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The Future of Everything

Best of: The future of AI and the law

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These days, AI is everywhere, and it’s increasingly hard to separate the gains from the slop. With that in mind, we're re-releasing my conversation with Stanford Law professor Daniel Ho on the future of AI and the law. When we look for applications where AI can deliver measurable benefit, the legal profession stands out, both for its potential gains in efficiency and equity, and for how much is at stake if we get it wrong. Dan's research — from using AI to identify racist property covenants buried in county deed records, to mapping obsolete regulations that waste thousands of hours of government time — shows what's possible when the technology is applied with rigor and purpose. If you’re curious about how AI can serve both justice and good governance, this one is well worth another listen.

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(00:00:00) Introduction

Russ Altman introduces guest Dan Ho, a professor of law, political science, and computer science at Stanford University.

(00:02:19) Path into Legal AI

How Ho’s background shaped his interest in law, and technology.

(00:03:35) What Lawyers Do

What makes law a complex domain for AI.

(00:05:28) Legal Hallucinations

When AI  performs well and when it fails. 

(00:07:52) Searching Legal Records in California

How AI can help identify outdated, harmful, or legally important material.

(00:10:28) Scaling Redaction

How a model accelerated a process that overwhelmed county recorder offices.

(00:13:04) Legal Reform at Scale

How AI has supported legal reform by scanning massive bodies of law.

(00:15:02) STARA & The City of San Francisco

How AI was used to go through San Francisco’s code and clean up reporting.

(00:20:53) Outdated Obligations

How “regulatory sludge” takes the time & resources of the public service

(00:25:02) Open vs. Closed AI

The differences and associated risks of the different AI systems.

(00:30:58) Legal Chatbots

Why legal chatbots are promising but risky.

(00:33:42) Conclusion

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