
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the developer cloud (Interview)
Dec 12, 2024 · 1 hr 35 min · 91.9 MB
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Kurt Mackey is back for a deep dive into what it takes to build the developer cloud. Kurt joins Adam to discuss the alliance between companies and cloud, something Kurt refers to as the “Rebel Alliance,” cloud complexity vs usability, Fly’s future with Postgres and why they’ve waited, thoughts on Neon and Supabase (Kurt shares a hot take), and our CDN saga and plan to build a simple CDN on Fly called Pipely (still a Pipedream).
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- Founders Talk #80
- Tigris
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- Supabase
- Neon
- Retool
- DHH shade on Fly
- Percona
- vantage.sh/cloud-cost-report
- Pipedream
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- 0:00This week on The Changelog
- 1:05Sponsor: Sentry
- 3:13Start the show!
- 3:33NO limits
- 5:29Clouds doing similar things
- 6:27DHH threw shade at Fly
- 15:07Blazing fast SSDs
- 19:12Hot take!!
- 20:32Rebel Alliance
- 24:50Back to Tigris
- 28:00Sponsor: Coder
- 30:24Is it the Rebellion?
- 32:43We're building managed Postgres
- 35:53The Cloud business
- 41:35Tigris on Fly
- 45:23No more Alliance?
- 46:21We asked Render to do Postgres for us
- 50:13Sponsor: Eight Sleep
- 52:42Sponsor: Wix Studio
- 53:37Why punt on managed Postgres?
- 57:15BTS on Percona
- 59:44Exotic DB services
- 1:01:26Tigris'ing Neon on Fly
- 1:02:17Our CDN saga
- 1:11:03CDN on Fly
- 1:16:48How's your life?
- 1:20:10Divorce happened
- 1:22:19I build Lego and watch TV
- 1:23:11What's on your TV?
- 1:25:05Ray Porter and Bobiverse
- 1:28:05Fly's future?
- 1:31:25That's it
- 1:31:50Closing thoughts and stuff