
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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May 23, 2025 · 1 hr 8 min · 65.6 MB
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We sit down with Scott Hanselman at Microsoft Build 2025 to discuss open sourcing all the things, cool stuff Windows can do, where we want (and don’t want) AI to fit into our lives, building arcade cabinets, and so much more.
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- Scott Hanselman.com
- microsoft/winget-cli
- Cephable
- Pieces for Developers
- Arcade | Scott Hanselman’s Blog
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- 0:00Let's talk!
- 0:38Sponsor: Retool
- 3:23Keystrokes & Friends
- 8:34On robot jobs
- 10:56Booking flights?
- 12:52Executive Agents
- 15:17The adoption spectrum
- 18:02Hanselman International
- 19:58Zhuzh it up!
- 21:54Microsoft lay-offs
- 23:03Startup within the machine
- 24:01Scott's career arc
- 25:19Open source? Yes, and
- 25:46WSL & Copilot extension
- 27:14The VS Code forks
- 28:17Open source everything
- 29:02Sponsor: Depot
- 31:22What's left to open source?
- 31:42Do you like Windows?
- 33:41Windows killed my pappy!
- 35:25Touring Windows
- 38:43CPU, GPU, NPU
- 45:54Cephable
- 47:18Pieces.app
- 48:39Sponsor: Outshift by Cisco
- 49:42Do it at the network layer
- 52:43Home Assistant
- 53:57Dev mode howto plz
- 54:48Blood sugar to CLI prompt
- 56:34Maintaining excitement
- 58:55What's next for Scott
- 1:02:27Making arcades
- 1:04:34Arcade together?!
- 1:06:46Bye, friends
- 1:07:01Closing thoughts