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World Cup-winning Red Roses and best friends Emily Scarratt and Natasha Hunt host the award winning The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby, with their good friend, South African broadcaster, Elma Smit.

Often joined by current Red Rose Meg Jones, the team brings a unique mix of insight, humour, and honesty to the world of women’s rugby.

Their mission? To grow the game and help reshape how women and girls see themselves — through untold stories, raw conversations, and unmatched access across clubs, players, unions, and coaches.

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  • 163 episodes
  • Updated June 29

Episodes163

  • Mar 11, 2022 · 51 min

    S2 Ep12: Meg Jones, Scaz’s statue & Shirley the cat

    England 7s star, Meg Jones, joins Scaz, Elma and Tinds, fresh from Wasps’ historic victory over Quins at the weekend. She relives her career highs, lows and learnings, admits she was grateful for doing her ACL, highlights the importance of visibility during Pride Month and shares the challenges and joys of having your partner play in the same team as you. They also discuss Scaz’s new statue on the banks of the Thames, Mike gets some stretching tips for his geriatric hips & Elma’s nosey cat, Shir

  • Feb 25, 2022 · 56 min

    S2 Ep11: Coaching Tales with Rachel Taylor

    Scaz and Elma are joined by Rachel Taylor, AKA Tails, for this weeks episode of The Good, The Scaz, & The Rugby. With an incredible playing career and coaching CV, Tails compares and contrasts her experience in coaching both men’s and woman’s rugby teams.

  • Feb 11, 2022 · 55 min

    S2 Ep10: Rowing for Gold with Helen Glover

    What’s it like being a two-time Olympic champion, quintuple World Cup champion, and a mother of three? Helen Glover joins Scaz, Elma and Mike this week to talk rugby, rowing and parenting.

  • Jan 28, 2022 · 57 min

    S2 Ep9: The Interview, The Zone and The Kitten with Ruby Tui

    Ruby Tui, the woman who gave the most energetic post-match interview during the 7s in Tokyo last summer, joins Elma and Scaz this week. Cat mad Elma can’t help but ask Ruby about her kitten, straight off the bat, but from there they get down to juggling 7s and 15s in the biggest year of women’s rugby to date, the levels of teammate telepathy it takes to be a Black Fern, and reminiscing about their time on the 7s circuit together.

  • Jan 14, 2022 · 44 min

    S2 Ep8: Sevens Speedster Jasmine Joyce

    Sevens star, Jaz Joyce, joins Scaz, Elma and Tinds in a historic week for Welsh women's rugby, as the first female players have been awarded professional contracts by the WRU. Beginning a World Cup year as a newly contracted player, with sights firmly on New Zealand, Jaz reflects on her olympic journey, her time on the 7s circuit and finally finishing off her teacher training; which Mike saw as an opportunity to learn some parenting tips.

  • Dec 24, 2021 · 1 hr 1 min

    S2 Ep7: Mo Ho Ho! Merrrrrry Scazmas!

    Scaz, Elma and Mo are back together to see out 2021. There’s awards to dish out, school nativities to relive and rugby to discuss! Mo’s BaaBaas experience and Elma’s cats are also on the menu. It’s a cracker… so grab a mince pie and join the girls for a holly jolly Christmas party! (WARNING: May contain traces of tinsel...)

  • Dec 17, 2021 · 46 min

    S2 Ep6: Kicking, Tinsel, Sass and Nails with Zoe Harrison

    England and Saracens Fly Half, Zoe Harrison, one of the standout players of the Autumn Nations, joins Scaz, Elma and Tinds this week. The back-to-back premiership winner and back-to-back grand slammer, tells the team about the battle for the Red Roses 10 shirt and the big Harry Potter social after the Autumn Nations. The team also debate the tackiness of tinsel, the best colour for Christmas nails, who’ll be kicking when Scaz is back from injury, and which of Zoe’s trophies is her favourite. The

  • Dec 3, 2021 · 39 min

    S2 Ep5: When Worlds Collide

    This week Good, Bad, Rugby & Good, Scaz, Rugby worlds collide as Alex Payne joins Elma, Scaz and Tinds for a bit of a jolly in the studio. Rugby Union’s eligibility rule changes are on the menu, as the crack team dream up which other nation they’d want to get a cap for, if it was up to them to pick. Emily and Elma relive their weekend working in various guises on the Baa-baas game, and they discuss the trajectory of women’s rugby in England with the new broadcast deal between Prem 15s and the BB

  • Nov 19, 2021 · 56 min

    S2 Ep4: The Marlie Packer Perspective

    Marlie Packer drops in for a chat with Scaz, Tinds and Elma, fresh from England camp and back on parenting duties. She takes us behind the scenes and reveals how karaoke and balloon art have helped the players to switch off in between tough training sessions and world class performances. We look at the young guns breaking through at international level, and how the Premier 15s is helping to advance women’s rugby.

  • Nov 12, 2021 · 47 min

    S2 Ep3: The Debrief with Simon Middleton

    England Head Coach, Simon Middleton is with Scaz, Tinds and Elma this week, to reflect on the Red Roses’ dominance over the Black Ferns. Simon looks ahead to the Six Nations and next year’s World Cup, and gives us his take on the players that have stepped up so far. He also shares his thoughts on Emily’s foray into punditry.

  • Nov 5, 2021 · 1 hr 2 min

    S2 Ep2: Live from The Prince with Mo Hunt

    Scaz, Elma and Mike are together in the flesh for the first time ever, live from The Prince in Fulham, in a week bookended by two England New Zealand clashes. Mo Hunt joins the team as a special guest, after a weekend of commentary at Sandy Park to get into the nuts and bolts of the game. She also reflects on her GB 7s journey, the Olympic bed sheet stash that came with and jumping straight back into 15s.

  • Oct 28, 2021 · 26 min

    S2 Ep1: Mucking in at Scaz’s Farm

    Scaz and Tinds are back with a bang for Season 2 on the Scarratt family farm. Mike's visit to rural Leicestershire wouldn't be complete without finding out about Emily's childhood ‘helping’ the family business. The pair also get into Scaz's rehab journey, Mike's recent foray into coaching in the Premier 15s and they look ahead to the Autumn Internationals, where the Red Roses will take on the Black Ferns twice.

  • May 27, 2021 · 51 min

    S1 Ep11: The Marvellous Mo Hunt and the Premier 15s Final

    <div>England World Cup winner and GB Sevens scrum-half Mo Hunt is our final guest of this first series. She joins Elma and her good friend Scaz to look ahead to the Allianz Premier 15s Final on Sunday. Saracens take on Harlequins and Mo will be part of the GSR team at Kingsholm on the day. Mo is also back in Sevens mode at the moment as she prepares her body and mind for Tokyo, which isn't easy for lots of reasons but made that little bit harder given her sister is a top class baker.</div>

  • May 20, 2021 · 1 hr 10 min

    S1 Ep10: Simi Pam: On the frontline and in the front row

    <div>Bristol Bears prop Simi Pam's electric try in the Allianz 15s against Sale Sharks went viral for obvious reasons: it's not every day you see a prop move like she does. The athlete-turned-rugby player joins Elma, Scaz and Tinds to talk about her transition from track and field to the elite end of the game, but she also explains how rugby union has helped her to love her body for what it can do. Pam is an inspiration, juggling the demands of top-flight rugby with her high-pressure job as a do

  • May 13, 2021 · 53 min

    S1 Ep9: Mhairi Maclennan on Sexual Abuse

    <div>Athlete, teacher and campaigner Mhairi Maclennan joins Elma, Scaz and Mike to talk about the work she is doing to make women's sport a safer and more equitable place. She almost quit athletics two years ago after suffering years of sexual abuse by her former coach - but she now has the Commonwealth Games in her sights. Mhairi's inspirational comeback has led to her most important work to date: The Kyniska Advocacy, named after the Sparta princess, to push through policy changes in women's s

  • Apr 29, 2021 · 49 min

    S1 Ep8: Double Trouble: Montell Douglas - Super Olympian

    <div>Elma, Emily and Mike are joined by a unique British athlete: Montell Douglas represented Great Britain at the 2008 Olympics in both the 100m and the 4x100m relay. She won relay gold at the Commonwealth Games in Delhi......and then in 2016 she gave it up and turned to bobsleigh. Within two years she was at the 2018 Winter Olympics and is aiming to win a medal in Beijing in 2022 at the Winters, 14 years on from a summer Olympic final in the same city.</div>

  • Apr 22, 2021 · 50 min

    S1 Ep7: World Bantamweight Champion Shannon Courtenay

    <div>Elma, Emily and James are joined by the new WBA Bantamweight World Champion Shannon Courtenay for a fascinating conversation about the fight game, toughness and using sport to turn your life around: In 2015 Shannon was overweight, smoking 40-a day, drinking heavily and gorging on fast food. Then, desperate to choose a different path she walked through the doors of Finchley ABC Boxing Club and changed her life forever. This week on GSR we'll hear her remarkable story. Plus, Elma talks about

  • Apr 15, 2021 · 40 min

    S1 Ep6: Le Crunch - The England/France Rivalry

    <div>Elma, Emily and James assess the rivalry between the Red Roses and France in the company of French podcaster Veronique Landew. Why have England been so superior over the last two years, how big is the battle between the two, and how is the head to head viewed on the other side of the channel? The foursome also reflect on England's thrashing of Italy, Emily's first try of the Six Nations, and more generally discuss pathways for young girls to get unto rugby and what needs to change to make t

  • Apr 8, 2021 · 53 min

    S1 Ep5: Shaunagh Brown, Scaz, Six Nations & Sweets

    <div>Elma, Emily and Mike are joined by England and Harlequins prop Shaunagh Brown to dig into her remarkable and varied CV: from the Commonwealth Games hammer final to the Red Roses via the fire brigade, gas fitting and commercial diving. They also look back on the Six Nations opener against Scotland and ahead to Italy, share hair tips, update the England tuck-shop news, and discuss whether trying out for the Winter Olympics should be Shaunagh's next challenge. </div>

  • Apr 2, 2021 · 42 min

    S1 Ep4: Six Nations Preview

    <div>Elma, Emily and Mike are joined by the winner of multiple Grand Slams and the 2014 World Cup winner Kat Merchant to preview the start of the Women's Six Nations. They dig deep on what's happening in England camp, where the threats might come from, why Emily made her bed and why Kat has the worst tattoo in women's rugby. Plus, Scaz reveals why she's so excited about Fantasy Rugby and lifts the lid on what happens when ex-captains are kicked out of the Whatsapp group. </div>