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The Shift with Greg James · October 28 · 38 min

Finding Passion Through Work & Life

Does your career need to be your passion to be fulfilling? In Episode 5 of The Shift with Greg James, Greg speaks with Natalie DeGenova, Director of Business Developmentand Partnerships at She Runs It and a fitness and wellness coach, about pursuing interests beyond a demanding career and making time for what energizes you. Ashley Gao, an NYU Integrated Marketing master’s student and former college basketball player, joins with a next-gen perspective on balancing school, career ambitions and personal interests while finding her own path into marketing. Together, they explore the pressure to find purpose through work, the importance of protecting passions outside it, and why fulfillment doesn’t have to come from a job alone. Two generations. One honest conversation about passion, balance and building a life that feels full. Follow The Shift with Greg James for more conversations about careers, leadership, mentorship and the future ofwork.

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Does your career need to be your passion to be fulfilling?


In Episode 5 of The Shift with Greg James, Greg speaks with Natalie DeGenova, Director of Business Developmentand Partnerships at She Runs It and a fitness and wellness coach, about pursuing interests beyond a demanding
career and making time for what energizes you.


Ashley Gao, an NYU Integrated Marketing master’s student and former college basketball player, joins with a next-gen perspective on balancing school, career ambitions and personal interests while finding her own path into
marketing.


Together, they explore the pressure to find purpose through work, the importance of protecting passions outside it, and why fulfillment doesn’t have to come from a job alone.

Two generations. One honest conversation about passion, balance and building a life that feels full.

Follow The Shift with Greg James for more conversations about careers, leadership, mentorship and the future ofwork.

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