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Pineland Underground

USAJFKSWCS, Ash Holzmann, Derek Riley, Jason Gambardella

The official podcast of the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School at Fort Liberty, North Carolina. SGM Riley and MAJ Holzmann embark on a journey to provide the best podcast in the military with bi-monthly relentless awesomeness. Real. Bold. Un-restricted.

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20 episodes
Updated Jul 8, 2025
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#94Jul 8, 2025 · 1 hr 3 min
From a Special Forces Team Room to the NFL| An Interview with Nate Boyer
The Pineland Underground Podcast team sits down with Mr. Nate Boyer in this episode. Nate is a "Renaissance Human" like many Army Special Operators who shares his unique call to serve as a Special Forces Green Beret and then his successful journey to become both a D1 college football player & eventually play in the NFL. ARSOF operators can do anything!
#93Jun 30, 2025 · 1 hr 1 min
Off the Radar | Interview with USASOC SOT-D NTC
The Pineland Underground Podcast team sits down with members of the Special Operations Training Detachment (SOT-D West) to discuss how ARSOF units train and prepare for Large Scale Combat Operations (LSCO) during National Training Center (NTC) rotations. The discussion centers on how ARSOF operators and units, alongside their conventional force partners, innovate & collaborate within a comprehensive training environment to address strategic threats. SOT-D West also has its own pretty cool podcas
#92Jun 24, 2025 · 58 min
The Making of a PSYOP Operator
In this episode, MAJ Jim Maicke and SFC Clayton Coash sit down with two newly minted PSYOP Soldiers. We learn about their backgrounds, experiences in selection and the qualification course and what it takes to be a PSYOP Operator!
#91Jun 18, 2025 · 50 min
The Art of Warrior Diplomacy | An Interview with AMBO Andrew Young
In this episode, LTC Pete Guerdan (Special Operations Recruiting Battalion Commander) and MAJ Jim Maicke speak with Ambassador Andrew Young about the vital role our ARSOF Operators play in U.S. Embassies and how they enhance our strategic partnerships around the globe.
#90Jun 9, 2025 · 54 min
The Making of a Civil Affairs Soldier | An Interview with a Newly Minted CA Officer and NCOs
This week, the team discusses all things Civil Affairs, to include what it takes to make a great Civil Affairs Operator!
#89May 27, 2025 · 1 hr 31 min
The Making of a Special Forces Operator | An Interview with a Newly Minted SF Officer & SF NCO
On this episode, we sit down with a recently graduated and qualified Special Forces officer and non commissioned officer. They will discuss their personal motivations to pursue a Special Forces career and their experiences during their time in Special Forces Assessment and Selection and the Special Forces Qualification Course.
#88May 19, 2025 · 45 min
Welcome to the Guerrilla Factory | An Interview with the Robin Sage Command Team
On this episode, we delve into the culminating exercise that is Robin Sage. This is the event all students must face in order to become a qualified operator. Here, students will be required to apply everything they have learned throughout their training to effectively work as a team in a simulated special operations mission.
#87May 15, 2025 · 41 min
Master the Fundamentals | Interview with the Small Unit Tactics (SUT) CMD Team
This week we sit down with the Small Unit Tactics Command Team to discuss how operators shoot, move and communicate and gain experience for real word operations.
#86May 15, 2025 · 25 min
Meet the Season 4 Team!
Meet the new Pineland Underground hosts. The crew will be discussing any and all things related to Army Special Operations this season!
#85Nov 4, 2024 · 1 hr 2 min
Down the Rabbit Hole | The History of PSYOP with Dr. Tracy
Did you know we can trace the Psychological Operations Regiment to a single person? Did you know PSYOP played a role in the Office of Strategic Services? They were there at the landings of Normandy, in the planning for Desert Storm, and remain a critical component to military victory in the modern age. Join us as we host Dr. Jared Tracy, the Army Special Operations Forces' Deputy Command Historian, as he dives deep with us on the nuances and facts of the PSYOP Regiment and its history.
#84Oct 14, 2024 · 55 min
Professionals Talk Logistics | Logistics and Special Operations
"Without sustainment, you're just camping with guns." -Lt. Col. Pete Van Howe Did you know it takes quite a lot to sustain an organization like the Special Warfare Center & School? Join us as we discuss sustainment for the organization, sustainment for Special Operations, and how logistics wins wars.
#82Sep 30, 2024 · 1 hr 8 min
The History of Special Forces; Origins, Misconceptions, and Facts | Dr. Sacquety returns!
Did you know the Special Forces Operation Detachment Alpha hasn't always had twelve people in it? Did you also know only 1% of the first official Special Forces organization was made up of members of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS)? The history of Special Forces is a tapestry, weaving together organizations like Merrill’s Marauders (or Unit Galahad), the Philippine resistance movements of WWII, the original PSYWAR School, and the Ranger Regiment's early days, as well as other organizati
#75Sep 16, 2024 · 55 min
Morale; Retention; Recruitment; Leadership | We speak with Author Corie Weathers
Corie Weathers is a licensed professional counselor, speaker, consultant, and author focusing her career for the last 20 years as a clinician specializing in marriage, military and first responders, the service culture, and its impact on families. We sat down with her to speak about the challenges of communication within military families and relationships, returning home after conflict, retention, recruitment, and more.
#83Sep 2, 2024 · 1 hr
What Does it Take to Win a War? | The History of the Civil Affairs Regiment
Did you know Civil Affairs Soldiers were on the beaches of Normandy and tasked with addressing the cattle killed from the combat operations so that disease outbreaks could be mitigated? Or that Civil Affairs prevented cholera outbreaks during the Korean War? Combat is only one aspect of conflict and war. We dive deep in this episode where we cover the history of Civil Affairs. The Civil Affairs Branch predates the Psychological Operations and Special Forces branches, and even predates the Arm
#81Aug 19, 2024 · 41 min
How to Frame and Answer SOF Problems through Professional Writing | Special Warfare Magazine's Future
Preserving and capturing the lessons learned from the Global War on Terror; what is keeping the newest generation of Army Special Operations Forces (SOF) up at night; how can we continue to develop professional military writing in Army SOF; how to we modernize such efforts? We tackle all of that and more in this episode with two great Special Operations practitioners and recent graduates of the National Defense University. Spread the word! We have two (the very first!) Harding Project Fellows w
#80Aug 5, 2024 · 1 hr 7 min
What Makes Warfare Irregular? | We speak with Mr./Lt. Col. Doug Livermore on Irregular Warfare
Did you know the entire Joint Force engages in Irregular Warfare? Often defined differently depending on the individual or organization you speak to, we have Doug Livermore on to help define and discuss Irregular Warfare, the nature of conflict, and how our named adversaries also apply it across the globe. Listen in to learn how Irregular Warfare is not only a job for Special Operations.
#79Jul 15, 2024 · 1 hr 29 min
Are You Tough Enough? | The JFK 50 Miler
Did you know the nation's oldest and largest continuously held ultramarathon was kicked off as a national challenge by President John F. Kennedy? On today's podcast, we are fortunate enough to have Mike Spinnler as our guest and SWCS's very own Command Sergeant Major, Cmd. Sgt. Maj. Strong. It is the only remaining 50-mile event of several held around the country as part of President John F. Kennedy’s push to bring the country back to physical fitness. After the Kennedy assassination, many of th
#78Jul 1, 2024 · 56 min
Money is a Weapon | Brig. Gen. Dudley—the Counter Threat Finance expert in the U.S. Army
Trailblazer does not begin to define Brigadier General Sara Dudley, who is truly undefinable. Finance officer by trade, Brig. Gen. Dudley is the Counter Threat Finance expert currently serving within the United States Army. From deployments in the Middle East to serving within the Special Operations Command, Brig. Gen. Dudley is a true testament to dedication to service, a true voice within the Department of Defense, and an absolute innovator.
#77Jun 10, 2024 · 57 min
The State of SWCS | A conversation with BG Beaurpere, CSM Strong, and CW5 Ostrander
It's not every day you get to interview your boss's boss's boss. We review the main mission of the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School, how the organization has continued to evolve and uphold standards through the past two years, and what is on the horizon.
#76May 27, 2024 · 52 min
All the Places You'll Go | The U.S. Embassy Special Operations Liaison Officer (SOLO)
Did you know Army Special Operations often deploy to U.S. Embassies across the globe? Did you know that some Special Operations personnel even move to those Embassies for years at a time to assist partner nations and coordinate Special Operations elements? Join us in a conversation with a U.S. Embassy-based Special Operations Liaison Officer (SOLO) as he discusses the SOLO program, and unique ways that Special Operations works with our partners. We discuss the importance of language training a

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