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Author, Speaker, Songwriter, Priest Ian Cron sits down with Andrew for a chat about the various points in Ian's career. They also discuss how the enneagram, and knowing more fully who you are, is a valuable asset in handling change in your life.
For more with Ian visit IanCron.com
Also, stay tuned after The Pivot for another bonus mini-podcast with a story and song from Andrew's new album "The Painted Desert".
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