Why Python developers just use Postgres with Dawn Wages

When I found out that Django developer and Python Software Foundation chair Dawn Wages has a chapter in her upcoming Domain-Driven Django book called “Just Use Postgres”, I knew we had to get her on the show. In this episode of Talking Postgres with Claire Giordano, Dawn breaks down why so many Python and Django developers have such an affinity for Postgres. And we dive into the Djangonaut Space mentoring program (where contributors launch), learn why “free as in puppies” beats “free as in cake” for open source vibes, and dig into why Python is the second-best language for everything. Links mentioned in this episode: Project page: psycopg Documentation: Psycopg 3 – PostgreSQL database adapter for Python Project page: PostgreSQL open source project Git repo: code for PostgreSQL.org website Conference: PyCon US 2025, happening May 14-22 in Pittsburgh Conference: PGConf.dev 2025 Schedule, happening May 13-16 in Montreal Canada Conference: Prague PostgreSQL Developer Day 2025 (P2D2) Schedule, which took place Jan 28-29 Wikipedia page: Model-view-controller software design pattern Book: Professional ASP.NET MVC 1.0, affectionately called “the four heads book” Podcast episode: Working in Public with Simon Willison & Marco Slot Blog: Simon Willison’s TILs, aka Things I’ve learned Simon Willison’s Weblog: Here’s how I use LLMs to help me write code Simon Willison’s Weblog: How I make annotated presentations Survey: Python Developers Survey 2023 Results Python Docs: What’s new in Python 3.14 Mentorship program: Djangonaut Space Mentorship program: Media & Talks about Djangonaut Space Podcast episode: Why mentor Postgres developers with Robert Haas Slides: PGConf EU 2024 talk by Claire Giordano about Contributions to Postgres, including maps showing how global the Postgres project is Video of POSETTE 2024 talk by Paolo Melchiorre: Semantic search with Django, PostgreSQL, & pgvector Video of Citus Con 2023 talk: Maps with Django (and PostGIS), by Paolo Melchiorre Video of Citus Con 2022 talk: Django with PostgreSQL superpowers, by Paolo Melchiorre Conference: DjangoCon Africa 2025, happening August 11-15 in Tanzania Calendar invite: LIVE recording of Ep26 of Talking Postgres to happen on Wed Apr 02, 2025 with guest Bruce Momjian, to talk about Open Source Leadership