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What do we want from a web browser? (Friends)
Sep 15, 2023 · 1 hr 44 min · 100.6 MB
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A hoy hoy! Our old friend Nick Nisi does his best to bring up TypeScript, Vim & Tmux as many times as possible while we discuss a new batch of web browsers, justify why we like the ones we do & try to figure out what it’d take to disrupt the status quo of Big Browser.
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Featuring:
- Nick Nisi – Website, GitHub, Bluesky, Mastodon, X
- Jerod Santo – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
- Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
Show Notes:
- Digging through Nick Nisi’s tool box (JS Party #278)
- Google gets its way, bakes a user-tracking ad platform directly into Chrome | Ars Technica
- Arc from The Browser Company
- Sizzy — The browser for web developers
- Polypane, The browser for ambitious web developers
- Orion Browser
- Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser
- The Ladybird browser project
- Horse Browser
- Web Browser Quiche on the App Store
- Nyxt browser: The hacker’s browser
- Opera browser goes free with version 5.0 launch • The Register
- Nick’s vim + tmux video
- Vim with Me playlist
- Our viral short on Instagram Reels
- Gabe Kangas on Mastodon
- Rich Harris on JS Party
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- 0:00Let's talk!
- 0:382x Clark Kent glasses
- 1:12Back to the Future II
- 2:28"Gimme a Pepsi Free"
- 3:26Crispin Glover follow-up
- 4:17Start here if you just want browser talk
- 4:21Hold on a second...
- 5:02He's back!
- 6:22Browser 101
- 6:45Becoming crotchety
- 7:51Safari is not the best browser
- 8:32Chrome v Firefox
- 9:55horse_js is dead
- 10:18The TypeScript "Exodus"
- 12:19New breed of browsers
- 13:39All praise Safari
- 17:46Safari's market share
- 19:16Browser profiles
- 21:47Firefox converters
- 22:45Too many extentions
- 23:49It's not what Apple wants
- 25:41Safari incompatabilities
- 28:02No Chrome since '16
- 28:19Ad trackers in browsers
- 30:12Your data & 3rd parties
- 31:00Tight cloud integration
- 33:21Ads on Smart TVs
- 34:36NVIDIA SHIELD
- 35:33DVD upscaling
- 37:11Sponsor: Statsig
- 40:55A FREE TV?!
- 41:52Browser business models
- 43:03Paywalls
- 45:28Polypane & Sizzy
- 49:16Confessions of Nick Nisi
- 51:26Opera history trivia!
- 53:38A browser for dev is a good idea
- 53:58We own the ++?
- 55:42Mark HackerNoon as spam
- 57:30How Zed does it
- 58:16Warp vs vim & tmux
- 58:57Nick's vim + tmux vid
- 1:03:29Viral short
- 1:05:33More "Vim with me"!
- 1:07:01What do we want?
- 1:09:07Arc tabs
- 1:10:57Orion
- 1:11:19Vivaldi
- 1:11:56Ladybird
- 1:13:22Gabe Kangas on Mastodon
- 1:15:54It takes talent
- 1:16:43How long will browsers be relevant?
- 1:18:33Why do we care?
- 1:20:34Nyxt & Quiche
- 1:22:04Power features
- 1:23:43Should we just take it?
- 1:24:07Momentum is a fickle thing
- 1:25:00We don't know
- 1:26:21The Arc club
- 1:27:47Why Adam likes newer Macs
- 1:29:31What is your tab layout?
- 1:33:00Worryied about crotchety Adam
- 1:33:44No forks of TypeScript
- 1:34:02Speaking of the perfect tweet
- 1:34:50Kids read everything
- 1:35:26A Linux-like take on browser
- 1:37:01Apple Keynote
- 1:39:46When to upgrade your iPhone
- 1:40:18No more lightning
- 1:40:45Sideloading required?
- 1:41:34Where to find Nick
- 1:43:35Coming up next (Changelog++!)