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Paul Eaton shares about transformative inclusion on episode 330 of the Teaching in Higher Ed podcast.
Quotes from the episode

There are times where you can be more real with students.
-Paul Eaton
It is hard to get people to think outside of just individual behaviors.
-Paul Eaton
We spend way too much time focusing on the individual acts and not enough time focusing on the system. We have got to fix the system and that is much harder work.
-Paul Eaton
Resources Mentioned
Known and Strange Things, by Teju Cole
penguinrandomhouse.comEpisode 228: How to Create Engaging Online Classes with Laura Gibbs
teachinginhighered.comHow to Be an Antiracist, by Ibram X. Kendi
bookshop.org