The State of Trade with China — ft. Alice Han

Scott and Ed open the show by discussing the aluminum and steel tariffs, Trump’s plan to close the carried interest loophole, and Elon Musk’s bid for OpenAI. Then Alice Han, China economist and director at Greenmantle, returns to the show to break down the potential impact of Trump’s tariffs on China’s economy. She explains how China’s weak consumer environment is driving down prices domestically, weighs in on what the “Sputnik moment” of DeepSeek means for China’s place in the AI race, and offers her take on the country’s relationship with Elon Musk. Finally, Alice shares why she believes we’re entering a period of heightened geopolitical instability.

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