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The Smart Passive Income Online Business and Blogging Podcast

Pat Flynn

Co-hosts Pat Flynn and Liz Wilcox reveal all of their online business and blogging strategies, income sources and killer marketing tips and tricks so you can be ahead of the curve with your online business. Discover how you can create multiple passive income streams that work for you so that you can have the time and freedom to do what you love, whether it's traveling the world, or just living comfortably at home. Since 2008, Pat Flynn has been supporting his family with his many online businesses, and he's been openly sharing his wins, his losses, and all the lessons in between with the community of energetic but humble entrepreneurs who follow him. Liz Wilcox, the Fresh Princess of Email Marketing, has built a multi-six-figure business from a $9 offer — without ads — and brings her no-nonsense expertise in email marketing, community building, and authentic audience connection to every episode. You'll learn about building authority online, email marketing, building a team and outsourcing, content marketing, podcasting, search engine optimization, niche sites, social media strategies, how to get more traffic, creating online courses, affiliate marketing, and productivity tips so that you create something amazing without burning yourself out. It's a mix of interviews with special guests, along with co-hosts shows from Pat and Liz you're not going to want to miss. Hit subscribe, and get ready to change your life.


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  • #944
    Yesterday · 31 min

    SPI 944: How to Attract and Land Brand Deals with Justin Moore

    Don't buy into the myth that you need a massive audience to start earning revenue through sponsorships! With brands willing to pay a premium for targeted reach, your niche following could be a big asset! But you can't just wait for offers to come your way. The truth is you're unlikely to be discovered without taking action and actively pursuing the right deals! You can start by listening in on today's incredible interview with the absolute brand partnership master, Justin Moore! From timeless tactics to strategies getting huge results in 2026, this session has it all! So how do you get your foot in the door with the companies you love and would actually want to support? Join us for this episode to access Justin's insights on landing long-term deals like a pro! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/session944. This episode was sponsored by Coveron. One scam can cost you everything. Protect yourself now. The first 100 users get 20% off with code smart20 at Coveron.com/smart20. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • Friday · 12 min

    I Post Every Day... Now What?

    AL #012 Building on-camera confidence and the consistency to post daily is like having a superpower. And that's exactly where many of our short-form video challenge participants are at right now! But what if you've built up a solid posting streak and still haven't gone viral? Do you double down and hope for the best or switch tactics? If this sounds like what you're going through, listen in on this AskLiz session! Today, I'm helping Brandon from Goodbye TOO Good Guy figure out what to do next. And first, I want you and Brandon to stop relying on going viral. For most of us, it'll never happen. But that doesn't mean we can't still build hugely successful businesses! If you tune in, you'll hear my advice for how to create content fast and pair it with other growth opportunities to level up your brand. All this without waiting for algorithm magic to happen! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/al012. And send in your online business questions at SpeakPipe.com/LizWilcox to be featured on the show! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 20 · 7 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: The Substack & Kit One-Two Punch with Airial Re’Nal

    If your best content is text-based, readers love Substack nowadays! It's essentially the modern-day blogging platform. And while we don't mention Substack much on the show, they have many great features to help you build your audience. That's why we're kicking off day three of our very first virtual audio summit with a chat on Substack recommendations. Our speaker, Airial Re’Nal, shares how she taps into the platform for daily growth and pairs it with Kit for next-level list building! So listen in to hear more from Airial, and visit YourTechAngel.com/operation-black-friday-readiness/ for her awesome free resource! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Airial-Renal. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 20 · 27 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: 7 Unconventional Hacks for More Emails with Pete McPherson

    Wow. Nobody comes up with unconventional email list building strategies quite like Pete McPherson! If you need a bunch of inspiration to get the gears turning, this is the session to listen in on! Hijacks, back-in-my-day tactics, controversial ideas, and off-the-wall suggestions are all right in Pete's wheelhouse. We cover everything from popups to why you should stop linking to your homepage and more! Day three of our List Building Live summit is one awesome session after another, so don't miss out! Listen in to hear more from Pete, and visit PeteClub.com/funnel-box to turn your offer into a complete email funnel fast! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Pete-Mcpherson. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 20 · 12 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: SEO and Website Wins with Leanne Wong

    SEO isn't dead in 2026! Especially with AI platforms popping off, there's a lot of traffic that might come your way nowadays from the likes of ChatGPT, Gemini, and Claude. But how do you know what people are searching for and what you should write blog posts about? And more importantly, how do you turn clicks and readers into email list subscribers with a good freebie strategy? For answers, listen in on this awesome session with our List Building Live speaker, Leanne Wong! She covers everything from the top SEO tools to designing custom lead magnets for a complete and effective growth strategy. And for more from Leanne, visit LeanneWong.co/free-seo-resources! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Leanne-Wong. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 20 · 6 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: Think Outside the World Wide Web with Lorraine Lane

    Day three of our very first virtual audio summit, List Building Live, is one awesome session after another. This one, featuring Lorraine Lane, is no exception! That's because she shares something we all need to be reminded of: in-person is just better. Especially when it comes to building relationships and networking, you can't beat being in the same room with your top people! Listen in to hear more from Lorraine, and visit My.LaneBC.com/get-clients to build a stand-out brand! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Lorraine-Lane. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 20 · 10 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: One Event… 300 Leads with Courtney Vickery

    Everyone always talks about joining creator bundles to grow your email list. Even on the SPI Podcast, we've been discussing this a lot lately. But how do you find good bundles to join? How do you partner up with creators that are the right fit for your brand? Hint: this session will probably get you to log back into your old Facebook account again! Our List Building Live speaker, Courtney Vickery, shares her best tips for bundle collabs. From joining to hosting, Courtney has you covered today! Listen in for more, and visit DecletDesignsGoodies.com/tech-stack for her awesome free resource! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Courtney-Vickery. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 20 · 10 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: Restarting After Going AWOL with Kat Sturtz

    The internet gods don't like posting and ghosting. If you email a cold list, they get ticked off. That's because they like you to be consistent, and they like people opening your emails! But what happens if you go into a literal coma, like our next List Building Live speaker? How do you restart your list after disappearing for a while? It's all about the work you do before you send out your revamped welcome sequences! Kat Sturtz shares exactly how you can appease the internet gods. Tune in because it's not about scalability, at first. Your comeback is all about reaching out to one person at a time! Listen in for more from Kat, and visit RockingYourPath.com/stress-free-networking for her 5 Steps to Stress-Free Networking resource! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Kat-Sturtz. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 20 · 7 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: $5 Day… Lead Ads That Convert with Adrienne Farrow

    If you're not using Facebook lead ads to grow your email list, you're missing out! Like we've said before, day three of our List Building Live summit is one awesome session after another. This one, featuring Adrienne Farrow, will loop you in on a tactic that isn't discussed often enough! With all the ad options available from Meta, no one can blame online entrepreneurs for overlooking some truly useful features. Adrienne shares her exact strategy for acquiring new leads with highly targeted freebies. She also reveals how she funnels new subscribers into a Facebook Group to take everything to the next level! Listen in for more from Adrienne, and visit AdrienneFarrow.Kit.com/googledriveresetkit for her Google Drive Reset Kit! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Adrienne-Farrow. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 19 · 8 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: 400 Leads in 30 Days with Pinterest with Jen Chapin

    Are you sleeping on Pinterest? Wake up! We're starting day two of our List Building Live summit with another awesome strategy. This one, you're likely ignoring if you're too focused on the social platforms everyone always talks about. So how do you build a Pinterest-to-profits pipeline? Listen in because our speaker, Jen Chapin, shares the highly effective blueprint she's developed. With only 90 minutes of work per week, she's getting hundreds of new email signups through her cleverly designed pins! And for more from Jen, visit JenVhapin.net/pinterest-to-profit-guide to grab her free Pinterest guide! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Jen-Chapin. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 19 · 6 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: Grow Your List by 10% with a Live Private Podcast with Diana Alt

    Collaboration opportunities are everywhere. That's why getting you to partner up with other creators has been such a big theme for us this year! But we're now walking the walk ourselves like never before with day two of our List Building Live summit! And this session with our speaker, Diana Alt, is just as valuable as everything we've shared so far. Tune in because Diana shares her strategy for hosting private livestreams where she answers questions on job search and career development. Of course, she always has collaborators on with her to reach new audiences. But the best part is that her people know she doesn't post full replays, so they always show up live and participate Listen in to hear more from Diana, and visit DianaAlt.com to join her free newsletter on career growth! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Diana-Alt. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 19 · 13 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: 1000% ROI with Classified Ads with Daniel Throssell

    Most people either have time or money to invest in growing a brand. But what happens when you get to the point where you have both? This incredible session with Daniel Throssell, Australia's number one copywriter, is a part of our List Building Live summit you absolutely shouldn't miss! That's because Daniel is a perfect example of what happens when you put your personality out there and build an audience around it. As you know, that's something we always talk about and recommend on the show! So listen in to get Daniel's 1000% ROI classified ad strategy that pairs sponsored newsletters with highly customized offers and copy for next-level results! For more, visit PersuasivePage.com to join Daniel's newsletter! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Daniel-Throssell. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 19 · 7 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: The Free for All Collab You Can Rinse and Repeat with Asmita Jason

    There are many growth strategies out there, but real results most often come from finding something that's simple and repeatable for you! That's what you'll walk away with if you listen in on this awesome List Building Live session! Of course, we're continuing day two of our very first virtual audio summit with another great chat. Our speaker, Asmita Jason, shares how she leverages no-opt-in giveaways as an efficient and consistent monthly newsletter growth tactic. But the best part about it is how easy it is to rinse and repeat this method as often as you want! Listen in to hear more from Asmita, and visit AsmitaJason.com/47-ideas-to-promote-your-lead-magnet to access her free marketing resource! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Asmita-Jason. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 19 · 6 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: 4 List Collabs You Haven’t Thought of Yet with Nadalie Bardo

    Creators often default to bundles as their collab tactic and call it a day. But there are so many more opportunities out there! Not only that, but you can often get better results by tightening your circle and working with a few key people! Our List Building Live speaker, Nadalie Bardo, is all about partnering up to reach highly targeted audiences. Essentially, she's down with OPP! That's to say she often shows up on other people's platforms to teach and deliver massive value. You already know we love that here! Joint venture webinars, workshop swaps, and boot camps are all covered today by Nadalie! Listen in to hear more from her, and visit SmartPassiveIncome.com/Nadalie-Bardo to access Nadalie's free Collab Ready Checklist! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Nadalie-Bardo. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 19 · 16 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: Let’s Get Visible—What to Do Before You Share Your Freebie with Tracy Beavers

    You don't want to be the best-kept secret! If people don't know who you are and what you do, they can't help you. That's why finding networking opportunities is vital even if you're running your whole brand online! So how do you put yourself and your goals out there? More importantly, how do you then convert your visibility into clients? If you're posting but nothing's actually happening in your business, listen in on this expert session with Tracy Beavers! This List Building Live talk will help you find more leads and networking opportunities than you'll know what to do with, so don't miss out! Listen in to hear more from Tracy, and visit TracyBeavers.biz/lizlistbuildinglive2026 for her free Visibility-to-Client workbook! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Tracy-Beavers. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • #943
    August 19 · 33 min

    SPI 943: How to Collab for Major Brand Growth

    #943 It's gotten to the point where my kids roll their eyes every time I say this. But "you can have everything in life you want, if you will just help other people get what they want." And if there's one regret I have in entrepreneurship, it's that I didn't fully understand the power of building relationships and collaborating sooner! Don't make the same mistake, because growing alongside other creators and brands is the absolute fast track to success. And that's what today's episode is all about! Liz and I are coming at this from two different angles because you can use either one of our approaches to win big. And for even greater results, think about combining both! Liz will walk you through her methods of finding, reaching out to, and partnering with relevant creators. Then I'll step in to share how I'm working with major brands in the Pokémon space on some next-level deals! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/session943. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 18 · 8 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: 4000 Subscribers by Hosting Your Own Bundle with Leticia Jadene

    We've been discussing collaboration a lot lately. Now, we're walking the walk with our first virtual audio summit. Tune in because this session is the perfect place to start to understand the power of bringing creators together! Our speaker, Leticia Jadene, shares how she regularly hosts collaborative bundles, freebie galas, and summits to supercharge her email list growth and build niche authority. Her collabs regularly get her thousands of new subscribers! And while you have a lot to gain by participating in these kinds of events, going the extra mile to become a host is where it's really at. Listen in to get Leticia's awesome tips, and visit LeticiaJCollins.com/challenge for her free 5-day audience growth challenge! And if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Leticia-Jadene. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 18 · 9 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: All in on Ads with Chris Orzechowski

    With the right funnel in place, running ads to get newsletter subscribers can pay for itself and then some! So why aren't more email marketers learning how to leverage this strategy the right way? This awesome session with Chris Orzechowski is part of our very first virtual audio summit. Don't miss out because this is the perfect place to start if you're too busy to rely on content creation for email list growth! Chris shares how he engineers his ads to bring in dozens of new subscribers per day. But that's just the start. It's his next-level upsell strategy that brings everything together and turns new signups into actual revenue. Listen in to hear more from Chris, and visit SmartPassiveIncome.com/ChrisOrzechowski for his free Flow Fixer checklist! If you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Chris-Orzechowski. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 18 · 10 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: Hostess with the Mostest (Event Hosting for Max Leads) with Gabe Cox

    Getting people off social media and onto your email list is an uphill battle. Not least because platforms like Facebook and Instagram are actively working against you. They absolutely don't want you moving people off their platforms! That's why hosting your own virtual events with like-minded creators is such a powerful alternative path to massive growth! Gabe Cox, our speaker for this List Building Live summit session, is a perfect example of what can happen when you sidestep the social media system! That's because five years of the content grind netted her about 350 email list subscribers. One virtual event later, she was already up to 3,500! Tune in to hear how she pulled it off because you don't even need an audience to start! And for more from Gabe, visit SmartPassiveIncome.com/GabeCox to grab her free Get Event Ready resource! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Gabe-Cox. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  • August 18 · 14 min

    LIST BUILDING LIVE: Finding Freebie Swaps (That You’ll Actually Commit To) with Allyn Miller

    When the views and likes come in on social media, the dopamine hit tricks you into thinking your business is growing. But what happens when you run the numbers and your posts aren't bringing in any real revenue? Listen in on this List Building Live session for the freebie swap tactic that sidesteps the social trap and sets you up for actual results! Allyn Miller is joining us for our very first virtual audio summit to deliver an inspiring look at what happens when you stop chasing validation. She shares her cold outreach tactic, how she finds collaborators off social media, and why multiple follow-ups are key to building new relationships. Listen in to hear more from Allyn, and visit SmartPassiveIncome.com/AllynMiller for her free 3-Step Guide to a Healthy Relationship with Your Young Child! Also, if you need a group of business peers to team up with and take action, List Building Live listeners get 50% off the SPI Community for life! Join us at SmartPassiveIncome.com/listlive using the code 26LIST to jump on this special offer! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/LBL-Allyn-Miller. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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