
Tanya Janca - Secure Vibe Coding
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If AI writes all the code and the developer barely reads it, where does AppSec fit? Tanya Janca returns to define vibe coding and explain why models trained on insecure public code do not understand secure design by default. She and the hosts build a practical secure-vibe-coding framework: explicit requirements, human-led threat modeling, reusable security prompts, iterative review, SAST, and independent testing. Tanya shares hard-earned examples of Claude removing error handling, models confidently reviewing their own insecure output, and developers accepting enormous finding backlogs for code they did not enjoy writing. The discussion also examines whether security tooling will consolidate into AI platforms, how AppSec must be reimagined, and why continuous, embedded guidance matters more than occasional training. Tanya closes by introducing her DevSecStation podcast.
Connect with Tanya Janca:
→ Tanya Janca on LinkedIn
→ SecureMyVibe
→ DevSecStation
Mentioned in this episode:
→ SecureMyVibe
→ OWASP Top 10
→ Burp Suite
→ OWASP ZAP
→ DevSecStation
→ Tanya Janca (SheHacksPurple)
→ ChatGPT
→ Stack Overflow
→ The Security Table podcast
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Chapters:
00:00 Tanya Janca returns
02:10 What vibe coding actually means
04:03 AI adoption and how developers prompt
05:57 Treating AI like an intern
07:28 Do AI systems need parental controls?
09:34 Security prompts for everyday development
11:47 Models, memory, and protecting sensitive data
14:11 What happens when Claude goes away?
16:02 The most dangerous vibe-coding misconception
18:06 Threat modeling before AI writes the code
22:48 Using AI throughout the development lifecycle
25:32 A reusable secure-prompt framework
29:09 Expose security assumptions and challenge flattery
32:30 Reviewing an AI-generated codebase
36:09 Will AI platforms absorb security tooling?
37:39 Five million findings for code nobody wrote
42:19 The remaining pieces of secure vibe coding
43:52 Reimagining AppSec
45:25 Continuous guidance beats occasional training
46:05 Introducing DevSecStation
47:12 Closing thoughts
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