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Be There in Five

Kate Kennedy

Be There in Five is a pop culture and millennial zeitgeist-focused podcast by Kate Kennedy (entrepreneur, author, pop culture commentator). Long-form and solo hosted, Be There in Five explores different facets of popular culture in a comedic, thoughtful, and analytical way, covering entertainment, social media, bloggers/influencers, and celebrities, in addition to focusing on the humor found in reexamining the 90s/00s as an adult (from AIM to Zenon). As one listener described it, "come for the relatable humor and lighthearted topics, stay for the surprising levels of depth and thoughtfulness injected into them."

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S2 · E71
Sunday · 1 hr 29 min
Scallopocalypse
This week, Kate crashes out over an influencer's crash out about a friend allegedly copying her home, but it happens to be a home that looks like so many others online, it's basically the Instagram Face of fancy homes. Kate goes through the series slide by slide, and discusses adjacent topics, like "stop copying me" being girlhood's first legal argument, the time her own wedding website got copied word for word, and the difference between a scullery and a butler's pantry, which she learned against her will. Then it spirals into the bigger thing she couldn't let go of: why influencer homes went from farmhouse to organic modern to old-world European right as everything got too shoppable, how the tastemakers who popularized those looks are now fleeing them upmarket, Kyle Chayka's AirSpace and why every "unique" house converges into sameness in the name of individuality, a Fashion Ambitionist throwback, a bar cart eulogy (the memories fade, the bitters last forever), and a meditation on scallops nobody asked for. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Transform your space with pieces that hold up to real life. Join Wayfair Rewards today and get five percent back on every purchase. Head to wayfair.com or shop the Wayfair app for all things home. That's wayfair.com. Instead of striving for perfect health, support your foundational health. Save 25% on your first month at Ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. That's Ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off your first month. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for up to 20% off home and sleepwear. That's code BETHEREINFIVE for up to 20% off on home and sleepwear! And if you see a post-purchase survey, please be sure to mention that you heard about Cozy Earth right here! Right now, you can save up to $230 on the 12 piece cookware set vs buying the products individually. And you can find even more set savings when you shop Caraway's full Kitchenware collection. Visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF10 to take an additional 10% off your next purchase.This deal is exclusive for our listeners, so visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF10 or use code BTIF10 at checkout. Find the fall pieces you'll reach for most at Quince. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to quince.com/bethereinfive. Get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada and the UK, too. That's quince.com/bethereinfive.
S2 · E70
September 6 · 1 hr 27 min
Drops of Jupiter (with Nora)
This week, Nora McInerny joins Kate for a witchy birthday-week episode that escalates from lyric trivia and vintage Girl Talk into a full unlicensed spiritual review via tarot, numerology, astrocartography, and a 1982 birthday book, as read by two women who believe in nothing and also everything as long as it works in their favor. They investigate whether it's illegal to talk to dolphins, unpack the broken-smile industrial complex of 2000s love songs, mourn the lost art of the local commercial, and make the case that your ancestors are not, in fact, thinking about you. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! You're going to love Hungryroot as much as I do. For a limited time get 40% off your first order PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. That's Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive, code bethereinfive to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. Go to LagoonSleep.com/bethereinfive and take the 60-second sleep quiz to find your match. Use code BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first order, and every pillow comes with a 100-night trial. Make the switch to Sundays. Go right now to sundaysfordogs.com/bethereinfive and get 50% off your first order. Or, you can use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 50% off your first order at sundaysfordogs.com/bethereinfive. Cozy Earth's Labor Day Sale is happening now through September 8th. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 30% off. That's code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 30% off, the biggest savings of the season. And if you see a post-purchase survey, mention that you heard about Cozy Earth right here!
S2 · E69
August 28 · 1 hr 9 min
GOODBYE EARL TUPPER
This week, Kate is back from the book-deadline trenches with a mini dive inspired by the many fellow Beths who misread Brenda Song's new NFL gig as "color analyst." What follows is a journey through a brief history of "having your colors done" and why we can't resist things that offer to help us explain ourselves to ourselves. Also covers Taylor Swift's Grammy Museum interview, some theories on Harry and Meghan's big move, and an elder-millennial's defense of KATSEYE. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! If you're looking to make a small change in your routine, you can get 15% off your first order at Blueland.com/BETHEREINFIVE. That's 15% off your first order at Blueland.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Oversized, ultra-plush, and completely built for your best summer days. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 20% off. That's code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, mention that you heard about Cozy Earth right here! Right now, you can save up to $230 on the 12 piece cookware set vs buying the products individually. And you can find even more set savings when you shop Caraway's full Kitchenware collection. Plus For a limited time, every dollar you spend on clean kitchenware gets you closer to your dream kitchen— or $100,000 cash! Visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF10 to take an additional 10% off your next purchase.This deal is exclusive for our listeners, so visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF10 or use code BTIF10 at checkout. Go to LagoonSleep.com/bethereinfive and take the 60-second sleep quiz to find your match. Use code BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first order, and every pillow comes with a 100-night trial. You're going to love Hungryroot as much as I do. For a limited time get 40% off your first order PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. That's Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive, code bethereinfive to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life.
S2 · E68
August 16 · 1 hr 47 min
The Bore Ultimatum (feat. Nora and Caroline)
This week (for ep 2), Kate is joined by friends of the pod, Nora McInerny and Caroline Moss, for a group hang that begins with scorpions in Nora's laundry and only escalates from there. The three of them get into the perils of too many fourth-wall breaks on House of Stassi and the collective decline of reality TV, then Kate debuts a best friend game where everyone gets assigned a day of the week and a breakfast cereal, and unveils her own Catholic corner featuring Saint Magnus, certified babe. Also on the docket: the Berenstain Bears, Jen Hamilton and "meemaw," Nora's domestic era, a live experiment in surveillance capitalism involving the price of Spam, and a genuinely terrible game involving removing a letter from movie titles. Go to Nora's feed for "It's Going to Be Ok" for more, enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Right now, you can save up to $230 on the 12 piece cookware set vs buying the products individually. And you can find even more set savings when you shop Caraway's full Kitchenware collection. Plus For a limited time, every dollar you spend on clean kitchenware gets you closer to your dream kitchen— or $100,000 cash! Visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF10 to take an additional 10% off your next purchase or use code BTIF10 at checkout. Give your skin the affordable, luxurious glow up it deserves. Go to Naturium.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 10% off your first purchase today. That's Naturium.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Join Wayfair Rewards today to get 5% back on every purchase and start saving on your next home upgrade. Head to wayfair.com to shop all things home. That's wayfair.com. Wayfair. Every Style. Every Home. Go to helixsleep.com/BETHEREINFIVE for the Labor Day: Best of Web sale for 27% off sitewide August 14 - September 13, exclusive for listeners of Be There in Five. That's helixsleep.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 27% off sitewide August 14 - September 13. Make sure you enter our show name after checkout, so they know we sent you!
S2 · E67
August 10 · 1 hr 44 min
Coaches Coaching Brooches
This week, Kate asks an important question for the sake of equality in the workplace: can a woman carry two bags and be taken seriously? Can her bracelets clank? Jury's out, and she felt inspired to take on the genre of body language coaching and weird advice people give women about how to behave. Then, she opens the floor to the Beths, who deliver a cornucopia of workplace advice: lower your register, fix your vocal fry, no jingly earrings, no hair tie on your wrist, no mouse in the meeting, etc. Kate also revisits the letter grade she lost in college for bending over to plug in her laptop, unpacks why "taken seriously" is such a weird passive phrase, and makes the case that this is somehow worse in 2026 than it was in 2008, among other things. Enjoy! Lagoon Sleep — Go to LagoonSleep.com/bethereinfive and take the 60-second sleep quiz to find your match. Use code BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first order, and every pillow comes with a 100-night trial. Hungryroot — You're going to love Hungryroot as much as I do. For a limited time, get 40% off your first order PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. Cozy Earth — Oversized, ultra-plush, and completely built for your best summer days. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, mention that you heard about Cozy Earth right here! Sundays for Dogs — Make the switch to Sundays. Go right now to sundaysfordogs.com/BETHEREINFIVE and get 50% off your first order. Or use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Quince — Upgrade your everyday. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to quince.com/bethereinfive. Get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada and the UK, too.
S2 · E66
July 20 · 1 hr 37 min
WE NEVER STOOD A CHANCE (Parenting Edition)
This week, the air quality is apocalyptic, parents everywhere are staring down the summer childcare cliff, and Kate is feeling pro-tantrum.. What starts as a meditation on the summers of yore turns into one on modern parenting and why we never stood a chance. Through a mix of personal stories and listener submissions, this episode gets into the Nature Valley bars of motherhood (things that are structurally designed to crumble no matter what you do), and Kate unpacks why the U.S. treats raising the next generation of taxpayers as a private, elective hobby, and why calling motherhood "natural" is the exact trick that lets everyone avoid paying for it, among other things. If you've ever felt like you're losing your mind trying to balance the demands of work and modern society with the realities of parenting, you aren't crazy. Take a deep breath (indoors), and let's vent. Enjoy! Want to help build a follow-up about how we can stand a chance? Send your childcare life hacks, workarounds, and unconventional setups to podcast@bethereinfive.com, text 775-HEY-BETH or leave a voicemail. Sponsors: Sundays for Dogs: Get 50% off your first order of air-dried, high-quality dog food at sundaysfordogs.com/bethereinfive or use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Helix Sleep: Get 27% off sitewide (July 13 – August 2) at helixsleep.com. Enter our show name after checkout so they know we sent you. Blueland: Cut down on single-use plastics with cleaning tablets. Get 15% off your first order at blueland.com/bethereinfive Hungryroot: Get 40% off your first order plus a free item in every box for life at hungryroot.com/bethereinfive code BETHEREINFIVE Cozy Earth: Upgrade your summer sleep (and beach towels) with viscose from bamboo. Head to cozyearth.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE for 20% off.
S2 · E65
July 2 · 1 hr 35 min
Cannes Debrief, MSG, and Celebs Making Out at the Heath (with Sami Sage)
This week, Kate briefly debriefs her week at Cannes Lions during a record-breaking heat wave, including how she accidentally hired a private French bodyguard in an armored Maybach, sweat off her spray tan across the Côte d'Azur, and what it's like to be at Coachella for vague marketing babes without AC when your brain is so fried you give the AC repairman the wrong room number and it stays broken. Then Sami Sage (co-founder of Betches, host of the Morning Announcements) joins for a catch-up covering the lead up to Taylor and Travis's MSG wedding, Joe Alwyn and Sarah Pidgeon making out at Hampstead Heath, being hot as an internet career skill, canopy beds as class warfare, rare 90s aesthetics, whether Alex Mack was the original Inside Out, past lives, the word incontrovertible, and why Sami doesn't believe in snowboarding. Enjoy! Make your summer wardrobe feel easier. Go to quince.com/bethereinfive for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. You're going to love Hungryroot as much as I do. For a limited time get 40% off your first order PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. Right now, you can save up to $230 on the 12 piece cookware set vs buying the products individually. And you can find even more set savings when you shop Caraway's full Kitchenware collection. Visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF10 to take an additional 10% off your next purchase. Made from viscose from bamboo — breathable, soft, and built for summer. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, mention that you heard about Cozy Earth right here!
S2 · E64
June 21 · 1 hr 41 min
It's Like Our Sleepover (with Anna Konkle)
This week, Kate chats with PEN15 co-creator Anna Konkle for a conversation that's equal parts silly and heavy, like the last two people awake at a sleepover asking about the meaning of life and swapping stories of their first thong. They discuss Anna's new memoir, The Sane One, and how it explores a different kind of nostalgia than her previous work, touching on topics like the grief, estrangement, and reconciliation that anchor the book, hand-slapping games like Miss Mary Mack, the kind of love for your child that's so pure it almost scares you, and what it was like to be chosen as a Filene's Basement model. Along the way, they dive into the surprising relationship between the academia of clowning and playing a 13-year-old in PEN15, reminisce about AIM, Disney Channel free previews, sleepover paranormal rituals, and spiral about gentle parenting and the importance of boredom. It's a conversation about memories, motherhood, creativity, and all the tiny emotional truths that never quite leave us, with detours more random than Kate Bosworth showing up at your local Relay for Life. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 20% off. That's code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, mention that you heard about Cozy Earth right here! Say YES to unforgettable moments with Liquid I.V.'s NEW Hydration Multiplier Sugar-Free Ring Pop. Tear. Pour. Live More. Go to LIQUID-IV.COM and get 20% off your first purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Go to helixsleep.com/bethereinfive for their Fourth of July Sale for 20% off Sitewide. Make sure you enter our show name after checkout, so they know we sent you! Right now, you can save up to $230 on the 12 piece cookware set vs buying the products individually. If you spend over $495 you will receive a Butcherbox for FREE. Plus if you spend over $795 you can also get a FREE cast iron grill pan! Visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF10 to take an additional 10% off your next purchase.
S2 · E63
June 11 · 1 hr 8 min
Madison Square Jargon
This week, Kate meanders through "I Knew It, I Knew You" and the Toy Story 5 premiere, why she's changed her tune on the rumored Madison Square Garden wedding venue, and goes on various passionate detours about golf, a dramatic reading of Luke Bryan's "Fish Hunt Golf Drink," and digs through a moldy pouch of 2019 Post-it topics that yields takes on Ariel Charnas, Caroline Calloway, City High, Yikes pencils, and middle school cool-girl names. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and her new rug here! For the dads, stepdads, grandpas, and every father figure who shows up — this one's for them. Cozy Earth's Bamboo Sheet Set, Everywhere Pant, and Everyday Polo are designed to keep him cool, comfortable, and actually relaxed all summer long. Dad lives here. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, mention that you heard about Cozy Earth right here!" Give your skin the affordable, luxurious glow up it deserves. Go to Naturium.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 10% off your first purchase today. Elevate your summer wardrobe. Go to Quince.com/bethereinfive for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too.
S2 · E62
May 31 · 1 hr 19 min
Be Good, Not Well
This week, it's just Kate, an Aperol Spritz, and the tech bro quote about wine that accidentally kicked off the conversation we've all been needing about optimization culture and being tired of treating every part of life like a performance review. Plus, a round of News You Can Use about why fruit hasn't been sweet since 1996, this season's hottest mnemonic devices, the babydoll dress of it all, and reviewing what Olivia Rodrigo is doing differently in Drop Dead and The Cure, all of it strangely circling back to living in a world that quantifies us without letting the number become the whole story. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and her new rug here! As an exclusive offer, new listeners can get their choice between free Sirloin Tips, Ground Beef or Chicken Wings in every box for LIFE, PLUS $20 off when you go to ButcherBox.com/bethereinfive. That's right - your choice of free Sirloin Tips, Ground Beef or Chicken Wings in every box for LIFE, PLUS $20 off your first box, and free shipping always. That's ButcherBox.com/bethereinfive. Don't forget to use our link so they know we sent you. Say YES to unforgettable moments with Liquid I.V.'s NEW Hydration Multiplier Sugar-Free Ring Pop. Tear. Pour. Live More. Go to LIQUID-IV.COM and get 20% off your first purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Refresh your everyday with luxury you'll actually use. Head to Quince.com/bethereinfive for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That's Quince.com/bethereinfive for free shipping and 365-day returns. Right now you can save up to $230 on the 12-piece cookware set versus buying the products individually. Plus, if you want to include their fan favorite minis duo, you can save up to $350. Visit CarawayHome.com/BTIF10 to take an additional 10% off using code BTIF10 on your next purchase. This deal is exclusive for our listeners, so visit carawayhome.com/BTIF 10 or use code BTIF10 at checkout.
S2 · E61
May 14 · 1 hr 36 min
False Paternity, 14 Felonies, and a Former Bachelor: Stephani Young on Love Trapped
This week, Kate sits down with Stephani Young, the journalist (and longtime Beth!) behind the viral investigative podcast Love Trapped, the year-plus deep dive into the Clayton Echard paternity scandal that turned out to be so much bigger than a Bachelor Nation headline. Kate opens with why a story like this is so culturally tricky to talk about and the tension between believing women and recognizing when the systems built to protect them get weaponized. Then Kate and Stephani get into how the story spans not just Clayton but a years-long pattern involving multiple men that ultimately led to 14 felony indictments. They also discuss Stephani's editorial process, in terms of building the series in parallel with how internet sleuths discovered it in real-time, what got cut, what landed her in legal review, and the moment she became part of the story when Laura's emails started arriving in her inbox too. Listen to Love Trapped first (truly, do not proceed without it), then come back. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and her new rug here! Give your skin the affordable, luxurious glow up it deserves. Go to Naturium.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 10% off the Glow Getter Bundle today. That's Naturium.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Go to helixsleep.com/bethereinfive for the Memorial Day Sale. It's the Best of Web Sale, May 1-31, 2026 for 27% Off Sitewide. Exclusive for listeners of Be There in Five. For a limited time get 40% off your first order PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, mention that you heard about Cozy Earth right here on Be There in Five.
S2 · E60
May 8 · 2 hr 5 min
1998 (feat. Caroline Moss)
This week, Kate is joined by Caroline Moss for an episode that was supposed to be about modern pop culture and somehow turned into mostly topics from 1998. They get into the longevity industrial complex and Kate's pitch for an old-age commune, the unhinged Duggar honeymoon prep CD, Lydia and Zach's definition of "naughty," and a Full House deep dive featuring Stephanie's catering arc and Hot Daddy and the Monkey Puppets. Caroline also tells a crazy true story of her fifth grade graduation, where a major celeb showed up in leather pants and every parent in town gaslit their children about it for twenty years. Plus: a potato chip flavor power ranking, the difference between fashion that works in a mirror shot versus in real life, Caroline's full Summer House theory, and more! Enjoy. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Right now, you can save up to $230 on the 12 piece cookware set vs buying the products individually. Plus if you want to include their fan favorite minis duo, you can save up to $350! Visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF10 to take an additional 10% off using code BTIF10 on your next purchase.This deal is exclusive for our listeners, so visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF10 or use code BTIF10 at checkout. Refresh your everyday with luxury you'll actually use. Head to Quince.com/bethereinfive for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That's Quince.com/bethereinfive for free shipping and 365-day returns. Instead of striving for perfect health, aim for supporting foundational health. Save 25% on your first month at Ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. That's Ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off your first month. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, mention that you heard about Cozy Earth right here on Be There in Five. Comfort lives here. Join the membership for where you live at JOINBILT.com/bethereinfive. Make sure to use our URL so they know we sent you.
S2 · E59
April 26 · 1 hr 8 min
DZ: Discovery Zone (BTI5 Live Practice)
This week, Kate is trying something new by returning to her old form. After taking time off and noticing her comment section brain rot, she's trying to get back to occasional one-pass, no-edits, no-looking-things-up format to practice for a live format of the show coming soon. It's the kind of episode where Reneesme, Billie Eilish, Five Below, and the Epstein files all somehow end up in the same conversation and it almost tracks. Also, some musing about the discomfort of realizing the millennial girlhood pipeline of Limited Too to Abercrombie to Victoria's Secret was built and run by men who turned out to be predators, and the connection between frat bro philanthropy shirts and A&F. Plus, everything's coming up Kate following a streak of good luck that she thinks might have something to do with a haunted candle. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and her new rug here! As an exclusive offer, new listeners can get their choice between chicken breast or top sirloin for a year OR ground beef for life, PLUS $20 off when you go to ButcherBox.com/BETHEREINFIVE. That's right - your choice of chicken breast or top sirloin for a year OR ground beef for life, PLUS $20 off your first box, and free shipping always. That's ButcherBox.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Don't forget to use our link so they know we sent you. Go to helixsleep.com/bethereinfive for their Spring Savings Event April 20-29, 2026 for 20% Off Sitewide. That's helixsleep.com/bethereinfive for 20% Off Sitewide. Soak up unforgettable memories with on-the-go hydration from Liquid I.V. Tear. Pour. Live More. Go to LIQUID-IV.COM and get 20% off your first purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Let this Mother's Day be a reminder that she deserves care, too — discover how Cozy Earth turns everyday routines into moments of softness and ease. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 20% off, and if you see a post-purchase survey, be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here on Be There in Five. Because home starts with Mom You're going to love Hungryroot as much as I do. For a limited time get 40% off your first order PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. That's Hungryroot.com/bethereinfivee, code bethereinfive to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life.
S2 · E58
April 9 · 2 hr 7 min
Yesteryear with Caro Claire Burke | Trad Wives, Secret Lives & Twist Ending (Spoilers)
This week, Kate sits down with Caro Claire Burke, author of the hit debut novel Yesteryear, the trad wife time travel thriller that triggered a publishing bidding war, has already been optioned by Anne Hathaway, and is Good Morning America's April book club pick. They discuss a variety of topics within the book (with spoilers, FYI), including how you write an unreliable narrator whose worldview fundamentally opposes your own, the layers of performance that start with God and end with the algorithm, why Natalie is deserving of sympathy as both a victim and a bad person, the Ballerina Farm and Ruby Franke parallels, Caleb as a vacant vessel, why the twist ending had Kate pacing at 2 AM rethinking her life choices, and how the epilogue reframes everything. They also detour into Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and the Taylor Frankie Paul of it all, plus sleepover discourse against Caro's will, how they both relate to Natalie's experience with being publicly perceived, and Caro's experience selling the book and film rights before the book was even finished. Spoilers throughout. Enjoy! **Watch on Spotify. Spotify Premium users get no commercial breaks on my show!** Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! TIMESTAMPS (SPOILERS BELOW): 0:00 Intro, Kate's reaction to Yesteryear 17:30 Interview begins, creating Natalie's voice, writing an unlikable unreliable narrator 22:00 Layers of performance: God, family, social media, the surveillance of being watched your whole life 35:00 Ballerina Farm, Ruby Franke, who Natalie is based on, how much influence trad wives actually have 47:30 Caleb and the manosphere, the breeding contract, selling a trad wife novel when everyone thought Kamala was going to win 55:00 The liberal feminist case for the trad wife, the failure of lean-in feminism, women sharing survival tips 1:01:00 The ending explained: the twist, the psychosis, what's real, and the epilogue 1:21:00 The meta conversation: parasocial relationships, being a public person, deification to dehumanization 1:28:00 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: Taylor Frankie Paul, justice for Whitney, Connor vs. Zach 1:58:00 Anne Hathaway, how book-to-movie deals actually work, and what Caro wants readers to walk away with This Mother's Day, give the gift that shows up every single night. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVEBOGO for an exclusive Buy One, Give One offer running from April 12th to April 18th on sheet sets and if you get a post-purchase survey, mention you heard about Cozy Earth here. For the person who makes everywhere feel like home. For a limited time get 40% off your first order PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. That's Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive, code bethereinfive to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. Refresh your spring wardrobe with Quince. Go to Quince.com/bethereinfive for free shipping and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. Go to Quince.com/bethereinfive for free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince.com/bethereinfive. Instead of striving for perfect health, aim for supporting foundational health. Save 25% on your first month at Ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. That's Ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off your first month. Way Day is THE sale to shop the best deals in home – we're talking up to 80% OFF with fast and FREE shipping on everything! Head to Wayfair.com April 25th through the 27th to shop Way Day. That' Wayfair.com. Wayfair. Every style. Every home. KEYWORDS: Yesteryear, Caro Claire Burke, Yesteryear book review, Yesteryear ending explained, Yesteryear spoilers, trad wife novel, Yesteryear book club discussion, ballerina farm, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Anne Hathaway Yesteryear movie, Diabolical Lies podcast, trad wife discourse, BookTok, GMA book club April
S2 · E57
March 20 · 1 hr 59 min
The Taylor Frankie Paul of It All
This week, Kate is breaking her hiatus for a special report recorded before Thursday's news that ABC was scrapping TFP's season of The Bachelorette. Ultimately, she decided this episode was still a relevant conversation to have, given that she and her guest (Sam Dalton, LCSW @sam.the.therapistt) talked through the systems and cycles that made this week's fallout unsurprising long before the video leaked. Together, they unpack the rose colored glass ceiling of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, where women perform rebellion without ever actually leaving the structures that constrain them. They discuss how ABC and Hulu built a cross-platform content pipeline on top of a woman's unresolved trauma, why the show's premise was always rooted in Taylor's reactivity, the pattern of Dakota's strategic sabotage, what it means when healing requires the opposite of what reality TV rewards, and the uncomfortable question of why so many of us, Kate included, glossed over a 2023 aggravated assault charge that was packaged as the starting point of a redemption arc. Content note: this episode discusses domestic violence, child abuse allegations, and toxic relationship dynamics. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Stay hydrated with on-the-go hydration from Liquid I.V. Tear. Pour. Live More. Go to LIQUID-IV.COM and get 20% off your first purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Discover how care in every detail transforms simple routines into moments of true comfort and ease. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for up to 20% off. And if you get a Post-Purchase Survey, be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here! Experience the craft behind the comfort, and make every day feel intentional. Join the loyalty program for renters at joinbilt.com/bethereinfive. Make sure to use our URL so they know we sent you. Go to helixsleep.com/bethereinfive for the March Madness Sale, 20% off sitewide through March 26. Make sure you enter our show name after checkout so they know we sent you! Caraway's cookware set is a favorite for a reason, it can save you up to $230 versus buying the items individually. Plus, if you visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF you can take an additional 10% off your next purchase.This deal is exclusive for our listeners. Caraway. Non-Toxic kitchenware made modern.
S2 · E56
March 8 · 1 hr 31 min
Taylor Swift Lyrics that Scratch Your Brain (Reprise)
This week, Kate attempts to revive (but then mostly records a new version of) a fan-favorite Patreon from 2021 about the way Taylor Swift pronounces words. We're talking plosives, brain-scratching vowels, and why certain words sung a certain way make you want to listen again, but with updated takes from Midnights to TTPD to Showgirl. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Caraway's cookware set is a favorite for a reason, it can save you up to $230 versus buying the items individually. Plus, if you visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF you can take an additional 10% off your next purchase.This deal is exclusive for our listeners, so visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF or use code BTIF at checkout. Caraway. Non-Toxic kitchenware made modern. Discover how care in every detail transforms simple routines into moments of true comfort and ease. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for up to 20% off. And if you get a Post-Purchase Survey, be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here! Experience the craft behind the comfort, and make every day feel intentional. You're going to love Hungryroot as much as I do. For a limited time get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. That's Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive, code bethereinfive to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. Right now, go to Quince.com/bethereinfive for free shipping and 365-day returns. That's a full year to wear it and love it. And you will. Now available in Canada, too. Don't keep settling for clothes that don't last. Go to Quince.com/bethereinfive for free shipping and 365-day returns. Instead of striving for perfect health, aim for supporting foundational health. Save 25% on your first month at Ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. That's Ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off your first month. Find furniture, decor, and essentials that fit your unique style and budget. Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home. That's Wayfair.com. Wayfair. Every style. Every home.
S2 · E55
February 22 · 1 hr 58 min
Mama's Back at the Lake (Director's Cut feat. Caroline Moss)
This week, Kate and Caroline Moss revisit the beloved Mama Slay at the Lake episode with a director's cut of our delirious 6 AM conversation about irreverent merch, warm beans, Facebook walls, Maxine culture, and Steve Madden platform loafers, followed by a brand new conversation where we get into pun drift, Disney adults in matching shirts, the grievance merch pipeline, Kate's Hamilton/American Girl mashup, and why lake town signs are the truest window into the suppressed psyche of second home motherhood. JFK Jr. and CBK content will be up later today on Patreon! Enjoy. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Join the loyalty program for renters at joinbilt.com/bethereinfive - Make sure to use our URL so they know we sent you. Caraway's cookware set is a favorite for a reason, it can save you up to $190 versus buying the items individually. Plus, if you visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF you can take an additional 10% off your next purchase.This deal is exclusive for our listeners, so visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF or use code BTIF at checkout. Caraway. Non-Toxic kitchenware made modern. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for up to 20% off. And if you get a Post-Purchase Survey, be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here! Celebrate everyday love with comfort that makes the little moments count. Go to helixsleep.com/bethereinfive for the President's Day Sale, Feb 2 - 25, which is 27% off sitewide, exclusive for listeners of Be There in Five. Make sure you enter our show name after checkout so they know we sent you! For a limited time get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive, code bethereinfive to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. Tear. Pour. Live More. Go to LIQUID-IV.COM and get 20% off your first order with code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order with code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM.
S2 · E54
February 9 · 1 hr 52 min
Mother, Son, and the Aioli Spirit (Director's Cut)
This week, Kate revisits an infamous episode from March 2020 about dips, sauces, and dipping sauces. Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Right now, Betterwild is offering our listeners up to 40% off your order at Betterwild.com/BETHEREINFIVE. That's Betterwild.com/BETHEREINFIVE for up to 40% off your order. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for up to 20% off. And if you get a Post-Purchase Survey, be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here! Celebrate everyday love with comfort that makes the little moments count. For a limited time get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. Refresh your wardrobe with Quince. Go to Quince.com/bethereinfive for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. Instead of striving for perfect health, aim for supporting foundational health. Save 25% on your first month at Ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Get organized, refreshed, and back on track this new year for WAY less. Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home. Wayfair. Every style. Every home
S2 · E53
January 25 · 2 hr 24 min
Bath and Body Jerks, Wash Your Face (Director's Cut)
The culture that made the Beths say the Beth culture was for them. Mashup ep with 40+ min of new audio. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Whether it's a weekend away, a big night out, or just a much-needed wardrobe refresh – your dream wardrobe is just one click away. Head to REVOLVE.com/BETHEREINFIVE, shop my edit, and take 15% off your first order with code BETHEREINFIVE. Offer ends February 2nd, so happy shopping! Right now, Baked by Melissa is offering our listeners 20% off your order at Bakedbymelissa.com/BETHEREINFIVE. That's Bakedbymelissa.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 20% off your order. Join the loyalty program for renters at joinbilt.com/BETHEREINFIVE. That's joinbilt.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Make sure to use our URL so they know we sent you. This deal is exclusive for our listeners, so visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF or use code BTIF at checkout. Caraway. Non-Toxic kitchenware made modern. These viral pj's are so good they sold out during the holidays, and now they're back with an exclusive deal only available January 25th- February 8th. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVEBOGO to get these pj's for you and someone you love! Go to helixsleep.com/bethereinfive for The New Year Sale Final Hours, whish is 20% off sitewide. Make sure you enter our show name after checkout so they know we sent you! Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life.
S2 · E52
January 11 · 1 hr 54 min
Petty Little Liars (feat. Kelly) (From the Vault)
This week, Kate has an announcement that she shares at the beginning of the episode that will then explain the rest of the episode and why its title may sound familiar. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Right now, Betterwild is offering our listeners up to 40% off your order at betterwild.com/BETHEREINFIVE. That's betterwild.com/BETHEREINFIVE for up to 40% off your order. Start the New Year off right and give your home the luxury it deserves, and make home the best part of life. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for up to 20% off. And if you get a Post-Purchase Survey, be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here! You're going to love Hungryroot as much as I do. For a limited time get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. Rehydrate with better hydration from Liquid I.V. Tear. Pour. Live More. Go to LIQUID-IV.COM and get 20% off your first order with code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Refresh your wardrobe with Quince. Don't wait. Go to quince.com/bethereinfive for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. Instead of striving for perfect health, aim for supporting foundational health. For a limited time, save 40% on your first month at Ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE.

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