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The 5Cs: Business, Climate, Leadership Done Differently · Saturday · 19 min

Hearts Only Have One Colour

Series: The Other Eye Episode: Hearts Only Have One Colour Indigenous elders are famously careful about who they share their knowledge with. So what made them trust a finance graduate from Boston? Ryan's answer isn't about anything he said. It's about how he showed up: curiosity with no attachment to the answer, humility, and a fire to serve something bigger than himself. He shares the lesson a teacher in Hawaii gave him every single day ("What do you want me to say? You already answered your own question.") and why most of the questions we ask in business aren't really questions at all. Then he names what he calls the unholy trinity of modern thinking: mechanization, reductionism and separability. It built the world we live in, from our computers to our hot showers. It also can't solve the problems it created. Ryan walks through the full picture of Two-Eyed Seeing and explains why chasing solutions one problem at a time keeps producing more problems. You can find Ryan here, here and here. Three things you'll take away: The question test: are you asking, or are you already answering? The three habits under most Western problem-solving, what they do well, and where they fall short Why getting to the root of a problem means you may not need a solution at all The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business. Becausing addressing business stewardship climate risk and leadership together is in the highest good for all. Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

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Series: The Other Eye Episode: Hearts Only Have One Colour

Indigenous elders are famously careful about who they share their knowledge with. So what made them trust a finance graduate from Boston?

Ryan's answer isn't about anything he said. It's about how he showed up: curiosity with no attachment to the answer, humility, and a fire to serve something bigger than himself. He shares the lesson a teacher in Hawaii gave him every single day ("What do you want me to say? You already answered your own question.") and why most of the questions we ask in business aren't really questions at all.

Then he names what he calls the unholy trinity of modern thinking: mechanization, reductionism and separability. It built the world we live in, from our computers to our hot showers. It also can't solve the problems it created. Ryan walks through the full picture of Two-Eyed Seeing and explains why chasing solutions one problem at a time keeps producing more problems. You can find Ryan here, here and here.

Three things you'll take away:

  • The question test: are you asking, or are you already answering?
  • The three habits under most Western problem-solving, what they do well, and where they fall short
  • Why getting to the root of a problem means you may not need a solution at all

The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business. Becausing addressing business stewardship climate risk and leadership together is in the highest good for all.

Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

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