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SecurityCafé · Sep 25, 2025 · 25 min

CyberSec NL Special #2 with Fleur van Leusden

CyberSecurity Café Podcast – CyberSec NL Special In this special live edition of the SecurityCafé Podcast, recorded at Cybersec Netherlands, host Menno van der Horst is joined by Fleur van Leusden (CISO by day, podcaster by night) and regular guest & storyteller Quint Ketting. 🔥 Together, they dive into two urgent themes shaping the cybersecurity community: Sovereignty labelling – what does it mean for organizations, vendors, and Europe’s digital future? Less Hype Culture, More Fundamental Collaboration – why our industry needs to move beyond buzzwords and towards real, sustainable partnerships. This is not just another panel talk. It’s a candid conversation from inside the community where we reflect on how we can break silos, challenge commercial noise, and strengthen collaboration as our strongest firewall. 👉 Whether you’re a CISO, practitioner, or part of the wider security ecosystem, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss. 🔗 Listen now and join the discussion on building a more resilient cyber future.

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CyberSecurity Café Podcast – CyberSec NL Special

In this special live edition of the SecurityCafé Podcast, recorded at Cybersec Netherlands, host Menno van der Horst is joined by Fleur van Leusden (CISO by day, podcaster by night) and regular guest & storyteller Quint Ketting.

🔥 Together, they dive into two urgent themes shaping the cybersecurity community:

  • Sovereignty labelling – what does it mean for organizations, vendors, and Europe’s digital future?
  • Less Hype Culture, More Fundamental Collaboration – why our industry needs to move beyond buzzwords and towards real, sustainable partnerships.

This is not just another panel talk. It’s a candid conversation from inside the community where we reflect on how we can break silos, challenge commercial noise, and strengthen collaboration as our strongest firewall.

👉 Whether you’re a CISO, practitioner, or part of the wider security ecosystem, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss.

🔗 Listen now and join the discussion on building a more resilient cyber future.