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Securing ecommerce: "It's complicated" (Interview)
Mar 20, 2025 · 1 hr 5 min · 62.7 MB
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Ilya Grigorik and his team at Shopify has been hard at work securing ecommerce checkouts from sophisticated news attacks (such as digital skimming) and he’s here to share all the technical intricacies and far-reaching implications of this work.
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- Powering Shopify’s High-Performance, PCI DSS v4 Compliant Checkout with Sandboxing
- PCI Compliance: What Is It and Everything Retailers Need to Know
- PCIv4: SRI gaps and opportunities - Google Docs
- Shopify/remote-dom
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- 0:00Welcome to The Changelog
- 1:03Sponsor: Retool
- 4:04Welcoming Ilya back
- 5:43Ilya's career path
- 10:19Core Web Vitals
- 13:36Unpacking PCI
- 17:15PCI shortcomings
- 18:35PCI v4
- 20:281st-party scripts
- 21:183rd-party scripts
- 23:32Sounds not possible
- 24:30Sponsor: Augment Code
- 27:39Shopify's approach
- 32:22Compromises
- 36:32A long journey
- 38:10Is compliance enough?
- 42:08Improving the web platform
- 46:37CSP / SRI reporting details
- 51:28Shopify's SRI setup
- 54:01Key takeaways
- 57:04AI shopping agents
- 58:53Human out of the loop?
- 1:01:00Wrapping up
- 1:03:05Closing thoughts