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What's behind the Google AI shakeup

Today · 1 hr 36 min
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Google underwent a big AI shakeup this week, leaving a lot of people wondering whether there are big problems on team Gemini. David and Nilay start the show by discussing what's next for Jeff Dean and Demis Hassabis, before diving into the ways in which Google and Reddit have become existentially, problematically dependent on one another. After that, we talk through Disney's plan to turn Disney Plus into an everything app, and all the reasons we think that's a terrible idea and a sign of big problems in the streaming biz. Finally, in the lightning round, Brendan Carr is still a dummy, Snapchat wants AI out of your feed, and BMW has a Spider-Man to sell you.


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0:00 Cold Open
01:05 Google AI Shakeup Explained
03:24 Gemini Product Mess
05:29 Demis Hassabis and the AGI Split
14:06 Is Google Actually Behind?
15:29 AI Overviews Fail Parade
18:12 Gemini Users and Distribution
20:55 Google Plus Warning Signs
24:14 Reddit as Search Lifeline
27:35 AI Slop and Dead Internet
29:32 Google Buys Reddit Theory
33:51 Reddit Earnings Reality Check
35:40 Smoking Community Vibes
38:20 Disney Everything App
44:25 Time Spent Arms Race
47:39 Free Tier and Ads
52:08 Paramount Warner Deal Drama
01:00:23 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
01:11:51 Nikita Bier Leaves X
01:13:53 SpaceX Telecom Dreams
01:20:15 Snapchat Versus AI Slop
01:25:26 BMW In Car Ads
01:31:19 Wrap And Subscribe

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