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Agent, take the wheel (Interview)
Jul 2, 2025 · 1 hr 53 min · 109.6 MB
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Thorsten Ball returned to Sourcegraph to work on Amp because he believes being able to talk to an alien intelligence that edits your code changes everything. On this episode, Thorsten joins us to discuss exactly how coding agents work, recent advancements in AI tooling, Amp’s uniqueness in a sea of competitors, the divide between believers and skeptics, and more.
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- Thorsten Ball – Website, GitHub, X
- Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
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- 0:00This week on The Changelog
- 1:13Sponsor: Depot
- 3:27Start the show!
- 3:46How to build an agent
- 9:53You felt the AGI?
- 13:18Tool calling
- 17:06A basic algorithm
- 22:24Amp's angle
- 31:45The ampcode.com copy
- 44:06Sponsor: Retool
- 46:02Believers and skeptics
- 59:03The horse carriage
- 1:05:39The Vim identity
- 1:10:47Still well positioned
- 1:13:12Use AI to think better
- 1:14:43To the Vim folks
- 1:20:22Paint by numbers programming
- 1:33:51Open source impact
- 1:48:56An optimistic prediction
- 1:50:48Wrapping up
- 1:52:08Closing thoughts