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Run the Numbers · August 10 · 34 min

A CFO Explains Private Jets

On this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ and Ben trace corporate private jets from Sam Walton’s scrappy two-seater to Alex Karp’s $17 million jet bill. They break down when flying private actually makes business sense, how jets hit the balance sheet, the tax and accounting implications, what companies disclose to investors, and when executive travel crosses the line from productivity tool to corporate excess. — SPONSORS: Rillet is an AI-native ERP built for modern finance teams that want to replace NetSuite and close faster. With revenue recognition, close management, multi-entity support, and native Stripe and Salesforce integrations, Rillet helps scaling companies run their finance stack in one place. Hundreds of teams, including Windsurf and Mercor, use Rillet to make the zero-day close real. Book a demo at https://www.rillet.com/cj Maximor is an autonomous finance platform that runs order-to-cash, procure-to-pay, the close, cash management, and reporting on self-learning agents instead of a dozen disconnected tools. One PE-backed customer posts 98% of transactions directly to its ERP, with the remaining 2% routed to a human for review. You pay for outcomes, not seats. See it at https://www.maximor.ai/ Brex is an intelligent finance platform with AI-powered workflows that enforce expense policies at the point of sale, match receipts automatically, and reduce month-end close from weeks to hours. Thousands of companies, including Anthropic, Coinbase, and DoorDash, already run on Brex. Stop asking A-level finance talent to do B-level admin work. Learn more at https://www.brex.com/metrics Anrok is the sales tax platform that watches your exposure everywhere, automates compliance, and flags risk before it turns into a surprise back-tax letter from a state you've never set foot in. Companies like Anthropic, Notion, and Vanta already trust Anrok to stay ahead of rules that move faster than any spreadsheet can. Talk to a sales tax expert for a personalized exposure estimate at https://www.anrok.com/rtn RightRev is a revenue recognition platform built for the AI economy, helping finance support usage-based pricing, credits, hybrid contracts, seats plus consumption, and whatever commercial model comes next. It gives product teams the freedom to keep innovating without outdated revenue systems slowing them down. Learn how RightRev can help at https://rightrev.com/cj Pulley is an equity management platform that lets you issue options, model dilution, and complete 409As without your cap table turning into a spreadsheet disaster. Founders raising, hiring, and scaling use Pulley to keep equity clean and stay focused on building. Learn more or request a demo at https://pulley.com/mostlymetrics — LINKS: Mostly Talent: https://mostlymetrics.typeform.com/to/cLTxtAsN CJ: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cj-gustafson-13140948/ Mostly metrics: https://www.mostlymetrics.com — RELATED EPISODES: Jersey Mike’s IPO: The $4.2B Sandwich Machine https://youtu.be/ZL6AbqHI-0g — TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Fly Like a G6 0:29 $17M on jets: Alex Karp guess 1:16 Sam Walton starts it all 2:49 The yellow legal pads 4:37 Walmart Aviation founded (1968) 5:14 Piston to Bombardier jets 6:51 Walmart's modern jet fleet 8:13 Where it hides in SEC filings 9:25 SEC Reg S-K Item 402 13:37 Gulfport Energy scandal 14:42 Tyco: Kozlowski & Schwartz 16:57 When jets are actually useful 17:55 P&L vs. balance sheet treatment 18:40 PP&E and depreciation basics 19:04 Off-balance-sheet leases 19:28 The chartering loophole 19:54 "Uber Jet" fractional ownership 23:14 How activists hunt jet spend 23:36 Flight registries & tail numbers 24:13 Jack Sweeney vs. Elon Musk 25:00 What top companies spend 25:18 Walmart's fleet is #1 26:17 Charter vs. lease vs. own 29:02 Should we care? 3 angles 30:06 Angle 2: opportunity cost 30:59 Angle 3: company size 31:42 General Electric's shadow jet 32:50 Back to Alex Karp 34:02 Credits #RunTheNumbersPodcast #PrivateJets #CorporateFinance #ExecutivePerks #CFOLife

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On this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ and Ben trace corporate private jets from Sam Walton’s scrappy two-seater to Alex Karp’s $17 million jet bill. They break down when flying private actually makes business sense, how jets hit the balance sheet, the tax and accounting implications, what companies disclose to investors, and when executive travel crosses the line from productivity tool to corporate excess.

SPONSORS:

Rillet is an AI-native ERP built for modern finance teams that want to replace NetSuite and close faster. With revenue recognition, close management, multi-entity support, and native Stripe and Salesforce integrations, Rillet helps scaling companies run their finance stack in one place. Hundreds of teams, including Windsurf and Mercor, use Rillet to make the zero-day close real. Book a demo at https://www.rillet.com/cj

Maximor is an autonomous finance platform that runs order-to-cash, procure-to-pay, the close, cash management, and reporting on self-learning agents instead of a dozen disconnected tools. One PE-backed customer posts 98% of transactions directly to its ERP, with the remaining 2% routed to a human for review. You pay for outcomes, not seats. See it at https://www.maximor.ai/

Brex is an intelligent finance platform with AI-powered workflows that enforce expense policies at the point of sale, match receipts automatically, and reduce month-end close from weeks to hours. Thousands of companies, including Anthropic, Coinbase, and DoorDash, already run on Brex. Stop asking A-level finance talent to do B-level admin work. Learn more at https://www.brex.com/metrics

Anrok is the sales tax platform that watches your exposure everywhere, automates compliance, and flags risk before it turns into a surprise back-tax letter from a state you've never set foot in. Companies like Anthropic, Notion, and Vanta already trust Anrok to stay ahead of rules that move faster than any spreadsheet can. Talk to a sales tax expert for a personalized exposure estimate at https://www.anrok.com/rtn

RightRev is a revenue recognition platform built for the AI economy, helping finance support usage-based pricing, credits, hybrid contracts, seats plus consumption, and whatever commercial model comes next. It gives product teams the freedom to keep innovating without outdated revenue systems slowing them down. Learn how RightRev can help at https://rightrev.com/cj

Pulley is an equity management platform that lets you issue options, model dilution, and complete 409As without your cap table turning into a spreadsheet disaster. Founders raising, hiring, and scaling use Pulley to keep equity clean and stay focused on building. Learn more or request a demo at https://pulley.com/mostlymetrics

LINKS: 

Mostly Talent: https://mostlymetrics.typeform.com/to/cLTxtAsN

CJ: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cj-gustafson-13140948/

Mostly metrics: https://www.mostlymetrics.com

RELATED EPISODES:

Jersey Mike’s IPO: The $4.2B Sandwich Machine

https://youtu.be/ZL6AbqHI-0g

TIMESTAMPS:

0:00 Fly Like a G6

0:29 $17M on jets: Alex Karp guess

1:16 Sam Walton starts it all

2:49 The yellow legal pads

4:37 Walmart Aviation founded (1968)

5:14 Piston to Bombardier jets

6:51 Walmart's modern jet fleet

8:13 Where it hides in SEC filings

9:25 SEC Reg S-K Item 402

13:37 Gulfport Energy scandal

14:42 Tyco: Kozlowski & Schwartz

16:57 When jets are actually useful

17:55 P&L vs. balance sheet treatment

18:40 PP&E and depreciation basics

19:04 Off-balance-sheet leases

19:28 The chartering loophole

19:54 "Uber Jet" fractional ownership

23:14 How activists hunt jet spend

23:36 Flight registries & tail numbers

24:13 Jack Sweeney vs. Elon Musk

25:00 What top companies spend

25:18 Walmart's fleet is #1

26:17 Charter vs. lease vs. own

29:02 Should we care? 3 angles

30:06 Angle 2: opportunity cost

30:59 Angle 3: company size

31:42 General Electric's shadow jet

32:50 Back to Alex Karp

34:02 Credits

#RunTheNumbersPodcast #PrivateJets #CorporateFinance #ExecutivePerks #CFOLife

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