products Amy L. Pike, DVM, DACVB, IAABC-CDBC - Co-Host Amy Learn, VMD, DACVB, IAABC-CABC - Co-Host Teryn Blais, Executive Producer John LaSala, Podcast Editor
Sep 24, 2023 · 24 min
Zom "Bee" Apocalypse
The Amys discuss the use of psychotropic medications and products in our pets. AND disclose if any of their patients have transformed into ZOMBIES! The Amys answer all of your most frequently asked questions about behavior medications and products. They make sense of common misconceptions, and explain how the use of behavior medications can help facilitate learning and improve overall wellness. The Amys discuss efficacy, side effects, behavior modification, and MORE! This episode is sponsored by PRN® Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile®. Thank you, PRN! Bee Positive. Bee Informed. JOIN US and the HIVE MIND at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com Facebook behaviorbuzzzzzz Instagram @behaviorbuzzzzzz Thank you to our amazing sponsors: PRN Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile® Nestlé Purina PetCare, makers of Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets & Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Supplements Malena DeMartini, Inc. founder, Certified Separation Anxiety Training (CSAT) & Mission POSSIBLE Ceva Animal Health, makers of ThunderEase® & FELIWAY® products Amy L. Pike, DVM, DACVB, IAABC-CDBC - Co-Host Amy Learn, VMD, DACVB, IAABC-CABC - Co-Host Teryn Blais, Executive Producer John LaSala, Podcast Editor
Sep 10, 2023 · 20 min
The Secret Lives of Veterinary Behaviorists - Cold Callin'
The Amys introduce you to the secret world of veterinary behavior, and reveal a bit about their personal lives. Did you know there are fewer than 100 board-certified veterinary behaviorists in the whole world? Get to know the Amys and hear about their most interesting cases, how they became veterinary behaviorists, and what it's like to work in a veterinary behavior clinic. The American College of Veterinary Behaviorists (ACVB) is the certifying board for veterinarians who are specialty trained to advance the behavioral health of animals through research, science-based behavior education, and the practice of clinical behavioral medicine. Learn more and search for a veterinary behaviorist near you at dacvb.org. Join us for cocktails and conversations during the PREMIERE episode of Behavior Buzzzzzz! Bee Positive. Bee Informed. JOIN US and the HIVE MIND at behaviorbuzzzzzz.com Facebook behaviorbuzzzzzz Instagram @behaviorbuzzzzzz Thank you to our amazing sponsors: PRN Pharmacal, makers of Reconcile® Nestlé Purina PetCare, makers of Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Diets & Purina Pro Plan® Veterinary Supplements Malena DeMartini, Inc. founder, Certified Separation Anxiety Training (CSAT) & Mission POSSIBLE Ceva Animal Health, makers of ThunderEase® & FELIWAY® products Amy L. Pike, DVM, DACVB, IAABC-CDBC - Co-Host Amy Learn, VMD, DACVB, IAABC-CABC - Co-Host Teryn Blais, Executive Producer John LaSala, Podcast Editor