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Engineering management (for the rest of us) (Interview)
May 17, 2023 · 1 hr 21 min · 78.4 MB
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This week Sarah Drasner joins us to talk about her book Engineering Management for the Rest of Us and her experience leading engineering at Zillow, Microsoft, Netlify, and now Google.
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Featuring:
- Sarah Drasner – Website, GitHub, X
- Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
- Jerod Santo – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
Show Notes:
- sarahdrasnerdesign.com
- Sarah Drasner on CSS Tricks
- Book: Engineering Management for the Rest of Us
- The Peter principle
- Accelerate: Building and Scaling High Performing Technology Organizations
- Dr. Nicole Forsgren
- The Engineer/Manager Pendulum
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- 0:00This week on The Changelog
- 1:09Sponsor: DevCycle
- 3:59Start the show!
- 7:22The OG post on CSS Tricks
- 11:55Sarah's straight ine to here
- 14:09The nerd part, lol
- 20:13Challenging parts of writing this book
- 24:28Trust is built in drops
- 26:07Sponsor: Sentry
- 30:16Values exercise
- 32:07How do you give trust?
- 34:22We have ways less data now
- 40:52How do you IRL?
- 42:54What about bottom up change?
- 49:44Differeent tools for different scenarios
- 54:43Sponsor: Rocky Linux
- 57:16Doing 1:1s
- 59:57Can't not and rules to follow
- 1:01:21Solving techincal problems
- 1:02:45Hands on in the weeds?
- 1:04:16Things to avoid. Don't do this.
- 1:07:22Dealing with self
- 1:10:59When to say "no"
- 1:16:29Sarah makes us blush!
- 1:19:43Up next!