How do I move past small talk into better conversation?

In this episode - we look at small talk, and how to progress from small talk into deep talk, or big talk, or however you want to call this. I've struggled with being on both the receiving end of small talk, and feeling like I have to get good at it multiple times throughout my life. I've never quite understood it. So I took some time to research what makes good small talk, as well as how we actually move away from it, into better, more fun, and more fulfilling conversations. Some articles that I reference: https://thequietlife.net/p/how-to-turn-small-talk-into-big-talk https://hbr.org/2021/03/remote-workers-need-small-talk-too