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Spec-driven development with Kiro (Interview)
Oct 15, 2025 · 1 hr 25 min · 82.1 MB
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We’re joined by Deepak Singh from the Kiro team. Kiro is AWS’s attempt at building an AI coding environment to take you from prototype to production. It does that by bringing structure to your agentic workflow with spec-driven development. Their aim: the flow of AI coding, leveled up with mature engineering practices.
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- 0:00This week on The Changelog
- 1:10Sponsor: CodeRabbit
- 2:16Start the show!
- 9:43The idea resonates
- 13:07How Kiro looks/works
- 18:22Sponsor: Outshift by Cisco
- 19:39Don't get in the agent's way
- 25:40Where should the agent live
- 29:51Which model to use?
- 34:30Model cost perspective
- 38:40AWS teams using Kiro
- 43:40Full ecosystem plans?
- 50:34Hooks are interesting
- 52:24Compaction
- 55:16Let's talk stack
- 1:00:47Can current models get us there?
- 1:05:06Let's talk pricing
- 1:11:54Still figuring it out
- 1:13:58The looming tollbooth
- 1:22:52Wrapping up
- 1:23:37Closing thoughts