Skip to content
Artwork for The Next Token
The Next Token · Today · 1 hr 5 min

"Nobody's Going to Write the Next React" - Ep 08

Recorded October 30, 2026. Armin Ronacher and Mario Zechner of Earendil join Dillon and Rhys. Mario explains his "software is dead" tweet, admits he always pushes to main, and the group figures out whether code review was ever more than theater. Dillon walks through Cloudflare's Engineering Codex and AI code reviewer, Armin tells the story of two agents passing ZIP files to each other over WhatsApp, and Armin and Mario explain what Earendil wants to be next year. LINKS / ON-SCREEN REFERENCES, IN ORDER SOFTWARE IS DEAD. SAD. Mario, "software is dead. sad." https://x.com/badlogicgames/status/2115002476311241104 Mario, "jk" https://x.com/badlogicgames/status/2115527464978137477 Schleudertrauma (German Wikipedia) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schleudertrauma Cristina Poncela Cubeiro, Earendil https://ai.engineer/speakers/cristina-poncela-cubeiro CODE REVIEW IS THEATER Justin Bennett, "Code Review Sucks Now, but It Doesn't Have To" https://just-be.dev/blog/code-review-sucks-now Pi https://pi.dev Pi Durable https://earendil.com/posts/pi-durable Pi Durable on Cloudflare https://earendil.com/posts/pi-durable-on-cloudflare "About 1,000 podcast episodes" on Pi Durable https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pi+durable OpenCode https://opencode.ai Cloudflare, "Code Orange: Fail Small is complete" (the Engineering Codex) https://blog.cloudflare.com/code-orange-fail-small-complete/ RFC 2119, MUST / SHOULD / MAY https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2119/ Cloudflare, "Orchestrating AI Code Review at scale" https://blog.cloudflare.com/ai-code-review/ Kimi https://www.kimi.com/ Armin, "Engineering for Breathing Room" https://mitsuhiko.github.io/talks/engineering-at-earendil Lefos https://lefos.com THE BIRTH OF WAY TOO MUCH SOFTWARE ArtCraft https://getartcraft.com GIMP https://www.gimp.org Foldkit https://foldkit.dev Effect https://effect.website Moltbook https://www.moltbook.com Cloudflare Hyperdrive https://developers.cloudflare.com/hyperdrive Dillon, Artifacts open beta https://x.com/dillon_mulroy/status/2105647446789374456 Mario's robot https://mariozechner.at/posts/2026-05-30-shitty-robot/ Amp (Thorsten Ball) https://ampcode.com TypeSafe, Jev https://typesafe.ai/blog/introducing-system-one-models-and-jev Cloudflare, Clef decision models https://blog.cloudflare.com/clef-decision-models WHAT IS EARENDIL BUILDING? Earendil https://earendil.com SUBSCRIBE Subscribe on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@NextTokenShow and wherever you get your podcasts HOSTS + GUESTS Dillon Mulroy - https://x.com/dillon_mulroy - https://dillonis.online/ - https://twitch.tv/dillon Rhys Sullivan - https://x.com/RhysSullivan - https://rhys.dev/ - https://executor.sh/ Sunil Pai - https://x.com/threepointone - https://sunilpai.dev/ Guest: Armin Ronacher - https://x.com/mitsuhiko - https://lucumr.pocoo.org/ Guest: Mario Zechner - https://x.com/badlogicgames - https://mariozechner.at/ The Next Token - https://x.com/NextTokenShow - https://www.youtube.com/@NextTokenShow Sponsored by Cloudflare - https://www.cloudflare.com/

0:00-1:05:45

transcript

No transcript — this publisher did not publish one.

show notes

Recorded October 30, 2026. Armin Ronacher and Mario Zechner of Earendil join Dillon and Rhys. Mario explains his "software is dead" tweet, admits he always pushes to main, and the group figures out whether code review was ever more than theater. Dillon walks through Cloudflare's Engineering Codex and AI code reviewer, Armin tells the story of two agents passing ZIP files to each other over WhatsApp, and Armin and Mario explain what Earendil wants to be next year.

LINKS / ON-SCREEN REFERENCES, IN ORDER

SOFTWARE IS DEAD. SAD.

Mario, "software is dead. sad." https://x.com/badlogicgames/status/2115002476311241104

Mario, "jk" https://x.com/badlogicgames/status/2115527464978137477

Schleudertrauma (German Wikipedia) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schleudertrauma

Cristina Poncela Cubeiro, Earendil https://ai.engineer/speakers/cristina-poncela-cubeiro

CODE REVIEW IS THEATER

Justin Bennett, "Code Review Sucks Now, but It Doesn't Have To" https://just-be.dev/blog/code-review-sucks-now

Pi https://pi.dev

Pi Durable https://earendil.com/posts/pi-durable

Pi Durable on Cloudflare https://earendil.com/posts/pi-durable-on-cloudflare

"About 1,000 podcast episodes" on Pi Durable https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pi+durable

OpenCode https://opencode.ai

Cloudflare, "Code Orange: Fail Small is complete" (the Engineering Codex) https://blog.cloudflare.com/code-orange-fail-small-complete/

RFC 2119, MUST / SHOULD / MAY https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2119/

Cloudflare, "Orchestrating AI Code Review at scale" https://blog.cloudflare.com/ai-code-review/

Kimi https://www.kimi.com/

Armin, "Engineering for Breathing Room" https://mitsuhiko.github.io/talks/engineering-at-earendil

Lefos https://lefos.com

THE BIRTH OF WAY TOO MUCH SOFTWARE

ArtCraft https://getartcraft.com

GIMP https://www.gimp.org

Foldkit https://foldkit.dev

Effect https://effect.website

Moltbook https://www.moltbook.com

Cloudflare Hyperdrive https://developers.cloudflare.com/hyperdrive

Dillon, Artifacts open beta https://x.com/dillon_mulroy/status/2105647446789374456

Mario's robot https://mariozechner.at/posts/2026-05-30-shitty-robot/

Amp (Thorsten Ball) https://ampcode.com

TypeSafe, Jev https://typesafe.ai/blog/introducing-system-one-models-and-jev

Cloudflare, Clef decision models https://blog.cloudflare.com/clef-decision-models

WHAT IS EARENDIL BUILDING?

Earendil https://earendil.com

SUBSCRIBE

Subscribe on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@NextTokenShow and wherever you get your podcasts

HOSTS + GUESTS

Dillon Mulroy - https://x.com/dillon_mulroy - https://dillonis.online/ - https://twitch.tv/dillon

Rhys Sullivan - https://x.com/RhysSullivan - https://rhys.dev/ - https://executor.sh/

Sunil Pai - https://x.com/threepointone - https://sunilpai.dev/

Guest: Armin Ronacher - https://x.com/mitsuhiko - https://lucumr.pocoo.org/

Guest: Mario Zechner - https://x.com/badlogicgames - https://mariozechner.at/

The Next Token - https://x.com/NextTokenShow - https://www.youtube.com/@NextTokenShow

Sponsored by Cloudflare - https://www.cloudflare.com/