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Wellness has been one of the fastest-growing categories in travel for the better part of a decade. What started as a forgotten gym, a yoga mat, and a "heart-friendly" room service menu has evolved into a $6.8 trillion global industry — and for a growing share of travelers, wellness isn't an amenity anymore. It's the entire reason for the trip.
This episode traces that arc from spa to ecosystem, unpacking how wellness went from a niche, prescriptive fix-what's-broken offering to a mainstream movement built around optimization, longevity, and the "quantified self", and why so-called secondary wellness travelers (those bolting wellness onto a business trip or vacation) now outspend primary wellness travelers 2x over.
The conversation also digs into the blurry lines between wellness, well-being, and longevity, the backlash brewing against wearables, and why getting the basics right — sleep, above all — still trips up hotels at every price point.
Lastly, we zoom in on wellness infrastructure: the modern bathhouse boom bringing ancient bathing cultures — Roman thermae, Korean jjimjilbangs, Moroccan hammams — to American cities at a scale of football fields, not individual treatment rooms.
Together, the conversations raise the questions every operator and investor is asking: Is wellness a durable, differentiated business, or an amenities arms race that fades with the next trend? Can it be democratized beyond ultra-luxury resorts, or does authentic programming require capital that only the top of the market can afford? And as biohacking, longevity clinics, and NASA-grade recovery tech go mainstream, how do brands separate real outcomes from expensive wellness theater?
Follows
Gilad Berenstein – host
Cara Whitehill - host
Mia Kyricos — guest
Susie Arnett — guest
Robbie Hammond – guest
Go Deeper
- Bathhouse Is Changing The Face Of Wellness Across America — Forbes [$]
- Ten Big Longevity Trends and Their Hotel Applications for 2026 — Hospitality Net
- Travelers Are Booking Vacations Just to Sleep Better — Inside the Sleep Tourism Boom — Hotel Online
- Wellness Tourism Trends: What's Shaping Travel and Wellness in 2026 — Hospitality Net
- Beacons of Light: Chief Wellness Officers for Cities, Spa Business