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Second Nature

What Are We Going To Do Now?

Dec 10, 2025 · 28 min · Season 4 · Episode 1 · 27.7 MB
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For the past three seasons of the Second Nature, hundreds of you have shared climate actions you take in our own homes — composting, avoiding overconsumption, eating less meat. These practices give us a strong foundation for what comes next. 

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This season, we’re focusing our energy outward and making our efforts bigger by proxy with the help of community. This first episode serves as a mission statement for our season of community and connection, and we are extremely honored to have our first guest of the season be the one and only Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson.

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Be sure to listen to the end of the episode to hear our first-ever Community Classifieds — an audio bulletin board of community climate efforts to join around the world. Want to submit your Community Classified? We'd love to hear from you!


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Episode Credits

  • Listener contributions: Amandine Thomas,Braden Marazzo-Nowicki, Liv, Melissa Tan, Willa Stoutenbeek
  • Episode expert: Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson
  • Editing and engineering: Evan Goodchild‍
  • Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham
  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (02:32) - How our community is taking collective action
  • (05:45) - Transition to systemic thinking
  • (07:36) - Interview with Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson
  • (23:55) - Outro
  • (26:05) - Community Classifieds