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What happens when an AI hater starts building with AI agents? In this episode, we talk with software engineer Steve Klabnik, known for his work on the Rust programming language, about his journey from criticizing AI to experimenting with it firsthand. We explore Steve’s programming language Rue, largely built with the help of AI tools like Claude, and discuss what this means for software engineering and the future of coding in an AI-driven world.
Featuring:
- Steve Klabnik – LinkedIn
- Chris Benson – Website, LinkedIn, Bluesky, GitHub, X
- Daniel Whitenack – Website, GitHub, X
Links:
- The Rust Programming Language
- Rust
- Rue
- Daniel's RSA Meeting link for March 23, 2026
- Daniel's RSA Meeting link for March 24-25, 2026
Upcoming Events:
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LinkedIn
linkedin.comWebsite
chrisbenson.comLinkedIn
linkedin.comBluesky
bsky.appGitHub
github.comX
x.comWebsite
datadan.ioGitHub
github.comX
x.comThe Rust Programming Language
doc.rust-lang.orgRust
rust-lang.orgRue
rue-lang.devDaniel's RSA Meeting link for March 23, 2026
meetings.hubspot.comDaniel's RSA Meeting link for March 24-25, 2026
meetings.hubspot.comupcoming webinars here
practicalai.fm
- 0:00Welcome to Practical AI
- 2:23Introducing the guest
- 3:24Steve's Journey from AI Skeptic to Advocate
- 6:36Importance of Agreeing on Facts in AI Discourse
- 15:47Role of Software Engineers in AI Collaboration
- 22:53Future of Software Development with AI
- 28:03Productivity and AI's Impact on Work
- 29:13Developing Rue
- 32:32Learning from AI in Compiler Development
- 36:27Evolution of Rue and AI Integration
- 38:59Rue's Positioning in the Programming Language Landscape
- 43:21Future Aspirations for Rue and AI in Development
- 54:41Outro