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Anchored is published by the Classic Learning Test. Hosted by CLT leadership, including our CEO Jeremy Tate, Anchored features conversations with leading thinkers on issues at the intersection of education and culture. New discussions are released every Thursday. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.


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  • May 14 · 27 min

    Building Leaders to Transform America | Jack McPherson

    On this episode of The Anchored Podcast, Jeremy is joined by Jack McPherson, Director of Development for the Emerging Leaders Program at the Convention of States (COS) Foundation. Jack shares his journey from Hillsdale College to serving as a founding member of the Emerging Leaders Program, a nine-month student formation fellowship that trains young men and women in the art of American Statesmanship. Discover how classical education, statesmanship, and a commitment to the common good are shaping future public servants and restoring the true meaning of leadership. Website: cosinternship.com If anybody would like to make a gift to the Emerging Leaders Program, go to cosinternship.com and click ‘Donate Today’ in the top right. If you would like to discuss financial support with Jack in greater depth, he can be reached 24/7 at 346-212-0576, and at jmcpherson@conventionofstatesfoundation.org.

  • May 7 · 38 min

    Why Economic and Civic Education Matters for a Free Society | Lawrence Reed

    On this episode of The Anchored Podcast, Noah Tyler, Chief Strategy Officer at CLT, is joined by Lawrence Reed, President Emeritus, Humphreys Family Senior Fellow, and Ron Manners Global Ambassador for Liberty at the Foundation for Economic Education (FEE). They discuss the parental involvement as the strongest predictor of student success, the significance of civics education in understanding constitutional principles, and the current state of economics education in the United States. They also reflect on historical parallels that can inform our understanding of current political trends. Dr. Reed's Forthcoming Book: Born of Ideas: How Principles, Faith, and Courage Forged America

  • April 30 · 44 min

    Teaching Latin and Greek as Living Languages | Guillermo Dillon

    What if we’ve been teaching Latin and Greek all wrong? In this episode of the Anchored Podcast, Soren Schwab sits down with Guillermo Dillon, Senior Consultant in the U.S. for the Polis Institute, to discuss why the future of Latin and Ancient Greek depends on something bigger than textbooks, but on our understanding of why these languages must be kept alive. Guillermo makes the case that Greek and Latin should not be treated as “dead languages” or mere tools for boosting test scores, but as living gateways into the intellectual tradition of the West—the "Republic of Letters", as the American Founding Fathers referred to it. From spoken Latin and immersive pedagogy to the growing demand for trained classical language teachers, this conversation explores what it would look like to teach ancient languages as languages once again. Be sure to check out Guillermo Dillon’s forthcoming book, a practical teacher’s guide designed to help educators teach "Unus, Duo, Tres" using a communicative, immersive Latin method. This resource is built specifically to help schools and teachers bring spoken Latin into the classroom with confidence. Learn more about Guillermo and the Polis Institute here: https://www.polisjerusalem.org/ https://www.polisjerusalem.org/resource/unus-duo-tres-latine-loquamur-per-scaenas-et-imagines/ Timestamps 00:40 – Introduction & Guest Background 02:54 – Guillermo’s Educational Journey 05:16 – Growing Up Bilingual & Learning Languages 07:12 – Discovering Spoken Latin 10:50 – Why Learn Latin and Greek? 16:56 – Why Speaking Latin Matters 17:01 – The POLIS Institute & Its Mission 19:56 – The Classical Education Teacher Shortage 25:51 – Training Teachers, Not Just Buying Curriculum 30:25 – Advice for Schools Starting Latin Programs 34:30 – Guillermo’s New Book & *Unus, Duo, Tres* 38:35 – Teacher Success Stories 40:47 – A Book That Changed Guillermo’s Life: *Antigone* 43:38 – Final Thoughts & Closing #AnchoredPodcast #ClassicLearningTest #Latin #AncientGreek #ClassicalEducation #Humanities #GreatBooks #POLISInstitute #LiberalArts #TeacherTraining

  • April 28 · 1 hr 1 min

    Ben Sasse on Dying, Education, and What Matters Most

    Most people accept death as the ultimate loss—Ben Sasse embraces it with humor, hope, and a profound faith that changes how we see life, death, and education. In this deeply personal yet inspiring episode, one of America's most eloquent voices shares how a terminal diagnosis sharpened his moral clarity and deepened his understanding of what truly matters. Ben Sasse, a former senator, university president, and thoughtful advocate for classical Christian education, opens up about confronting mortality with a rare combination of honesty, humor, and faith. He recounts the moments that have shaped his view on life’s purpose, from reading old books at Oxford to serving in the U.S. Senate. You’ll discover how his fight with cancer has transformed his approach to education—focusing on cultivating virtue, love, and friendship rather than mere career success. Also joining Ben Sasse and Jeremy Tate in the conversation is Keith Nix, who has served as the Head of School at Veritas School in Richmond, VA, since 2010. We break down: The importance of reading the Great Books to gain perspective beyond our moment How classical Christian education aims to reorder our affections and nurture true friendship The vital role of intergenerational engagement in building resilient communities The radical significance of the Sabbath in cultivating gratitude and humility Ben shares moving stories about friendship, faith, and the hope that sustains him through suffering. His candid reflections on mortality challenge us to make what time we have count—by loving our neighbor, pursuing truth, and living with eternal hope. This episode is perfect for educators, parents, and anyone wrestling with life’s biggest questions—especially in a culture fixated on outcomes and success. If you believe education is about forming humans who love goodness and beauty, you won’t want to miss this powerful conversation. 00:00 Intro 01:08 A Vision for Education 03:11 Oxford & the Power of Small Seminars 06:37 Friendship and the Good Life 08:57 Family, Education, and Moving for Values 13:15 From Public School to Classical Christian Education 16:19 The Art of Rhetoric & Great Speakers 20:12 Influences of Great Orators 23:14 A Father’s Discipline & Coaching 24:42 Challenges in Classical Christian Education 25:57 Core Values & Future of the Tradition 28:39 The Telos Debate (How Do You Say It?) 34:37 Education Beyond Job Training 35:30 Rethinking the Factory Model of Schooling 37:45 Family & Intergenerational Life 38:21 Friendship, Community, and Education 40:00 Social Media & Peer Segregation 42:10 Hands-On & Artistic Learning 45:10 Maturation, Responsibility, and Service 46:18 Over-Consumption & the Search for Purpose 47:18 Music, Math, and the Language of Heaven 48:48 Seminar-Based Learning 49:25 Facing Death & Living Well 49:54 Suffering, Resurrection, and Hope 50:39 Faith in the Face of Illness 53:45 Shared Loves & Deep Friendship 55:29 Community Across Generations 56:10 Humor, Death, and the Christian Life 57:09 The Hope of Final Victory 58:10 Beauty, Identity, and Creation 59:41 Gratitude, Legacy, and a Life Well Lived 01:00:11 Final Reflections & Memorable Friendship

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