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REWORK

Titles, tenure, and paths don't matter

Aug 13, 2025 · 25 min · Season 2 · Episode 161 · 18.6 MBExplicit
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In this episode, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about why résumés, job titles, and career timelines take a back seat to what really matters when hiring — your actual work. They share how real-world examples cut through the noise, and open doors for people who may not have a traditional path.

Key Takeaways:

  • 00:00 – Episode highlights
  • 00:10 – Why final hiring decisions come down to a candidate’s actual work
  • 03:50 – The 37Better redesign project
  • 07:27 – How real project work reduces the guesswork of hiring
  • 14:29 – Why creating work outside your portfolio shows your range and creativity
  • 20:02 – Hiring when it hurts

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