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The Dr. Layne Norton Podcast · July 20 · 2 hr 1 min

Sports Nutrition & Performance with Dr. Mike Ormsbee

In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Mike Ormsbee, Director of the Institute of Sports Science and Medicine at Florida State University. Mike is one of the sharpest, most pragmatic researchers in the field — a former hockey player turned leading expert on exercise, nutrition, fat metabolism, sleep, and performance. We had an absolute blast geeking out for nearly two hours. Mike and I share very similar backgrounds (athletes who got into lifting and science for selfish reasons — getting jacked and lean), and it shows in how practical and grounded this conversation is. What we covered: • Mike’s journey from competitive ice hockey and early bodybuilding days to becoming a professor and running one of the top sports nutrition labs in the country • Resistance training vs. endurance exercise for fat metabolism (what the cellular data actually shows) • Mechanisms vs. real-world outcomes in fat loss • Pre-sleep nutrition: Does eating protein (or anything) before bed ruin fat loss, sleep, or recovery? • Interpreting science, research biases, publication issues, and why “what works for you” still matters We also had some friendly disagreement on collagen, which I think you’ll really enjoy. If you want evidence-based, no-BS discussion on training, nutrition timing, supplements, and how to actually apply the science to real life (whether you’re an athlete or just trying to stay healthy and jacked), this one is for you. #DrLayneNorton #MikeOrmsbee #SportsNutrition #ResistanceTraining #PreSleepProtein #Collagen #FatMetabolism #EvidenceBasedFitness SPONSORS • Outwork Nutrition - Evidence-Based Supplements to Support Your Hard Work: https://outworknutrition.com • Workout Builder – Customized training programs for all experience levels: https://biolayne.com/workout-builder LAYNE'S COMPANIES Carbon Diet Coach: https://joincarbon.com/podcast Outwork Nutrition: https://outworknutrition.com REPS Research Review: https://biolayne.com/reps Workout Builder: https://biolayne.com/workout-builder Team Biolayne: https://biolayne.com/online-coaching Physique Coaching Academy: https://physiquecoachingacademy.com FOLLOW LAYNE http://www.facebook.com/laynenorton http://www.twitter.com/biolayne http://www.instagram.com/biolayne TIMESTAMPS 0:00:00 - Intro 0:02:47 - Mike's Background 0:06:12 - The Start of Resistance Training Research 0:10:38 - Fat Metabolism 0:17:35 - Lipolysis vs Fat Loss 0:21:40 - Outwork Nutrition 0:23:08 - Research Considerations 0:28:45 - Hard Training Above All 0:33:16 - Risk Probabilities 0:35:10 - Sleep Nutrition Research 0:44:06 - Workout Builder 0:45:02 - Sleep Nutrition Research Cont. 0:45:50 - Practical Takaways 0:47:30 - Performance Outcomes 0:49:07 - Study Design Evolution 0:52:06 - Wearables 0:56:51 - Missing Sleep and Sleep Schedules 1:07:31 - Training or Competing at Night 1:11:11 - Nutrient Timing 1:18:01 - Carbs and Exercise Performance 1:31:27 - Collagen 1:42:47 - Research Discussion 1:49:46 - Final Question 1:59:47 - Outro SHOW NOTES https://biolayne.com/podcasts/dr-layne-norton-podcast/sports-nutrition-performance-with-mike-ormsbee-episode-32

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In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Mike Ormsbee, Director of the Institute of Sports Science and Medicine at Florida State University. Mike is one of the sharpest, most pragmatic researchers in the field — a former hockey player turned leading expert on exercise, nutrition, fat metabolism, sleep, and performance.

We had an absolute blast geeking out for nearly two hours. Mike and I share very similar backgrounds (athletes who got into lifting and science for selfish reasons — getting jacked and lean), and it shows in how practical and grounded this conversation is.

What we covered:

• Mike’s journey from competitive ice hockey and early bodybuilding days to becoming a professor and running one of the top sports nutrition labs in the country

• Resistance training vs. endurance exercise for fat metabolism (what the cellular data actually shows)

• Mechanisms vs. real-world outcomes in fat loss

• Pre-sleep nutrition: Does eating protein (or anything) before bed ruin fat loss, sleep, or recovery?

• Interpreting science, research biases, publication issues, and why “what works for you” still matters

We also had some friendly disagreement on collagen, which I think you’ll really enjoy.

If you want evidence-based, no-BS discussion on training, nutrition timing, supplements, and how to actually apply the science to real life (whether you’re an athlete or just trying to stay healthy and jacked), this one is for you.

#DrLayneNorton #MikeOrmsbee #SportsNutrition #ResistanceTraining #PreSleepProtein #Collagen #FatMetabolism #EvidenceBasedFitness

SPONSORS

• Outwork Nutrition - Evidence-Based Supplements to Support Your Hard Work: https://outworknutrition.com

• Workout Builder – Customized training programs for all experience levels: https://biolayne.com/workout-builder

LAYNE'S COMPANIES

Carbon Diet Coach: https://joincarbon.com/podcast

Outwork Nutrition: https://outworknutrition.com

REPS Research Review: https://biolayne.com/reps

Workout Builder: https://biolayne.com/workout-builder

Team Biolayne: https://biolayne.com/online-coaching

Physique Coaching Academy: https://physiquecoachingacademy.com

FOLLOW LAYNE

http://www.facebook.com/laynenorton

http://www.twitter.com/biolayne

http://www.instagram.com/biolayne

TIMESTAMPS

0:00:00 - Intro

0:02:47 - Mike's Background

0:06:12 - The Start of Resistance Training Research

0:10:38 - Fat Metabolism

0:17:35 - Lipolysis vs Fat Loss

0:21:40 - Outwork Nutrition

0:23:08 - Research Considerations

0:28:45 - Hard Training Above All

0:33:16 - Risk Probabilities

0:35:10 - Sleep Nutrition Research

0:44:06 - Workout Builder

0:45:02 - Sleep Nutrition Research Cont.

0:45:50 - Practical Takaways

0:47:30 - Performance Outcomes

0:49:07 - Study Design Evolution

0:52:06 - Wearables

0:56:51 - Missing Sleep and Sleep Schedules

1:07:31 - Training or Competing at Night

1:11:11 - Nutrient Timing

1:18:01 - Carbs and Exercise Performance

1:31:27 - Collagen

1:42:47 - Research Discussion

1:49:46 - Final Question

1:59:47 - Outro

SHOW NOTES

https://biolayne.com/podcasts/dr-layne-norton-podcast/sports-nutrition-performance-with-mike-ormsbee-episode-32

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