America’s Limits, Iran’s Leverage, Pakistan’s Moment: Maleeha Lodhi on a Shifting Order

After almost six weeks of war, how did Pakistan manage to get the US and Iran to talk? Amid a still-fragile situation in the Middle East, that question sits at the heart of this conversation with Maleeha Lodhi. She has served as Pakistan’s ambassador to Washington, as well as to the UK and United Nations. For her, the Islamabad talks mark a moment of wider significance, as the middle powers demonstrate their capacity to influence geopolitics. Read this interview with Mishal’s notes on Bloomberg Weekend: www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview 02:55 - Pakistan as a peacebroker 05:00 - Field Marshal Asim Munir and President Trump 07:49 - Pakistan and Iran 10:00 - Economic pain in Pakistan 13:40 - Israel and Lebanon 14:45 - “I'd like to be optimistic” 19:30 - US miscalculations 22:00 - “US dominance is fading” 23:00 Middle powers can “shape geopolitics” 23:53 - Is China a winner? 29:00 - Trump’s Board of Peace 29:50 - “Common ground can be found” Contact The Mishal Husain Show mishalshow@bloomberg.net Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.