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A Mediocre Time with Tom and Dan (BDM Member Show) - Episode Notes Episode: "Hot Pig" Hosts: Tom Vann, Dan Dennis | Guest: Ross (third mic for most of the show) Sponsors / Ad Reads None. No sponsor segments in this episode. The hosts mention they're trying to work with Sanford International Airport and Hooters, but there are no ad reads. Segment Rundown Cold open: BDM Russ complaint. BDM Russ is still mocking the new tomanddan.com website because he wants the old clunky one back. The hosts say he never answered the rude reply he got, so his original email complaint stands. Cows and Cabs hangover. Both hosts are still hungover from Saturday's Cows and Cabs, a very upscale food and wine festival in Winter Park. They got in through a trade deal. They describe how absurd the amount of free food and booze from Orlando's high-end restaurants is. Eating light all day to save room backfired. A host says years of free food in green rooms have taken the thrill out of it, and Chris Crespo's monthly donut run gets a mention. Dunkin' sprinkle munchkins detour. A host waited about 30 minutes at a turnpike Dunkin' and walked out when he saw there were no sprinkle cake munchkins. Maisie got them for him later. Mixing drinks and blacking out. The hosts list the night's lineup: Dos Equis, Twisted Tea, two big Patron margaritas in pineapple cups, peanut butter tequila and Jameson. Dan blacked out in the Uber home, and Andrea had to tell him the next day how nice the driver was. He also binged Maisie's secret bag of Utz chips and left the kitchen looking like a frat house. "Beer before liquor" gets debated, along with a Willy Wonka bit about drinking the chocolate river. The resolution is light beer only from now on. BDMs spotted at the event included Busteker, Brendan O'Connor in a cowboy hat, Mike and Katrina, and the Jeff's Bagel Run crew. Cruise pianist rescue debate. A Royal Caribbean pianist was found by fishermen after about 20 hours treading water, 15 to 20 miles off California near Catalina Island. Tom floats the theory that the rescue would feel "less heroic" if the man went overboard on purpose. The others push back, and the group works through hypotheticals (mafia, drugs, an accident) that move the "hero score" up or down. Ross argues that someone who fought that hard to survive is likely to do more with his life. Tom's "hard stances" start getting counted. Cruise cameras and photo sales. The hosts agree cruise ships have cameras everywhere. Tom's wife was unsettled when ship photographers' pictures of her vanished from the atrium display after someone bought them. At Cows and Cabs, a cookie of their dog Dansby printed for Maisie got stolen, and they had to make another. They also criticize comedy club photo upsells: the Funny Bone camera's beautifying filter, pre-printed hard sells, the wasteful cardboard sleeves, and framed cruise photos at home being "trashy." Looking like your spouse. The hosts discuss long-married couples starting to look like siblings. Tom's comments on the topic add to his running list of hard stances. All-gender bathrooms and RunPee. Tom complains about unisex bathrooms. Others point out Europe, Fest porta-potties and newer restaurants that use single-stall rooms. Crystal used RunPee.com to time a movie bathroom break, found the women's room closed, and lost about five minutes because Tom told her someone was in the men's room. Food hall bathroom mystery. A host couldn't figure out how to open either restroom door at a food hall. His wife then watched an apparent employee and a disheveled woman leave the same restroom one after the other. This leads to a short tangent about public restrooms and spouses who will never go along with that idea. Ross's casino tour. Ross describes the huge Guitar Hotel at Seminole Hard Rock Hollywood, which has a long mall walk and tight odds, and Calder Casino, a non-Seminole casino tied to the Churchill Downs owners. His new favorite is a small Seminole casino and hotel at Brighton on Lake Okeechobee that opened in 2025. It has $5 craps tables, rooms around $200 (versus $600 in Tampa or $1,000 in Miami), historic Seminole photos and art, wood-fire steaks, and Larry the Cable Guy coming soon. Lake Okeechobee deep dive. The drive along the lake shows nothing but a roughly 50-foot levee. Other points covered: the cross-state canal route by boat, the lake's average depth of about 9 feet, a reported 6,500-acre brush fire inside the lake bounds last year, and the name meaning "big water." The hosts agree it's a part of Florida most people skip. Lauderdale-by-the-Sea. Ross got stuck in South Florida after gambling in Miami and found Lauderdale-by-the-Sea. He praises an Italian bakery's donut, the 1924 founding story on a pier plaque, and how quiet the town stays even at spring break. The hosts list other Florida spots they'd like to explore: the Panhandle, Northeast Florida, springs and Cocoa. Tom's boat and canoe. Tom's boat motor is close to dying, and the canoe he bought barely gets used. His boys would rather walk to a dock and fish, and he has taken them fishing daily for nearly a week. They joke that he's "King Loader" with kids who won't load. Hard Rock comps. Ross is at Hard Rock's top tier. Perks so far: a stand mixer, a free bottle of booze every Wednesday in November (his "casino bar"), $55 in free play every other day, and an offer to fly him from Sanford International to Atlantic City this weekend. The hosts call him "Craig Jr." A host once won a cruise on a cruise by playing video poker. Everyone praises the Sanford airport. Voicemail: expired lotto tickets? A listener asks whether the lotto tickets in the Friday Free Show gift bag will be expired. The hosts jokingly defend Dan and "the dance." Voicemail: Three Musketeers history. Zach from Ohio explains that Three Musketeers started as three bars: chocolate, vanilla and strawberry. Mars launched it in 1932 and dropped the extra flavors during WWII sugar rationing. This leads to Tom's dad's love of Neapolitan ice cream and their fights over scooping out only the strawberry, Milky Way versus Three Musketeers, and a Combos debate (pretzel vs. cracker, the salsa flavor). One host suggests sourdough pretzels with a hunk of cheddar instead. Tom Vann fun fact: Dock of the Bay. The whistling in "(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay" was a placeholder for lyrics. Otis Redding died in a plane crash on December 10, 1967, at age 26. Steve Cropper finished the track and added the seagulls and waves Redding had wanted. Does dying young make a legacy? The hosts debate whether artists who die young become more iconic. Examples: Sublime's Bradley Nowell, Kurt Cobain, early Kanye, and Tupac and Biggie hypotheticals. Ozzy is the counterexample: a full life lived in public, a reality show that made him look foolish, and a rediscovered solo catalog after the Halloween Horror Nights house. They also cover Rent, staged without its creator's rewrites, and A Confederacy of Dunces, the posthumous novel that Will Ferrell was once attached to adapt. Voicemail: anime rec from BDM Mike. Mike recommends a Netflix sci-fi Western anime for Tom's sons (he spelled it "Bass Machina"). Someone notes there were no Black cowboys, or Black attendees at all, at Cows and Cabs. Tom says his sons should be the ones recommending anime. He complains about the trend of long sentence-style titles and plots where gamers get trapped in the game. Garage door rods vs. AI. Ross catches Tom cherry-picking AI advice. Tom's wife asked AI and was told that storing fishing rods on the garage door is a bad idea. She worries the motor is struggling and now uses the front door. Tom insists the weight is negligible and compares it to the difference between .05 and .06 BAC. Others suggest an elephant-foot umbrella stand instead. The transcript has a glitch and gap here. The Edgar haircut. A voice explains where the term "Edgar" comes from and describes the cut: blunt front, mullet back. The hosts suggest Tom get a dyed Edgar. Tom denies dyeing his hair, says he could never keep plastic surgery secret, and talks about Rogaine and the "pink tax." Aging and the "Hot Pig" close. The hosts talk about confusing normal aging (receding hairlines, random soreness, forgetting why you walked into a room) with illness, and about slower recovery. This loops back to the Cows and Cabs blackout. Dan explains he overheated and slept naked in front of a fan like a "hot pig," which is where the episode title comes from. The show ends with a handoff to the OG recap. Key Dates / Plugs Mentioned December 10, 1967: Otis Redding's fatal plane crash (fun fact segment). 1924: Founding of Lauderdale-by-the-Sea, per the pier plaque. 2025: The new Seminole casino and hotel at Brighton on Lake Okeechobee opened. Last year: The roughly 6,500-acre brush fire inside Lake Okeechobee's bounds. Two weekends ago: Ross's night at the Brighton casino, then on to Miami. Saturday: Cows and Cabs food and wine festival, Winter Park. This past weekend: Ross gambling in Miami and staying in Lauderdale-by-the-Sea. Every Wednesday in November: Hard Rock bottle-of-booze comp for Ross. November 11 to 14: Hard Rock's comped trip offer from Sanford International to Atlantic City. Coming soon: Larry the Cable Guy at the Brighton casino. Monthly: Chris Crespo's donut delivery. Ongoing: Friday Free Show gift bag with lotto tickets. Ongoing: Voicemail line 1-844-866-6326, or leave a message through Mediocre Messages in the Mediocre app. Ongoing: The hosts are pursuing partnerships with Sanford International Airport and Hooters. Next: The OG recap. Notable Guests/Callers Ross: In-studio third voice. Leads the casino, Lake Okeechobee, Lauderdale-by-the-Sea and Hard Rock comp segments and challenges Tom on AI. BDM Russ: Member whose website complaint email opens the show (not on air). Unnamed voicemail caller: Asks whether the Friday Free Show lotto tickets will be expired. Zach from Ohio: Voicemail with the Three Musketeers history. BDM Mike: Voicemail with a Netflix anime recommendation for Tom's sons. Unidentified voice: Explains where the "Edgar" haircut term comes from (seems to be a clip or caller, not clearly labeled in the transcript).

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A Mediocre Time with Tom and Dan (BDM Member Show) - Episode Notes

Episode: "Hot Pig" Hosts: Tom Vann, Dan Dennis | Guest: Ross (third mic for most of the show)

Sponsors / Ad Reads
  • None. No sponsor segments in this episode. The hosts mention they're trying to work with Sanford International Airport and Hooters, but there are no ad reads.
Segment Rundown
  1. Cold open: BDM Russ complaint. BDM Russ is still mocking the new tomanddan.com website because he wants the old clunky one back. The hosts say he never answered the rude reply he got, so his original email complaint stands.
  2. Cows and Cabs hangover. Both hosts are still hungover from Saturday's Cows and Cabs, a very upscale food and wine festival in Winter Park. They got in through a trade deal. They describe how absurd the amount of free food and booze from Orlando's high-end restaurants is. Eating light all day to save room backfired. A host says years of free food in green rooms have taken the thrill out of it, and Chris Crespo's monthly donut run gets a mention.
  3. Dunkin' sprinkle munchkins detour. A host waited about 30 minutes at a turnpike Dunkin' and walked out when he saw there were no sprinkle cake munchkins. Maisie got them for him later.
  4. Mixing drinks and blacking out. The hosts list the night's lineup: Dos Equis, Twisted Tea, two big Patron margaritas in pineapple cups, peanut butter tequila and Jameson. Dan blacked out in the Uber home, and Andrea had to tell him the next day how nice the driver was. He also binged Maisie's secret bag of Utz chips and left the kitchen looking like a frat house. "Beer before liquor" gets debated, along with a Willy Wonka bit about drinking the chocolate river. The resolution is light beer only from now on. BDMs spotted at the event included Busteker, Brendan O'Connor in a cowboy hat, Mike and Katrina, and the Jeff's Bagel Run crew.
  5. Cruise pianist rescue debate. A Royal Caribbean pianist was found by fishermen after about 20 hours treading water, 15 to 20 miles off California near Catalina Island. Tom floats the theory that the rescue would feel "less heroic" if the man went overboard on purpose. The others push back, and the group works through hypotheticals (mafia, drugs, an accident) that move the "hero score" up or down. Ross argues that someone who fought that hard to survive is likely to do more with his life. Tom's "hard stances" start getting counted.
  6. Cruise cameras and photo sales. The hosts agree cruise ships have cameras everywhere. Tom's wife was unsettled when ship photographers' pictures of her vanished from the atrium display after someone bought them. At Cows and Cabs, a cookie of their dog Dansby printed for Maisie got stolen, and they had to make another. They also criticize comedy club photo upsells: the Funny Bone camera's beautifying filter, pre-printed hard sells, the wasteful cardboard sleeves, and framed cruise photos at home being "trashy."
  7. Looking like your spouse. The hosts discuss long-married couples starting to look like siblings. Tom's comments on the topic add to his running list of hard stances.
  8. All-gender bathrooms and RunPee. Tom complains about unisex bathrooms. Others point out Europe, Fest porta-potties and newer restaurants that use single-stall rooms. Crystal used RunPee.com to time a movie bathroom break, found the women's room closed, and lost about five minutes because Tom told her someone was in the men's room.
  9. Food hall bathroom mystery. A host couldn't figure out how to open either restroom door at a food hall. His wife then watched an apparent employee and a disheveled woman leave the same restroom one after the other. This leads to a short tangent about public restrooms and spouses who will never go along with that idea.
  10. Ross's casino tour. Ross describes the huge Guitar Hotel at Seminole Hard Rock Hollywood, which has a long mall walk and tight odds, and Calder Casino, a non-Seminole casino tied to the Churchill Downs owners. His new favorite is a small Seminole casino and hotel at Brighton on Lake Okeechobee that opened in 2025. It has $5 craps tables, rooms around $200 (versus $600 in Tampa or $1,000 in Miami), historic Seminole photos and art, wood-fire steaks, and Larry the Cable Guy coming soon.
  11. Lake Okeechobee deep dive. The drive along the lake shows nothing but a roughly 50-foot levee. Other points covered: the cross-state canal route by boat, the lake's average depth of about 9 feet, a reported 6,500-acre brush fire inside the lake bounds last year, and the name meaning "big water." The hosts agree it's a part of Florida most people skip.
  12. Lauderdale-by-the-Sea. Ross got stuck in South Florida after gambling in Miami and found Lauderdale-by-the-Sea. He praises an Italian bakery's donut, the 1924 founding story on a pier plaque, and how quiet the town stays even at spring break. The hosts list other Florida spots they'd like to explore: the Panhandle, Northeast Florida, springs and Cocoa.
  13. Tom's boat and canoe. Tom's boat motor is close to dying, and the canoe he bought barely gets used. His boys would rather walk to a dock and fish, and he has taken them fishing daily for nearly a week. They joke that he's "King Loader" with kids who won't load.
  14. Hard Rock comps. Ross is at Hard Rock's top tier. Perks so far: a stand mixer, a free bottle of booze every Wednesday in November (his "casino bar"), $55 in free play every other day, and an offer to fly him from Sanford International to Atlantic City this weekend. The hosts call him "Craig Jr." A host once won a cruise on a cruise by playing video poker. Everyone praises the Sanford airport.
  15. Voicemail: expired lotto tickets? A listener asks whether the lotto tickets in the Friday Free Show gift bag will be expired. The hosts jokingly defend Dan and "the dance."
  16. Voicemail: Three Musketeers history. Zach from Ohio explains that Three Musketeers started as three bars: chocolate, vanilla and strawberry. Mars launched it in 1932 and dropped the extra flavors during WWII sugar rationing. This leads to Tom's dad's love of Neapolitan ice cream and their fights over scooping out only the strawberry, Milky Way versus Three Musketeers, and a Combos debate (pretzel vs. cracker, the salsa flavor). One host suggests sourdough pretzels with a hunk of cheddar instead.
  17. Tom Vann fun fact: Dock of the Bay. The whistling in "(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay" was a placeholder for lyrics. Otis Redding died in a plane crash on December 10, 1967, at age 26. Steve Cropper finished the track and added the seagulls and waves Redding had wanted.
  18. Does dying young make a legacy? The hosts debate whether artists who die young become more iconic. Examples: Sublime's Bradley Nowell, Kurt Cobain, early Kanye, and Tupac and Biggie hypotheticals. Ozzy is the counterexample: a full life lived in public, a reality show that made him look foolish, and a rediscovered solo catalog after the Halloween Horror Nights house. They also cover Rent, staged without its creator's rewrites, and A Confederacy of Dunces, the posthumous novel that Will Ferrell was once attached to adapt.
  19. Voicemail: anime rec from BDM Mike. Mike recommends a Netflix sci-fi Western anime for Tom's sons (he spelled it "Bass Machina"). Someone notes there were no Black cowboys, or Black attendees at all, at Cows and Cabs. Tom says his sons should be the ones recommending anime. He complains about the trend of long sentence-style titles and plots where gamers get trapped in the game.
  20. Garage door rods vs. AI. Ross catches Tom cherry-picking AI advice. Tom's wife asked AI and was told that storing fishing rods on the garage door is a bad idea. She worries the motor is struggling and now uses the front door. Tom insists the weight is negligible and compares it to the difference between .05 and .06 BAC. Others suggest an elephant-foot umbrella stand instead. The transcript has a glitch and gap here.
  21. The Edgar haircut. A voice explains where the term "Edgar" comes from and describes the cut: blunt front, mullet back. The hosts suggest Tom get a dyed Edgar. Tom denies dyeing his hair, says he could never keep plastic surgery secret, and talks about Rogaine and the "pink tax."
  22. Aging and the "Hot Pig" close. The hosts talk about confusing normal aging (receding hairlines, random soreness, forgetting why you walked into a room) with illness, and about slower recovery. This loops back to the Cows and Cabs blackout. Dan explains he overheated and slept naked in front of a fan like a "hot pig," which is where the episode title comes from. The show ends with a handoff to the OG recap.
Key Dates / Plugs Mentioned
  • December 10, 1967: Otis Redding's fatal plane crash (fun fact segment).
  • 1924: Founding of Lauderdale-by-the-Sea, per the pier plaque.
  • 2025: The new Seminole casino and hotel at Brighton on Lake Okeechobee opened.
  • Last year: The roughly 6,500-acre brush fire inside Lake Okeechobee's bounds.
  • Two weekends ago: Ross's night at the Brighton casino, then on to Miami.
  • Saturday: Cows and Cabs food and wine festival, Winter Park.
  • This past weekend: Ross gambling in Miami and staying in Lauderdale-by-the-Sea.
  • Every Wednesday in November: Hard Rock bottle-of-booze comp for Ross.
  • November 11 to 14: Hard Rock's comped trip offer from Sanford International to Atlantic City.
  • Coming soon: Larry the Cable Guy at the Brighton casino.
  • Monthly: Chris Crespo's donut delivery.
  • Ongoing: Friday Free Show gift bag with lotto tickets.
  • Ongoing: Voicemail line 1-844-866-6326, or leave a message through Mediocre Messages in the Mediocre app.
  • Ongoing: The hosts are pursuing partnerships with Sanford International Airport and Hooters.
  • Next: The OG recap.
Notable Guests/Callers
  • Ross: In-studio third voice. Leads the casino, Lake Okeechobee, Lauderdale-by-the-Sea and Hard Rock comp segments and challenges Tom on AI.
  • BDM Russ: Member whose website complaint email opens the show (not on air).
  • Unnamed voicemail caller: Asks whether the Friday Free Show lotto tickets will be expired.
  • Zach from Ohio: Voicemail with the Three Musketeers history.
  • BDM Mike: Voicemail with a Netflix anime recommendation for Tom's sons.
  • Unidentified voice: Explains where the "Edgar" haircut term comes from (seems to be a clip or caller, not clearly labeled in the transcript).

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