Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Ep 1237 | Jase Tries to Be Phil for a Day & Learns How Much His Dad Carried for Decades

Dec 30, 2025 · 54 min
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After pushing himself to the brink trying to live up to the pace and standards Phil carried for decades, Jase walks away with a new appreciation for just how much his dad handled. The guys explore how Scripture reframes work and rest as part of God’s design rather than opposites, especially in light of Jesus’ resurrection. They close by reflecting on the difference between perishable and imperishable bodies, and why the hope of new creation gives meaning to both our limits now and what lies ahead.


In this episode: John 20, verses 19–29; Luke 24, verses 13–35; John 21, verses 1–14; Genesis 1, verses 1–31; Genesis 2, verses 2–15; Hebrews 2, verses 14–15; Hebrews 4, verses 1–11; Ephesians 2, verses 1–10; Revelation 21, verse 27


Chapters:

00:00-07:32 God’s perfect engineer

07:33-14:13 Wrapping up a sprawling study of John

14:14-23:43 Perishable bodies vs. imperishable bodies 23:44-32:37 What it truly means to “rest” 32:38-43:13 Working isn’t a curse, it’s our purpose

43:14-55:28 Going to brunch with Jesus

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