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All the places Swift will go (Interview)
Nov 16, 2023 · 53 min · 51.7 MB
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This week we’re talking about Swift with Ben Cohen, the Swift Team Manager at Apple. We caught up with Ben while at KubeCon last week. Ben takes us into the world of Swift, from Apple Native apps on iOS and macOS, to the Swift Server Workgroup for developing and deploying server side applications, to the Swift extension for VS Code, Swift as a safe C/C++ successor language, Swift on Linux and Windows, and of course what The Browser Company’s Arc browser is doing to bring Arc to Windows.
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Show Notes:
- Swift is available for macOS, Windows, and Linux
- The Browser Company (who are bringing their Arc browser, written in Swift, to Windows) recently open sourced their bindings for WinRT
- The Swift on Server Working Group
- Swift extension for VS Code (if Xcode isn’t your thing)
- NSA recently published a report urging people to move off of C and C++:
- John McCall (who chairs the Language Steering Group) at CppNow recently
- The goals for Swift 6
- Miguel de Icaza proposing using Swift in the Godot game engine
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- 0:00This week on The Changelog
- 1:11Sponsor: Statsig
- 4:36Start the show!
- 7:48Realizing the vision
- 9:46Swift as a language
- 14:39Swift on Windows and Linux
- 20:12Migrating to Swift
- 22:29Swift on Windows
- 26:27Sponsor: Neon
- 31:48Swift on Android and elsewhere?
- 35:06Swift vs Rust
- 37:29ABI stability
- 42:59Swift and memory management
- 45:16Swift ergonomics
- 49:58Swift and The Godot Engine?
- 51:58Coming up!