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PyTorch Developer Podcast · Feb 21, 2023 · 21 min

Unbacked SymInts

This podcast goes over the basics of unbacked SymInts. You might want to listen to this one before listening to https://pytorch-dev-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/zero-one-specialization Some questions we answer (h/t from Gregory Chanan): - Are unbacked symints only for export? Because otherwise I could just break / wait for the actual size. But maybe I can save some retracing / graph breaks perf if I have them too? So the correct statement is "primarily" for export? - Why am I looking into the broadcasting code at all? Naively, I would expect the export graph to be just a list of ATen ops strung together. Why do I recurse that far down? Why can't I annotate DONT_TRACE_ME_BRO? - How does 0/1 specialization fit into this? I understand we may want to 0/1 specialize in a dynamic shape regime in "eager" mode (is there a better term?), but that doesn't seem to matter for export? - So far we've mainly been talking about how to handle our own library code. There is a worry about pushing complicated constraints downstream, similar to torchscript. What constraints does this actually push?

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This podcast goes over the basics of unbacked SymInts. You might want to listen to this one before listening to https://pytorch-dev-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/zero-one-specialization Some questions we answer (h/t from Gregory Chanan):

 

- Are unbacked symints only for export?  Because otherwise I could just break / wait for the actual size.  But maybe I can save some retracing / graph breaks perf if I have them too?  So the correct statement is "primarily" for export?

- Why am I looking into the broadcasting code at all?  Naively, I would expect the export graph to be just a list of ATen ops strung together.  Why do I recurse that far down?  Why can't I annotate DONT_TRACE_ME_BRO?

- How does 0/1 specialization fit into this?  I understand we may want to 0/1 specialize in a dynamic shape regime in "eager" mode (is there a better term?), but that doesn't seem to matter for export?

- So far we've mainly been talking about how to handle our own library code.  There is a worry about pushing complicated constraints downstream, similar to torchscript.  What constraints does this actually push?

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