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Building for application developers (Interview)
Feb 27, 2025 · 1 hr 52 min · 162.2 MB
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Anurag Goel, Founder/CEO of Render, joins Adam to discuss what they’re doing to solve cloud problems for application developers. They just raised $80M they don’t even need and they’re poised to solve boring problems like object storage, and less boring things like building for the AI era.
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- $80M to reimagine the cloud for the AI era
- Changelog Interviews #621: Building the developer cloud with Kurt Mackey (CEO of Fly)
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- 0:00This week on The Changelog
- 1:12Sponsor: Retool
- 3:58Start the show!
- 11:15Imminent threat, but not facing Goliath
- 18:36Two pizza teams
- 23:08Legacy cloud vs complex cloud
- 27:18Being in it together
- 30:20Focused on solving problems and growing revenue
- 32:35Sponsor: Sentry
- 34:39Reinventing your job over and over
- 44:32Playing with AI via a gaming PC
- 53:16Spending $20M on GPUs
- 54:36Building a retry world
- 58:58Friendly neighborhood CEO
- 1:00:19Did you need the $80M?
- 1:15:54Sponsor: Temporal
- 1:17:58Where do you go from here?
- 1:23:01Examining the Render org chart
- 1:31:59How deep shoudl we go?
- 1:38:00Enjoying that series C legitimacy
- 1:42:01The better new heroku?
- 1:44:32The cloud is BIG and there's lots of room
- 1:47:09Giving application developers what they want
- 1:48:44Wrapping up
- 1:49:35Closing thoughts and stuff
- 1:51:40++ Teaser